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Yesterday I got the opportunity to test a few things against a Forcefield Controller in the Arena.

As before, I was running Rage and Focused Accuracy. Both are slotted for ToHit using two HOs.

Unlike the results against FF Masterminds or Dominators in Recluse's Victory, my net to hit chance was not floored:

- Using LBE (full purple set) and most other attacks, net chance to hit sat at 20%.
- KO blow with it's inherent accuracy bonus sat at roughly 25%.

Further:
- The Controller's defense values while in PFF was slightly above 20%, due to Diminishing Returns.
- My ToHit, as reported by the Combat attribute monitor, was about 97% (though this would be against PvE targets, so I assume in PvP it should be 25% lower).
- My Global accuracy was 1.57 (i.e. +0.57 from set bonuses and Focused Accuracy).


The only way the numbers would match up is due to significant Elusivity. Without PFF but with all other shields and defense powers the Controller had 17% def, for which I had from 75%-95% net chance to hit depending on which power I used (KO blow again being the most accurate). The extra defense from having PFF on as well, +3%, can't account for that kind of drop in net chance to hit.

While I did not have any chance of taking him out, given that he had both Aid Self and Hibernate, the large difference in net to hit compared to the Masterminds and Dominators I've fought (where I've so far been floored) was very noticeable. Whether this is due to a higher effective "DR-cap" for defense for those two ATs compared to Controllers, or some other factor I'm not certain.

Does anyone know whether the patron power pool shield powers grant extra Elusivity? And if so, does it stack with what PFF grants?

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Must be a bug, cause the 70 % defense from PFF, will never just result in 3% def even with diminishing returns.
Even more so since dr dont really kick in big time at 17% def

Are Mids numbers wrong for PvP ?
It shows kick dealing 45 dmg in Pve and 258 damg in PvP.
I slotted kick and tested it in RV against a longbow minion...
70 damg fully slotted.....

Is mids wrong or is it a bug in game?
Considering flurry deals insane damg with the new animation time formula, 70 damg for an 2 sec animatin time attack seems to be way too low, thats 35 damg unslotted......

Does anyone know if veat confront give - range in PvP ?
Mids doesnt show it so i am not sure.

I got 2 builds a fort and a nw.

Which one would be better ?

The nw:

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1,401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

[u]Click this DataLink to open the build![u]

Level 50 Natural Arachnos Widow
Primary Power Set: Night Widow Training
Secondary Power Set: Widow Teamwork
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Mental Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Combat Training: Defensive -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(7), LkGmblr-Def(9), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(9)
Level 2: Strike -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Mako-Dam%(13), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(13), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 4: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(15), RedFtn-EndRdx(17), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(19), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 8: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(21), RechRdx-I(21)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(25), Heal-I(25)
Level 16: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(27), Zephyr-ResKB(27), DefBuff-I(29)
Level 18: Slash -- Hectmb-Dam%(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(29), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(31), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 20: Tactical Training: Leadership -- GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(33), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(33), GSFC-ToHit(34), GSFC-Build%(34), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(34)
Level 22: Mask Presence -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(36), RedFtn-EndRdx(36), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(36), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(37), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Foresight -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(37), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(39)
Level 26: Eviscerate -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Oblit-%Dam(39), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(40), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(40), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 28: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(40), P'Shift-EndMod(42), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(42)
Level 30: Mind Link -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(42), HO:Membr(43)
Level 32: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 35: Aid Other -- Heal-I(A)
Level 38: Elude -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(45), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 41: Spirit Shark -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(43), ExStrk-Dam%(46), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Apoc-Dam%(46), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Aid Self -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg(50), IntRdx-I(50)
Level 47: Confront -- Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(A), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(48), Zinger-Taunt/Rng(48)
Level 49: Mental Training -- Run-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Conditioning
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Other nw:

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1,401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

[u]Click this DataLink to open the build![u]

Level 50 Natural Arachnos Widow
Primary Power Set: Night Widow Training
Secondary Power Set: Widow Teamwork
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Mental Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Combat Training: Defensive -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(7), LkGmblr-Def(9), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(9)
Level 2: Strike -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Mako-Dam%(13), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(13), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 4: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(15), RedFtn-EndRdx(17), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(19), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(21)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(21), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(23), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Numna-Heal/Rchg(25), Numna-Heal(27), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(27)
Level 16: Aid Other -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Slash -- Hectmb-Dam%(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(29), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(31), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 20: Tactical Training: Leadership -- GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(33), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(33), GSFC-ToHit(34), GSFC-Build%(34), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(34)
Level 22: Mask Presence -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(36), RedFtn-EndRdx(36), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(36), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(37), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Foresight -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(37), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(39)
Level 26: Kick -- Mako-Dam%(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Mako-Acc/Dmg(39), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(40), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 28: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(A), P'Shift-EndMod(29), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(45)
Level 30: Mind Link -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(42), HO:Membr(43)
Level 32: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 35: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(40), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(48), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 38: Elude -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(42), HO:Membr(45), EndMod-I(45)
Level 41: Spirit Shark -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(43), ExStrk-Dam%(46), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Apoc-Dam%(46), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Aid Self -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg(50), IntRdx-I(50)
Level 47: Smoke Grenade -- Acc-I(A)
Level 49: Mental Training -- Run-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Conditioning
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The fort :

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1,401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

[u]Click this DataLink to open the build![u]

Level 50 Natural Arachnos Widow
Primary Power Set: Fortunata Training
Secondary Power Set: Fortunata Teamwork
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Mental Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(3), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Combat Training: Defensive -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(7), LkGmblr-Def(9), Ksmt-ToHit+(9)
Level 2: Combat Training: Offensive -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(11)
Level 4: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(11), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(13), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(13), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(15), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 8: Telekinetic Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(17), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(19), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21)
Level 10: Subdue -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(23), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25)
Level 12: Aim -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(29), Heal-I(29)
Level 16: Indomitable Will -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 18: Dominate -- Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(31), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(31), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Apoc-Dam%(33)
Level 20: Tactical Training: Leadership -- GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(33), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(34), GSFC-ToHit(34), GSFC-Build%(34), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(36)
Level 22: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(36), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Foresight -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(37), LkGmblr-Def(37)
Level 26: Mask Presence -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(39), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(39), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(39), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(40), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 28: Mind Link -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(31), HO:Membr(36)
Level 30: Confuse -- CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(A), CoPers-Conf(42), CoPers-Conf%(42), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(42), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(43), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(43)
Level 32: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(46), Zephyr-ResKB(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48)
Level 35: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 38: Aid Other -- Heal-I(A)
Level 41: Aid Self -- Numna-Heal(A), IntRdx-I(43), Numna-Heal/Rchg(50), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(50)
Level 44: Spirit Shark -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), ExStrk-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Tactical Training: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Conditioning
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2nd fort

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1,401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

[u]Click this DataLink to open the build![u]

Level 50 Natural Arachnos Widow
Primary Power Set: Fortunata Training
Secondary Power Set: Fortunata Teamwork
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Telekinetic Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Combat Training: Defensive -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(7), LkGmblr-Def(9), Ksmt-ToHit+(9)
Level 2: Subdue -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(11), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(13), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15)
Level 4: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(15), LkGmblr-Def(17)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A), Zephyr-Travel(17), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(19), Zephyr-ResKB(19)
Level 8: Aim -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(21), RechRdx-I(21)
Level 10: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 12: Dominate -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(23), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(25), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(27)
Level 14: Indomitable Will -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(27), Heal-I(29)
Level 18: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 20: Tactical Training: Leadership -- GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(31), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(31), GSFC-ToHit(33), GSFC-Build%(33), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(33)
Level 22: Foresight -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(34), RedFtn-EndRdx(34), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(34), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(46), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 24: Mask Presence -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(36), LkGmblr-Def(36)
Level 26: Mind Link -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(36), HO:Membr(37)
Level 28: Confuse -- CoPers-Conf(A), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(37), CoPers-Conf%(37), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(39), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(39), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(39)
Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(50), ImpArm-ResDam(50)
Level 35: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(40), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 38: Confront -- Zinger-Taunt(A), Zinger-Taunt/Rng(40), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(42), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(46)
Level 41: Spirit Shark -- ExStrk-Dam%(A), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(42), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(43), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Apoc-Dam%(43)
Level 44: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(45), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(45), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Mental Blast -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(48), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Tactical Training: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Conditioning
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I can but hope, the lesson here is though dont call me names on the forums or i will throw it back worse

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You know very well who started to get rude.....
And she never called you names, even the ones who disagree with the thread can see that.

Anyway i hope they close this thread as ppl are getting to emotional, over a GAME rofl....

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Oh do shut up you total a s s , i bet your a right chav in RL or live on a council est going out with a girl called shaz, your a bigger waste of space than gorden brown.

Now jog on before i have to get real nasty with you

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Guess that will be one of your last posts before they ban your account on the forums for some time......