Ravenswing

Like we said (I think), it doesn't really make sense, but we're dealing with comic-book physics, so if it floats your boat, go for it. Don't try to come up with something which makes any form of scientific sense because the actual physics of a human flying under powered wings is it ain't possible. Just for starters, you'd need a wingspan like a 747 to shift a musclebound 8-foot humanoid.

I was reading something somewhere which basically said that giving a human bird-like 'foam filled' bones would make so little difference to the overall body weight as to not really count. However, yes, that's a usual adaption. Makes for a sucky hero, of course, when someone can break your limbs with a light tap.

To get anything the size of a human in the air, you'd probably need both a denser atmosphere, and lighter gravity, and a chest which stuck out about four feet to mount the flight muscles on. There's some very good books on the physics of comic book and sci-fi abilities. Most of them basically come down to 'no way, man!'

Exactly!

Nope. You didn't read the thread either.

Nitoichi remains a human, if a rather capable one. Gunwitch will be a step down again.

Ni's progression to 50 was part of the character story, in fact. Her whole reason for all that leg work was to reach 'security level 35' so that Vanguard would take her on and let her beat the carp out of Rikti in the war zone.

Gunwitch is staying a street hero. I'm not sure I'll ever treat any of the 'world saving' missions as IC in her case, unless she's tagging along with other heroes. Carnies, maybe, since they affect normal folks, but she's far more interested in making sure the streets are safe than making sure the multiverse doesn't implode.

I'm 45. I got my first PnP RPG (the original black-box Traveller) for my 13th birthday. I've run an NwN server and I've done LARP. I'm quite aware of what roleplaying is.

I'm also aware that a lot of the people playing computerised RPGs don't.

That is exactly the issue this thread is trying to address, in a way. People do make Galactus-class characters and try to roleplay them in CoH. They usually take them to Pocket D, where they can meet the other people playing bad comic-book clones. This is good, because it's in another dimension and if they slap each other with the force of a thousand suns exploding, Paragon City doesn't get trashed. Probably the only reason the city's still standing that is.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Ah, Annette's swords. When she was an itty, bitty hero, she used a fairly standard pair of Japanese swords, and that was fairly reasonable. As soon as she could, she got her hands on a pair of Talsorian energy blades. Now, that covers how she was able to carve up armoured Rikti and the like.

Now she uses her wonderful, mega-flange Masamune daisho. Masamune was a real Japanese swordsmith. Half a legend. With something like magic woven into the metal, these swords can cut anything, or, when a 3 year-old picks one up and tries to chop her Dad's arm off, cut nothing. They also come when summoned, so she can pull them out of the air whenever she wishes.

Evolving game mechanic rationalisation.

Aha! We come to the core of the issue: What is fun?

To you (and I) fun does not involve playing overly powerful characters. It's too easy. No challenge.

To some, it is fun to play such characters, so long as they limit them in some ways which makes them vulnerable.

And to some, unfortunately, the fun aspect of a game is winning and that even applies to roleplay. How do you win at roleplay? Apparently, it's by having a character which is better than everyone else's character.

My point throughout really, has been that creating CP characters for that third variety of fun is generally to the detriment of all those around you.

Ellie can angst up in 48 seconds!

What's wrong with it? I use IE8 (mostly) and it seems okay. What's the symptom?

Incidentally, I personally find that other browsers aren't better, they're just less standard.

i kill you!

My pleasure and if we can come up with a plot for something, I'd love to see that too.

Fixed that for you. Sadly, in practice, the ones who would probably be okay to have in a plot they could break stay out for fear of breaking it, and the others go ahead and break it.

Jason's primary god-ish power is directly the result of game mechanics. It is entirely demonstratable that he can't die permanently. In terms of world-breaking, he's a necromancer, when he isn't: i.e he can't raise the dead, he's not an MM. Not dying is a power all our characters have.

It's a bit like Nitoichi summoning her swords out of thin air. Well, I mean, they appear out of thin air! Game mechanics turned on its head.