Rangle M. Down

One last image to throw into the mix. Although in real life it was only a single shot weapon I just like the oddball look of the FP-45 Liberator:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FP-45_Liberator

I'd like to throw in the look of these as well if they haven't already been mentioned.

Farscapes Pulse Pistol:
http://farscape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Pulse_pistol.jpg

Logan's Run DS Gun:
http://www.snowcrest.net/fox/logan2/gun.htm

Judge Dredd's Lawgiver:
http://www.berettaworld.com/index.as...53%26did%3D449

Hellboy's Samaritan:
http://www.yourprops.com/norm-476298...282004%29.jpeg

Found this by accident, but looks interesting:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jrosocha...74559766501890

Healing Flames will give you toxic resist for a bit everytime you use it. 20% for 60 sec. The resists stack.

CJ gives you a bit more defense, but if you feel you want more recharge you can go the Hasten/Super Speed route. It really depends on your play style. My Fire/Fire tank has air superiority/Fly because that fits the particular style of the tank. Air Superiority's kd certainly helped with the toon lvling, but it's not for everyone.

That's a nice build Computer. As you mentioned it's also fairly expensive and some of those IO's are quite hard to come by.

Since your build focuses on more recharge/recovery, getting healing flames up quickly and less on +def I wonder if going the hasten/Super Speed route would be more advantageous for the build instead of CJ/SL.

Before I forget, look at Multi Strikes in Blazing Aura instead of the Oblits.... Again Moar damage for less end usage. There is a trade off there with the set bonuses.

The reason I suggested Reactive Armor is two fold.

You're set bonus of s/l defenses add up. As has been mentioned else where: +1 def = +2 resist. More defense helps.

I think you'll be surprised at how good lvl 40 IO's compare to lvl 50's. There isn't much of a drop off. I've got four Reactives, the Steadfast unique and the Steadfast -kb in Fire Shield. (You really should fit the Steadfast Unique in) Try it on the alternative slotting and see what the differences are by switching back and forth.
(BTW: I believe Impervium Armor also caps at lvl 40.)

Uhm... not sure where to begin, but here goes.

Super Leap: WAY over slotted. Some of your attacks would make use of those slots. I rarely slot travel powers with even 4 slots and that's usually for specific set bonuses.

Combat Jumping: You're one End redux IO saves you .02 end/sec. That's really a pittance compared to using that slot in an attack. Look what you'd save end/sec wise putting that into Blazing Aura: .11 end/sec. Much more efficient. On top of that the Oblit set doesn't have much end/redux in it compared to others.

I'd also use four of the Reactive Armors in Tough,Fire and Plasma Shield adding in the Steadfast Unique +3%def/resist to one of them.

Fire Embrace: Three slot it with recharge reduction. The end cost for it is so minimal compared to wanting it up as often as possible. That drops the recharge from 114sec to 88 secs. Moar damage.

What are you hoping to get out of Acrobatics? A single steadfast -kb will cover you for most of the kb encountered in the game. Since it's not a unique you can slot it in Tough, Fire and Plasma on top of the RAs if you feel you need that much -kb. That will open up another power choice and cost you less end/sec.

Personally I'd use most of the slots you have in Rise of the Phoenix in other areas to help avoid needing to use it. I think I had it set with one recharge before I respec'd out of it.

Temperature Protection: Not sure why you've taken it. Without it you're already soft capped to fire, you're barely getting over 16% resist to cold and you could cover the slow debuff resist with the Winter's Gift unique if you felt the 20% resist was that needed. (Not that the unique is cheap.)


That's my initial reaction to the build you've posted. I'm certainly not one of the experts around here so take it as you will. As always YMMV.

Again Ultimo, what is your build? With more information we can better assess why it is that you're seeing what you're seeing. My BS/Inv. scrapper didn't live up to the Inv part very well until I did better job of power selection and slotting. Now he survives much better. With better information we might be able to help.

What's your build?

He started a thread asking what folks opinions were on the subject here: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=190820

I'm currently too tired to really see what you're getting with your IO's without opening it up in Mids. Not that I'd be all that great at seeing the bonuses even if I wasn't tired.

Folks seem to have issues with Stone Armor on many levels, the -spd being a portion of it. With IO's you can over come quite a bit, if not all of the -spd.

The other usual comments are:

• It's not just the -spd, but the -dmg and -rech. Inv. tanks can be built to be as sturdy if not more so then a Granite Armor/Rooted runnin tank, with out those limitations. So the arguement usually goes that either IO'd Inv. Tanks can replace a Stone tank so why bother, or that Stone tanks are way to penalized compared to said Inv. tank and should have some of the penalties taken away/lessened.

• The current inability to customize Granite Armor. (From what I understand it used to look like the Earth Controller's Animated Stone Pet, so there has been improvement. And it sounds like BaB's is considering making a change in the future.)

• Needing to toggle off/on both Granite and Rooted shouldn't be necessary to move about quickly. You don't have to do that with any other Armor set. On top of that, they're you're only source of status protection in the set so you make you're self vulnerable when you're not running one or the other.

• Stone Armor is considered to under perform outside of Granite Armor. Although there are those that will disagree with that statement, Castle weighed in and stated he believes it does. (post #69 of this thread: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=190199 )

I'm sure there are other things I'm missing, but I think that covers the usual larger points made. Hopefully I've stated them correctly.

I built my Stone tank a bit differently from yours. He did pretty well leveling to 50.

I went with Swift and 3 slotted it before getting Rooted at lvl 8. Rooted is your status protection out of Granite armor and I found it good to have ASAP. Three slotting swift certainly helps a bit with the -spd of Rooted.

I went with Teleportation right at lvl 14. Although you can toggle Rooted off and on as needed between groups, TP helps greatly moving from close mob to close mob. (I still get the Raptor Pack for ease of some vertical movement, but it doesn't work with either Granite or Rooted on.)

I held off on Brimstone until quite late in my build, and really only have it as an IO place holder.(It may go away with the new build I'm working on. ) Stone Skin with Rock Armor and Rooted is quite survivable leveling through the 20's. Earth's Embrace helps there as well. I ended up getting Minerals in the mid 20's to deal with Psionics, but I probably could have put that off a little longer then I had.

If it comes down to a choice of Granite Armor vs. Crystal Armor at lvl 32, Granite wins. It's as if the sky opened up and the Fates smiled upon you! Although Granite comes with some major penalties (-spd,-dmg, -rech) you get a huge boost to survivability. Even with SO's you can easily cap s/l resistances with everything else but Psi in the 70's. You're defenses will be in the high 20's+, again, not including Psi. (Psi is Granite Armor's weakness, but with a high enough Regen in Rooted and applications of Earth's Embrace it can be managed.)

You shouldn't have to run Rooted with Granite unless you're health is getting worn down. I'll still do missions running outside of Granite with just Rock Armor and Rooted, especially if I'm not the lead tank on a team or I don't need the survivability of Granite. I put off Hasten until later in the build when I could fit it in, but that's pretty much a personal preference.

Hope this helps.

Oh, and your data link isn't working...

Personally, I'd hold off on RPD a little longer and replace it with an attack.

Attack slotting I lean towards acc, then either dmg/end redux. (usually end redux for me, but either can be argued for) 3rd slot will be the the dmg or end redux I didn't use in slot two. 4th slot is recharge. For me I find that it creates a nice balance for my attacks. YMMV

New Dawn's recommendations will certainly help your current build.

Issue 15: MA nerf?

If you do go Fire for a primary, using Tough can get around 70% resist to s/l and cap fire resistance without having to use Temperature Protection. Adding in Weave helps a bit more as well. There are Fire/ builds that have soft capped defense, but they are fairly expensive to do so from what I recall.

To the OP. What they showed at Hero Con was a small portion to whet your appetite for the upcoming expansion. Unfortunately to you instead of a nice tray of chips and dip, or some other party snack you like, it came across as escargot or some such. Sorry you were disappointed. We'll need to wait much closer to the release of Going Rogue to really see what the appetizer, main course and dessert will really look like. Then if it turns out to be "grandma's not so special recipe"... er uhm.. nvm.

At the moment I think it's way to early to see what we're really going to get with the expansion.