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Quote:The only case I HONESTLY think Bait and Switch has happened is the Stalker ATO proc, which was said to be working as intended with it's 100% proc rate every 10 seconds.Originally Posted by Arcanaville
As a matter of law, a contract cannot enforce illegal terms on its parties. However, what people on the internet think is illegal and what the law actually says is illegal seems to be two completely different things. In fact, I have yet to see a discussion about the law on these forums not eventually prompt someone to say that what the law actually says is irrelevant to what they believe is illegal.
This change is going to BUTCHER that proc, and I know people who bought Super Packs specifically for this proc.
That? Because Synapse, if I recall it was, said very clearly it was working as intended, and thus this word got out? It's a bait and switch to then nerf it after clarifying to the masses "This is working as intended, go nuts!"
Or maybe I'm wrong. -
Quote:I'm too lazy to even begin to study law in detail, so my stance is "Never buying IO's off the Paragon Market EVER again".Originally Posted by UberGuy
If forums are any indicator, it's far more common a misconception that this is what happens all the time, and that it will happen in their favor whenever something they don't like is covered by an EULA. Or rather, perhaps, that anything they don't like is actually a crime.
There's lots of crummy ways to treat customers that aren't illegal. The usual extent of the penalty is that those customers go away. If you're crummy enough, you lose more from doing that than you make by being crummy. If you're not that crummy, life goes on.
Speaking with my money. -
Quote:It's a common misconception that a EULA can hold up in court if it breaks better business laws and statures. For some reason it's also thought that if an EULA has a hidden text stating the developers can come to your house and commit murder with out repercussion, that it's fine because it's an EULA.Originally Posted by Vauluur
I think perhaps this a bit of an overreaction. I severely doubt that the EULA would lose in court. How are you going to argue you bought something in a game that changes all the time expecting it to always function the same? Especially when you specifically agreed to something that warns the content you pay for can be modified or removed at any time.
EULA's aren't never thrown out of court if a greater law is broken. Thus, IF one is, I hope nobody figures it out. -
Wow. Stalker ATO is ruined now.
Woooooow. -
Quote:Just don't buy anything but Power Sets and Costume Pieces from the Paragon Market, is basically the rule I set for myself now.Originally Posted by UberGuy
I would not call myself "gun shy" about the PM, but I have taken the position from its first release that anything bought there may change, and I consider that factor when thinking about buying something. The more amazing the something I'm considering seems, the more likely I consider it that it will be changed. There is no guiding principle I can offer other readers here - it's a "gut feel" thing. But if there is any advice I can offer, in anger or otherwise, is always think about whether you would pay those points if what you were buying was no better than something already in the game. If not, then don't buy it, at least at that price.
And XP Boosters I guess.
And Super Packs.
... Basically, don't buy IOs, people. -
This is a subtle, probably not purposeful Bait and Switch, seeing as at least a month's worth of testing went into the current SBE Procs on the market. The ONLY exception was Performance Shifter, thus why it's 'nerf' was acceptable en-masse.
With a MONTH'S WORTH OF TESTING, people knew exactly what they were buying. You may have not flat-out listed the PPM proc rates and information on the purchase screen, but a month is MORE than enough for people to know what they did, know how they work, and purchase them for that reason.
Not only, in doing this, did you 100% ruin the only 'perk' of buying SBE perks, but you're also nerfing them because "Oh no people are squeezing performance in City of Heroes!".
I know your EULA has a small clause stating we can't flail our arms and scream about these changes, but I also know an EULA is easily thrown out in court if you break a greater jurisdiction law. I really hope, for Paragon's sake, nobody has the willpower to take this to court.
I support the idea of making all procs PPM.
I do not support the idea of ludicrous caps that dynamically change the game.
I do not support 'subtle, accidental' Bait and Switch.
PS: I am also neeeever buying an IO off the Paragon Market again. Too subject to be randomly nerfed and the value going down. Yay for useless Mako's Bite procs.
You really need to refund these, Paragon. All sales are final is one thing, laughing at your player base because design made a boo boo is not kosher.
If absolutely NOTHING else, the Paragon Market versions could have a small advantage by having a slightly higher "proc cap" or whatever the heck. I don't know. I do know Stalkers are going to be screwed and the "Working as Intended" Stalker ATO proc will suffer for this.
That is a pretty nice bait and switch for anyone who purchased Super Packs specifically for that proc. -
Indeed. Why would you waste 5 Slot Hecatomb into PS? That's a foolish decision.
In the end, MB > SR > AS > PS is probably just slightly better in overall DPS. Slightly.
SR > PS > AS > SS still benefits from far superior burst damage, procs better, and gives a global Resistance buff.
Do you want maybe 10 more DPS in exchange for 7.5% Resistance and vastly superior Burst?
That's the choice. -
SS will ALWAYS proc a PPM, period. It never will not. (Unless you got terribly unlucky).
IS has nothing to do with the Stalker Forums, and is a terrible attack compared to the ST attacks.
AS will almost always proc a PPM, yes.
MB gains no advantages from PPMs.
SR has no PPMs to benefit from.
PS gets a small advantage from PPMs.
There is no way, and my calculations suggest this to be true, MB > SR > AS > PS can beat SR > PS > AS > SS, with PPM considerations.
If you are not using PPMs, MB > SR > AS> PS edges out by a fraction. You also lose SS's awesome animation and Burst Critical damage.
Even considering the power of AS, you don't edge out much at all. Average 12-15 DPS I think. Give or take a point, I'd have to double check my notes. Which quickly gets overcome by SS's superior PPM mechanics, so... I don't know.
In the end; Do whatever chain looks cooler. Form of the Body is overrated. -
Yes, I did. I should have mentioned that, likely.
And I already did, Micro. The difference is about 10 DPS in favor of NOT using Sky Splitter, but that's up to variables. There's likely no difference; Sky Splitter at Combo 3 with Form of the Body is probably going to be superior, ESPECIALLY if you use SBE Procs. -
Water Spout is a pretty deceptively large AoE, but it is not Burst Damage. Also, the Heel proc is unique because it applies a Buff to the target that applies a Debuff that specially says "DOES NOT STACK". The other benefit from having MB with Heel and Spout with Heel is having it up more often.
Melt Armor is a joke and gets resisted to pitiful (Read: 2%) Levels.
Fireball IS a good AoE but I've accepted that killing bosses instantly and then sweeping the minions tends to be a lot more effective than throwing a fireball. Fireball really only shines in Kinetic Melee, in my opinion, but it's still a Good Power.
Water Spout is, again, deceptively AoE and a Boss/AV Killer. Yum. It also is the single-most damaging increasing Epic/PAtron pool power in the game for Stalkers. No, Melt Armor does NOT compare. This is a fact on the forums. Water Spout adds significant damage due to Reactive procs + It's natural damage + proccing.
No debating that, so next...
Using MB with SR, PS, and AS over a chain with SS is... on base value, the DPA is about 10 higher? Maybe? But then if you factor in PPM Procs, Sky Splitter's chain pulls ahead. A lot. Because MB + PPMs = Nope.
Basically, for MB + Perfection 3 stacks versus Sky Splitter? The performance difference is minor (Aside from using SBE procs), that just use whichever chain LOOKS cooler.
Hint: Sky Splitter awsum. -
Quote:Water Spout is the best Epic power for Stalkers, period. AND it takes that proc, making MB all but redundant aside from it's... animation?Originally Posted by Granite Agent
I would have thought the -RES proc (and SBE Mako) in MB made including MB (as one of 4 attacks in the chain) a contender?
That is, either MB > PS > AS > SS .... or .... MB > SR etc. not PS > SR > AS > SS which can't slot - RES.
Note: Fireball is good too but not nearly as versatile as good ol' Water Spout. -
Quote:I should set off the creeper alert, but it's glad to see that some people can appreciate blunt and analytical individuals. Thanks!Originally Posted by Zyphoid
Yeah I hate shield too. It is pretty spiffy looking with Street Justice though if you want the Captain America look. I played one all through beta, and have one on live. However it suffered fro that "Too much of a good thing." problem. So, he never gets played now.
Guys, I am not trying to end the debate and do not want to be accused of it again. I do have a Staff/EA scrapper at lvl 50 now. Only +1 level shift, I do have t2 reactive interface, and t1 ion judgement, and t2 Clarion Radial. Radiation treatment and the HVAC guy came and stopped me from finishing it up.
I can tell you this with all honesty. Red Shepherd is a beast. He plows through minions and LTs like an Adamantium weed eater, with a Vorpal enchantment.
Numbers are great and all, but pylon numbers are not going to demonstrate what the set is going to do against a group, or what the set is going to do in the hands of a skilled player or builder.
Reppu, you are one of my global friends, and we share the same server. You are welcome to come play with me at any time to see what I can do with my Staff/EA scrapper character. I for some unknown reason like you, I think it is because you remind me of my sister, and oldest daughter. I have always liked blunt women. Happily married, so that was not a come on or pick up line.
I for the record do not think staff needs a buff. I do think scrappers should have a unique mechanic that makes them a special flower again. and I do not think I deserve a kick in the nads for thinking that. 
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Quote:I'm not particularly inclined to try. I could, if you absolutely desire, but isn't there some documentation showing how much DPS Reactive roughly adds? And it wouldn't be too much effort to remove the damage from Musculature but it's too much work for me.Originally Posted by BrandX
Curious. Did either of you check your times without incarnate abilities?
It'd probably drop to like 250 or something. I don't know right now. -
... Oh. It's an ego-stroking thread.
... It's not a very good build. So many basic mistakes costed you a lot of slots, a lot of damage, and a lot of survivability.
Back to the drawing board! -
Quote:Willpower is a plenty strong set in itself, too. I wouldn't feel bad at all for the choice in it.Originally Posted by Erratic
This is what I console myself with.
Willpower is extremely survivable and ultimately I had strong subjective reasons for going Willpower:
(1) I had never played the powerset before and was interested in trying it.
(2) It fit the character concept while Electric Armor did not.
(3) I really hate repeating powersets and had just finished levelling up a DM/Elec Brute two days before Staff released.
Btw, I was on a team with a Staff/Elec Stalker yesterday who had the entire Raiden thing going and he was pretty impressive, though at one point he took a wrong turn in Grandville and ended up dying as he faced a group on his own while the rest of the team was fighting elsewhere. Seeing his trouble, I asked if he had a rez handy. He said yes, but that he didn't dare rez where he was (beneath the feet of the group that had killed him). So I told him I was about to try something crazy and to be ready. Then I leapt in, dropped Eye of the Storm, and took off. With the group chasing me, he was free to rez and happily I managed to live too.
Sounds like you had fun, too! -
Quote:Just another rusty tool who can't back up their claims for demanding Scrapper (AoE) buffs and using their lack of skill as to why Corruptor/Blaster/Defender sets are fine and Scrappers are in a bad place.Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
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As an Staff/Elec Stalker, I can vouch how good it is.Quote:Originally Posted by Erratic
Very much agreed. I have been perhaps a poor team player by racing forward to the next spawn and starting to work on them solo because I exepect to be able to survive doing so, even with the mission difficulty set somewhat higher.
I am beginning to wonder if Electric Armor is not the best secondary for for Staff Fighting. This may be "grass is greener" buyer's regret for having gone Willpower (Edit: Let me note I am very happy with Willpower), but look at what Electric Armor brings to the table: a damage aura, decent psionic resist, a heal, endurace cost reduction, recharge boost, endurance gain (self)/drain (enemies), and you're basically immune to energy attacks and endurance drain.
Running Form of the Mind in combination with Lightning Reflexes is like have 1.6 recharge reduction SOs slotted. If you add in Hasten it is like having 3.7 recharge SOs slotted while ignoring ED. And this is before you consider slotting recharge reduction in any of your powers. Of course you'lll be consuming endurance like crazy but you have Power Sink to replenish you, which due to all the recharge you're packing along with you slotting it up will probably be up quite often. And for whatever damage you take, Energize will not only be healing you but reducing your endurance costs for 30s at a time.
On the other hand, enjoy spending a few billion influence on survivability? -
Quote:You're just baseless and twisting things yourself now. Moving on.Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
What, you mean when I said that 2 or more blasters or corruptors can kill an entire spawn before a scrapper can reach it to attack?
I stand by it.
You twisted what I said to make it sound like I was saying that a single corruptor was doing that, which I never said.
It did happen. A blaster and a corruptor combined were obliterating spawns before my scrapper could get to them to attack.
If you want to call me a liar, that's fine, I think personal attacks from the likes of you are amusing. But if you're going to do so, call me a liar about what I actually said, instead of twisting what I said and then calling me a liar.
I wouldn't have bothered to respond to you here, except someone else quoted you so I actually saw it.
Let me clarify; I don't like Shield Defense. I've played, it wasn't my thing. It's a good set, at least I thought so. It's just... I don't like how limited it feels to me aesthetically.Quote:Originally Posted by Lucky666
Do you always base you opinion and judge things based off of hearsay?
Moreover, I can look at Shield Defense and go "Well, it sacrificed some of it's defense properties for Shield Charge and Against All Odds. That's nice."
So, my statement was right, "I don't play Shield Defense", just tag on "anymore".
I personally, and in my posting history proves it, was an advocate that Shield Defense was fine with out the Hami-O Exploit. I probably should have tried to make my post, in this thread prior, sound a bit more sarcastic, just to gauge a bit more.
Oh well. Doesn't matter.
I think Shield Defense is fine, even if I don't tend to like many of the 'Offensive Hybrid' 'Defense', as in Survivability, sets. Not Defense as the statistic.
By that I mean Fiery Aura is something I'm still musing a conceptual build for, and Shield Defense needs a different primary to interest me. Not a fan of Broadsword. Maybe a Mace/Shield Scrapper? Ho hum.
Eh, going off topic again.
Shield Defense is fine, Staff Attack Chains aren't hard to figure out, people whining about the HO fix are stupid, Blasters flawed need buffs. -
... So you took some of the best powers from the various support sets, BUFFED most of them...
This is badly overpowered and has no synergetic design. It's, obvious to me anyway, an attempt to get one's favorite powers all in one set.
Start over. Think of a theme first, then work in the powers. As it is, this is just "MY FAVORITE POWERS! ^_^"
I can't suggest anything with it being what it is. It has no theme. -
Sky Splitter is amazing for Tankers.
Weapon Sets are bad for Brutes because they lose Gloom Effectiveness.
ANOTHER FOOLISH BRUTE MAKING A WEAPON SET! MWAHAHAHA! -
Isn't there a forum section for builds, unless you're posting it to... show other Stalkers what you can do? I'm mildly confused at the purpose of this thread. Did you... need help?
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/forumdisplay.php?f=770
Because it probably needs to be posted here? Or maybe I'm confused. I'm probably confused. -
PS is better DPA than SR. by a small margin. it can also take a Mako's SBE, which beats a Purple Proc.
Again, MB > PS > AS > SS requires SS to be at 100% Recharge and have 200% Global Recharge. The benefits of MB > PS > AS > SS over PS > SR > AS > SS are minor.
As for MB > SR> AS > SS, it's likely inferior due to SBEs -
Quote:Child till the end. Had to 'win' their artificial argument by ignoring the person they forced into it.Originally Posted by Tyger42
If you have to put words into my mouth to refute what I'm saying, don't bother arguing. You've lost and you know it.
Lul?
Anyway, uh... Tex.
What are you talking about? How do you compare Hail of Bullets to an entire power set? It's not illogical for people to compare power sets.
... Also Dual Pistols in general is a bunch of below average or bad attacks. Hail of Bullets being the 'best' power in the set and even that is out-matched. Badly. -
Quote:... Because, you are. Unless you get terribly, TERRIBLY unlucky, as in if you want I can do the math for you on the odds of you going...Originally Posted by Tyger42
How about the part where you tell us we're doing something wrong if we miss more than once in a row?
Miss - Streakbreaker - Miss - Streakbreaker - Miss - Streakbreaker...
I can do it. You're going to not like the results and you already KNOW the results.
So, yes. If you are missing that often at 95%, you're probably just horribly unlucky. You have to be horribly unlucky. BUT, if you're missing so much in the first place and it's not due to 5% luck shenanigans, your build may have massive ACC/ToHit issues, and for Titan Weapons that is a Big Problem.
If you can't take the base-level debuffing or 'Purple Patch' To-Hit penalties in trials, your build is flawed For Titan Weapons.
So, let me restate this:
Unless you're amazingly, cosmically-damned unlucky, or got amazingly heavily debuffed, you're doing something wrong with your build and Titan Weapons, if simple Purple Patch is making the set 'unplayable'.
Now, are you going to stop being an egomaniac about a game that does not exist? -
Quote:MB Is only worthwhile for a Heel proc. That said, it will only be a little bit better, if you can get consistent procs with MB.Originally Posted by Granite Agent
So I did a few runs on my Staff/ELA stalker, and pretty consistently got 3.45 which is the same time Reppu posted.
see here:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...postcount=2378
My chain was MB-SR-AS-SS. T3 Musc, T4 Degen (25% -HP, 75% dot).
I'm curious if any number crunchers can tell me how much better (if at all) MB-PS-AS-SS would be. In my build, SR is slotted with 5 Apocalype (including purple proc) and a PVP dmg proc. If I swapped it for PS, I'd probably frakenslot for dmg/end/recharge and use 2 procs - Mako SBE and PVP.
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It's not really worth the global recharge needed for that chain (200%) -
Quote:... And yet I have been. I agreed Staff Fighting is fun. I said Titan Weapons has it's flaw, Endurance Management and hitting, that, while can be managed, are flaws.Originally Posted by Tyger42
As long as I own up to them. When are you going to own up to yours rather than pointing them out and pretending they're wrong?
And that Fire Imps were apparently never a highlight in Fire Control even though Machine Gun Imps were AMAZING.
I, on the other hand, never once questioned people who are having fun with Staff Fighting. I DO believe people who follow purely aesthetics are wrong, just as much as I feel you cannot have a game with out them. This seems to be commonly mis-quoted from me, but I digress.
If I am guilty of anything, it is simply not agreeing with you, and yet I still agreed Titan Weapons has it's flaws, but they are flaws one can easily fix.
Damage Scale disparities cannot be fixed by any amount of buffing. They are hard-coded. That is where Titan Weapons shines. Large damage scales with momentum, Average with out it, massive Radius. These are things no one can change with in-game tools. Period.
Does it make more sense now that it's a bit more 'clear'? I don't really care, as long as your attitude persists, and your clearly faux perceptions are to paint me as a 'villain'.
... When, in hilarity, I've done everything you've asked. You just don't want to accept it and be wrong. Stop making this into a competition. Nobody is going to win.