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Thanks Ad, I have read that already though. I put up a request for more info on Manticores Lore thread.

FYI - I have started on a storyline for the EAT. It involves the Midnighter Squad as was talked about earlier. I am still doing a lot of research to make sure it is solid. Going through lore of the game as well as RL history. It is all comming together pretty well so far but I do have a tiny bump in my road. So who should I talk to about information on an NPC? I have never PMd a Dev before and I just want this next draft to be as thorough as possible.

Im waiting on some information about the midnight squad and its members. Espescially Darrin Wade. N e one able to help me out on that?

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Where are the gas stations in Paragon?

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Whoa I can't believe I have never thought about that before...lol

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Seriously, how do you expect them to remember things for the events if you ask for them this far in advance?

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Do you honestly think that everything the Devs do is out of memory? That would be a very disorganized way of running things. They would remember by making a note of said event changes to implemented, maybe in a digital file or calander or an alarm reminder. Maybe it would be printed out and put in a big stack of papers titled "Things to do" who knows, but there is a system trust me.

Nice Angel_Red, Bas Relief scultures on the doors would look very nice! Leave it to the reds to come up with the best solution. :P

Your mock up is a good idea but i dont think it fits the old archaic theme of the club. Perhaps the zone name could be chiseled in the stone above the doorway. Or if you wanted to keep things a bit more cryptic, just a small statue above the doorway would be cool, kinda like old gothic groteques (gargoyles) but they could be heads of the hero statue in that corresponding zone.

I want to know more about Darrin Wade. What was the "falling out" that Darrin Wade had with the Midnight Squad? What led to this falling out? Do they have any plans to elaborate on this character in the future? Any additional information about the Midnight Squad would be awesome as well, will Dream Doctor ever return? What happened to Pontice Doub. How did Montague become the current leader?

I am asking because of a storyline I am working on and if a story for Wade pops up then I don't want mine to contradict it. I know Manticore has his work cut out for him, four pages of posts to be answered. But as much as you can reveal about the Midnight Club would be great.

ClawsandEffect, you are fine, no problem at all. This is just more of a general thread for all origins. Yes that includes magic, but what I was going for was other peoples ideas about a different sets or EATs, not about my Magic Wand & Wizard Staff idea.

Comments or suggestions specifically about my Wand/Staff EAT should go to the "Magic Wand & Wizard Staff Ranged Powersets" thread, but it is not taboo here. The reason I ask that it goes to the other thread is because I want as much feedback, comments, derogatory statements as well as applauses, as possible on that thread. No big deal either way, just a simple request is all, thanks.

Ad_Astra...whats your problem? I said please...meaning a kind request. Whatever, I know people can post where they like. I am simply asking that questions and comments about the Wand Powerset go to the Wand Powerset thread. No big deal.

Thanks wikked I appreciate that, I was hoping that the same set would be available to heroes and villains. I will look into that.

Also I have another thread about a new Halloween Event 2010 idea, everyone seems to love it, check that out.

As I mentioned above I have already planned on putting wands into a midnighter storyline. Perhaps you missed that, no biggy. A storyline idea has been discussed and established. Thanks for the input though.

Please continue any further talk about the wands on my "Magic Wand & Wizard Staff Ranged Powersets" thread. Thank you.

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In the same way, one could take the idea of the Midnighters and suggest that they possibly have their own EAT. Maybe, in addition to the normal magic powers the majority of their followers have (Sigil and Kadabra Kill for example are obvious Defender/Blaster types), their most elite members are called the Midnight Mystics. Say that these mystics wield a range of magical powers known only by a privileged few. An added benefit to going with the Midnighters is their EAT could be available to both sides, Heroes or Villains. Expand upon that. Work out a basic story outline. Work out a branching tree of Primary and Secondary pools (similar to SoAs) with the powers you would like to see. Include others and ask for suggestions for powers. Don't be afraid to use powers from other powersets, but don't just port over a copy of those powers and add a wand. It's not different enough to warrant consideration when you do that. Make them unique somehow.

I personally like the idea of an EAT with a mix of different power types. I just don't necessarily like it being tied to a specific Origin. If it was part of an EAT with an epic storyline that explained why it was limited to them it would be more acceptable.


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I have a different thread for the Magic Wand EAT, Titled "Magic Wand & Wizard Staff Ranged Powersets" it includes a very detailed explaination of the powers. Nine for each primary and secondary sets. It was originally intended just as a new powerset, but later discussed and decided than an EAT would be more appropriate because of its unique combinations. Please check that out. The first post is a sort of rough draft. I am working on a revised version including drawings and a Midnighter storyline.

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Native: You can use this land, sure no problem.
European: Sweet, free land.
(3 days later)
European: What are you doing on my land?
Native: Hunting.
European: You can't hunt here, this is mine, you said I could have it.
Native: Dude, totally not what we meant.
European: No backsies! (shoots native)

Not to mention the term "European Giver" could just as easily indicate someone who gives something to someone else in the hopes of infecting them with a lethal plague, and would be alot more accurate.

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OMG laughing beyond control. I can see this being one of JDs little crazy visions on Scrubs. Espescially with the term "backsies" in it.

Back on track, I think Going Rougue is fine, but I agree that something like "Choose your Destiny" or "Make your Fate" would have been loads more awesomeficationized. ...its a word... Verb: Past tense, to make awesome.

Well I only posted this thread for people who were complaining on my other thread "if your wand is magic origin only then why dont we have some EATs for other origins" So that is why this is here.

If you complained about the other EATs then there is no reason not to consider this idea. But I really do not care if other single origin EATs are created. I only care about my magic one. And yes I know what it takes to create an EAT because I am in the process of writing one. First draft was a little rough, some changes are being made, and I am producing drawings to go with my ideas for those visual people out there. I am doing a lot to make my wand idea as detailed as possible. So I know exactly what it takes tyvm.

I am sorry for being rude, my appologies for that (believe it or not I am not a total jerk). I just do not cater to the needs of people who like to complain but offer no solutions. But honestly, the Archetypes that are already single origin exist in game whether we like it or not. I am not saying this to be a jerk, it is just a fact, they are here. I was just going with the system already in place for EATs. If no one wants to post any ideas about this then I will basically consider this thread a lost cause and let it crawl off to die. Do with it what you will. I am going to spend more time on the threads I actually care about like my Magic Wand, and Halloween Event threads.

Sorry for stirring up such a rukus that was not my intention here.

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You should never need a temp power to defeat a free-spawning Giant Monster. Unless you can just stop at a store and buy it. Relying on it dropping is not a good idea. If it spawns and no one has the temp power you have an unstoppable GM running around, potentially killing everyone in the zone.

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Absolutely not a random drop, actually it would be a temp power that you could get by completing the haunted house, that way people would have to enter the house. There could even be little clues that the NPCs would tell you like one NPC says "I hear that the Scarecrow comes to life on this night every year, but some say he has a weakness" then a different NPC could say "I heard that the Lord of the mansion used a special tome to control the scarecrow" and then another rumor could be "There is a hidden library in the mansion with books on magic and the occult." or some similar clues of that effect that lead you into the mansion to get the temp power which could be a magic tome.

The weakening effect could be similar to the one to defeat Dr. Aeon, except multiple people would get it and use it, or similar to the temp power in the new Kahn TF comming with i15. Only difference really is that you are using it on a GM instead of an AV.

NICE those are cool ideas Hero. Yeah I definately want the house to connect to the graveyard crypt. Some of the things I automatically throw in with a haunted house and need not elaborate. Just Imagine anything from The Haunting and go from there. As for the Shining homage, I love your idea but I doubt the devs would do it because copyright issues. "Its OKAY hunnie, he saw it on the television..." Cue Nickelson crazy face expression.

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The use of cut scenes to show you how other visitors to the house died.

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I am all about cutscenes, but finding out how these people died through solving the riddles is really the point here. The fun is unveiling the mystery, not having it shown to you. Maybe a better way to do this is have the AV at the end tell the story in a cut scene just before the battle, or after the battle before he dies and whithers away in a gentle breeze.

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Opening a certain door suddenly causes the rooms behind you to lock, forcing you to continue forward to find another way out. (Disable TP powers, Pocket D transport etc…)

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When defeated you rez in a room with dead bodies all around you. And you rez with low health & end.

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These are definately cool ideas, but causing a character to be "stuck" and unable to move backwards is more of a pain in the rear, rather than a fun cool element that causes you to proceed ahead. When stuck in the CoT Jail, or the Villain Jail in Mayhems, is interesting, but causes everyone in the team to have this overwhelming "awwwwww man " kind of feeling. I want this to be about fun. If you don't like something or if you are getting bored, or having a hard time getting through, I want you to be able to get out and recruit or be able to tp everyone to be rezzed etc. But I applaud your effort for something new!

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Statues that slowly turn to face you as you approach.

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This is an AWESOME idea but how would the statue turn its head to follow a person on a team, it cannot follow everyone if they are spread out. Perhaps instead it would slowly turn and change expression when a proximity trigger is hit somewhere in the next room or the end of the hallways etc.

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Swarm of bugs skittering across the floor. (Can use the same FX that is used near the Jail Bird badge redside)

Skeletons chained to a wall. (Similar to the ones from Fort Hades in Port Oakes)

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These would be cool for the crypts but I don't think it would be good in the mansion.

I am liking all of these ideas but they would probably have to be things that are added later. Just creating the new map and new AVs & GMs would be a lot of work.

It seems that everyone likes this thread so please tell your friends about it. Thanks.

I see your point wikked, I just do not agree. I do not have any statistics to back it up, but I don't think all of the powerets appeal to 4/5ths of the player base. It is the variety of choices of sets that makes it great.

I really have no problem making this set available for other origins, but since the other EATs are single origin only I just think it is befitting for a Magic Wand to be Magic Origin. If the devs think it would be OK to make it available to other origins then that is just fine by me.

I have found a way to fit it into the game lore. This E.A.T. would come from a new Midnighter story arc. Since all the Midnight club is really good for so far is going to Cimerora. I would write them a new arc that could tie into the whole Demon Summoning power. There could be a new group of demonic villains that has to be stopped. As a reward you get the wand EAT from the Midnighters. That is just one idea, I am open to other story ideas if anyone has any.

Cosmetic Changes

I have always wanted to take a stone tank to 50, but the "big klunky" way it looks disgusts me. I am too vain to play it. Personally I would love to see stone tanks take on a more, chiseled marble, sort of look. Like they were carved out of stone, opposed to having pieces of stone stuck to them like rocky leaches. But that is just me, I assume some people like the way it looks. But if you had a texture overlay that made you look like a stone statue, it would be cool to be able to customize the texture. Change the 2 colors of it, what type of stone it is like a cool marble with streaks, shiny black onyx, or just regular ol grey rock.

I have a similar issue with Dark Armor. I feel like a giant fuzz ball of purple lint. Why can't it have a more stylish, sleek black look, semi-opaque like invisibility with a black "top overlay"

Thanks guys I really appreciate the positive vibes. *BIG SMILE*

Spawning this stuff in Croatoa would work fine I guess, or even modify a zone that not many people like (i could be wrong here) but I dont think many people care for Dark Astoria or Boomtown. With the way that NPCs dissapear when you get close to them in Dark Astoria would be a cool way to make the ghosts in the Mystery Mansion. I would really like to see a new zone personally. But either way I would just like to see improvement from the current Halloween Event.

Well...ok then, forget comming up with a better idea. How about instead of just criticizing me, help me think of a better way to make this idea better?

"I am an idea man, I thrive on enthusiasm" People poking holes in them, or saying they are bad, without providing some kind of constructive criticism, gets really annoying.

I appologize if this has come across as harsh, but all of these comments come across as VERY harsh to me.

This does not work for power customization, because that does not include all of the new powers I have thought of, or having numerous types of elements in one set. Power customization simply put, does not cover all of the aspects that this covers.

You can give a fire blaster a wand...but he is still a fire blaster. We need new sets of powers. Not just a wand set, but many other sets as well. Expanding the game to give players as many sets to choose from as possible is ideal. That is why they have added new powersets and archetypes.

Powersets, Archetypes, whatever, what I want lies somewhere between the definition of the 2. Who cares about all the technical jargin crud.

My main point is, if the Kheldian and Arachnos Archetypes have their own unique Powersets that are limited to one specific origin, then why can't we have a magic origin E.A.T. or a technology E.A.T.

It does not have to be the only one either. Natural origin E.A.T.s have 3 choices. Science has 1. Give Magic and the other origins a special E.A.T. as well.

Also note, just because this ONE power would exist in an origin, doesnt mean that it would effect anything that people have already done with their current toons, and their current backstories. This is, just an additional option, if you don't like it, then don't play it. You don't HAVE to conform to anything. Why you think this i have no idea, you can always do what you have always done.

OMG!!!!!!!!!!

We ALREADY HAVE ORIGIN SPECIFIC POWERSETS!

Natural Origin ONLY include: Peacebringers, Arachnos Soldiers and Arachnos Widows.

Science Origin Only includes Warshades.

How is, the idea I am suggesting ANY different than these? It isn't! Did all of you whiners complain when these four Archetypes were created? If you did then im sorry, go cry about it, they are here. Just because you dislike something, doesn't mean it should not be in the game. I only made this post because people were griping about my other magic post. You have the chance to post a better idea. And when you do, I hope a pack of rabid dogs like yourselves tear it to shreds.

Go ahead and sit back in your little comfort zone because this game WILL change, or it WILL die.

Well thanks for your opinion wikked, but honestly, my power idea is very cool in my opinion, and many people that I have talked to in game agree. As do a few other people that posted about it.

And you can think of wands in the D&D only sense as much as you want, but that doesn't mean that everyone else feels the same way you do. The idea of wands have been around WAY before D&D ever thought about existing.

I am not thinking of them in strictly the Harry Potter sense either, as I have said numerous times earlier in this post. These wands could be short or long, and have many different weapon customization power ideas. They could have many different shapes, and be made of many different things. Their Main appeal, is that the powers add new and interesting animations and effects, they mix up many different types of powers, and they are a new weapon for ranged toons. Just because you dislike it, does not mean it should not be in the game, and that is a fact. There are many things in the game people dislike, but they are there. I am sorry to tell you this, but your opinion isnt the only one that counts. Neither is mine, I am just throwing this idea out there because it is something that some people would like. Maybe it is only 1/5th of the games players that would like it, so what. Us magic fans deserve a power a little better than the [Blackwand].

If you, or anyone else has a better idea for a ranged weapon, please create a thread on it. And maybe I will like it. But all I can say is this, my idea is unlike any other power in the game, it is unique, innovative, and well thought out. So please, if you can tell me an idea for a ranged weapon that is NOT a gun, bow, or crossbow, then please by all means toss it out there.

This isn't about Demon Summoning Wikked, he was just using that as an example because it is the next powerset comming. The Origin issue we are discussing is a new Magic Wands powerset.

And you shouldnt say that limiting a powerset to one origin is retarted, because the Devs have already done that with Peacebringers and Warshades...are you calling the Devs Retarted, Wikked?

It was a good joke, I dont think the animation times would be bad because the wand would already be out almost all of the time. If all of the powers use the wand you rarely have to put it away unless your using temp powers or pool powers.

But some of the animations would take a little longer obviously, this is usually the case with a few select powers. Good point though, I will remember that when I revise the list! Thanks.