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How about we throw up some suggested alternative times then?

Only time I can't really make is Friday evening until probably after about 10pm UK time (depends how quick we eat our thai banquet! )

Edit: I will show up tonight though just incase...

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AAAH. No. I've just realised I've promised my girlfriend we'd go to dinner this evening. I'll be divorced if I say "no, can't. Playing PC games" again.

I'm gonna have to withdraw totally folks. I'm really sorry.

Anyone eliminated / itching for a fight from the Forums want to sub?

* Edit: Dang. I am going out like that

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btw, if we got agreement from the other 5 I would be willing to change the date to an agreed alternative that everyone can make...

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Good work, although I'd appreciate a little more time to prepare..

And whats the match time please? 7pm?


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hey it's random, prep work isn't needed *crosses fingers and hopes for best*

Normally it's kick off at about 7.30 I think??

Might be tricky to be there for 7pm but will try my best...

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How about a bar similar to a doms that fills up over time (not sure what youd have to do to fill it though ). When its maxed the defender gets a one off power that returns all team mates to full end/full hp or maybe gives them a large def/res increase for a short duration?

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liking this idea - think better to go for the one off def/res increase though, that would be pretty fab.

No idea how to fill the bar though because no defender sets are the same...

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Then the temptation is to blast with your stronger debuffs rather than heal / defend though.

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true, although perhaps that adds a little versatlity - defending with blasts as well as heals/buffs etc??

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So in answer to the question "empaths, unappreciated?"

That means "no" simply because someone namely "me" appreciates them.

I hope that ends the debate

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I appreciate empaths as well

I like the suggestions made by Chaplain and Avalanche. I wonder if you could combine the two so that you get slightly more damage and an increase to the secondary effects... or... if the team is doing well you get increased damage and as the team does worse your secondary effect chance goes up slightly... so where as before maybe you could only disorient a minion, as the team does worse you have more chance to disorient a lieutenant..

I dunno

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Sounds flexible to me Unthing, without having to rewrite massive chunks of code for dynamic buff/debuff strengths too.

Make it so!

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it does sound good, perhaps a little too good?

mez protection, recharge and endurance discount? suddenly defenders are going to be pretty powerful as long as they let someone stay dead for a mission or so...

I have to say I'm surprised, particularly before lvl 20, that not a single person you ever teamed with died because you ran out of endurance.

I'll hold my hand up here and say, yes people died as I had no endurance - I certainly remember this from respec trials where no one ever had enough CABs to go around by the time we got half way through the reactor.

Also, I remember trying to do Positron. It was painful - there really wasn't enough of my endurance to go around. When I've gone back and exemped down with vigilance it was far easier endurance wise...

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Is it good to be "rewarding" you for doing badly though. And is the "reward" worth it?

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Perhaps it's not great that you are rewarded for doing your job badly... but in some ways that kind of works well in my head (conceptually). When the going gets tough for your team you put in that extra bit of effort and the adrenalin makes you feel like you have a little more stamina to get the job done.

I dunno, I suppose I never really considered too much whether the inherent was great or not... just been on teams where people have made jokey comments about it, I guess a bit like blasters make jokes of their inherent...

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Personally I think its an unbalanced power. For Kinetics its completely useless as with poor Sol. Empaths aren't usually overladen with End issues either. And FF are "precombat" orientated so End may not be an issue here either.

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I kinda disagree... I think all defenders benefit from vigilance between the lvls of 1 and 20ish (depending on when they either take stamina, a useful endurance regain power or get enough slots on their powers to have some handy end redux in there).

Some will then carry on benefiting slightly from this power as the game progresses, but since defending is really about the art of stopping your team taking much damage if you are doing a good job you won't notice the benefits as much or as often.

Saying that, my storm definitely benefits from someone getting hit a few times so I can throw out clouds for less.

woo, gratz Lobe

yeah vigilance is great!

When I'm playing my storm defender or my rad you will often hear me ask someone on the team to take some tactical damage so I can keep my toggles running

I don't find it totally useless on my Empath either... maybe because I am now playing a controller empath but when I go back to Psygon, my real empath, it's like a breath of fresh air to be so full of endurance all the time

One idea I sorta had about 3vP was to do with subs and peeps now showing up. Not sure if this would work but here we go...

Rather than have teams assigned each week players are assigned a letter A/B/C - each week people get reshuffled into these three groupings.

On fight night players turn up and stand in their grouping (all the A's, all the B's and all the C's).

The 3vp admins (i think we would maybe need 2 or 3) would then simply pick players from A B and C to form a team.

This carries on until there are not enuff people left to form a team and I assume anyone left over gets a 'By' for that week...

Would negate the need for subs as no teams are ever pre-arranged. And if you don't show you lose a life...

Might cause problems with all scrapper teams or something. I dunno, could it work, or is it too complicated?

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Team 4 - Eat Static, Red Hot Rock, White Phantom (sub'd for Soaring Dragon)

Beat

Team 6 - Storm Kitty (sub'd for Empath), Vamos (sub'd for Mighty Saguaro), SinghMC 10 - 9

So, so close! Great match.

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one of my fave matches so far. I thought Storm Kitty, Vamos and Singh had won was gobsmacked at the end when I saw my team had got through by 1 point.

Very, very fun. Thanks all for taking part (particularly the subs for jumping in and allowing the match to go on) and making me curse like I've never cursed before

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A good team, a good TF, a good saturday

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yup was a fun TF... thanks all those that took part

And to those people that then took part in a further TF on Saturday evening - was good fun as well.

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Team 4 v Team 6

Eat Static, Red Hot Rock, Soaring Dragon vs. Empath, Mighty Saguaro, SinghMC

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I am around this evening (ish), tomorrow evening, not saturday, sunday day time until about 6pm and then sunday evening from about 9.30pm UK Time

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Yeah basically the same, i will be on every evening so just gimme a /tell ingame and lets get it done.

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Around 6pm ish is a fab time on most weeknights for me - Sunday night is a no no, World Cup party (come on France!!!)

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how about for this match we say 7.30pm UK Time Monday 10th July?

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Indeed, looks like a good team.

As there are a few AVs to be had in this TF I am going to head into Bloody Bay and Warburg either Friday evening or Saturday morning to pick up some temp powers (not that I'm afraid or anything... honest). If anyone wants to join me just send me a global tell to @Psygon...

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btw, since they changed the AVs I can't see any point in the temp powers now... so don't think there is much point in struggling to get around bloody bay on foot with my tank just to get a shivan

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Team 4 v Team 6

Eat Static, Red Hot Rock, Soaring Dragon vs. Empath, Mighty Saguaro, SinghMC

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I am around this evening (ish), tomorrow evening, not saturday, sunday day time until about 6pm and then sunday evening from about 9.30pm UK Time

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Yeah basically the same, i will be on every evening so just gimme a /tell ingame and lets get it done.

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Around 6pm ish is a fab time on most weeknights for me - Sunday night is a no no, World Cup party (come on France!!!)

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6pm might be a little early for me, is there a chance of playing this later?

Woo, go Missy. Another well deserved 50.

Pleased I could be there for your ding

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Team 4 v Team 6

Eat Static, Red Hot Rock, Soaring Dragon vs. Empath, Mighty Saguaro, SinghMC

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I am around this evening (ish), tomorrow evening, not saturday, sunday day time until about 6pm and then sunday evening from about 9.30pm UK Time

oh, fiddlesticks, here you go and arrange Taskforce Saturday when I am signed up for a shadow Shard TF

The shard TF starts at 1pm so it *might* be finished but it *might* be not...

Can I jot my name down in scribble at the end of the list just incase I'm available?

Something special for the shard TFs sounds interesting though...

Gratz Alyssa, only teamed with you on that Shard TF - but it was fun!

Well done on getting there, hope it's the first of many for you

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thunder storm 3recharge/2acc/1dmg

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you really think the accuracy makes a difference??

maybe I should try that... 3 damage just seemed really good tho

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And I'd recommend taking the nuke instead of sentinel.

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I did have the nuke instead of the sentinel at one point but found it really annoying dropping all my toggles when I fired off nuke, so respecced it out pretty quick... It's probably just personal preference but I know I was definitly very much in favour of keeping all my toggles running