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Quote:Ditto...Originally Posted by _Shenku_
If I gotta pick between more content, and Ultra Mode, I'm going with more content all the way.
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You're lucky I gave you a discount!
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Quote:And I am aware of this...Originally Posted by Shard_Warrior
Not a big deal for me either since I just PL my alts into the late 20's miniumum. You or I and how we play do not represent every player though, so assuming it is "no big deal" for you does not mean it isn't for others. Not every player has the Vet pet you have to help with END recovery.
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Quote:I am hardly new the game and aware that different powersets/ATs use END differently. So, I still can't see how it is "broken" or being "crippled".Originally Posted by Shard_Warrior
Depending on the AT and Powersets, END issues can be radically different. As an example, my MA/SR toons were slotted with nothing (both offense and defense) but END Reduction DOs from 12 to 22 and that toon was a wind sucking pig until SOs and fully slotted stamina. My MA/Regen was an entirely different story.
The game has changed (like tweaks to END for sets) and offers many more tools (like combining inspir/IOs/etc.) as well as patrol XP and the XP leveling changes to make it go faster. This game is already easy enough.
So we struggle a little early on. Look at what toons can do later. It's really not that big a deal. -
Always got my support Iggy!
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Eh, never seen an issue with this so-called gulch. I can't see how it is broken or being crippled or whatever you are trying to get at.
I bring more blues (combine inspriations) or drop my vet pet or take on mobs more slowly and rest more often; or even adjust miss difficulty.; or team with a kin or a team in general and XP faster? With the bonuses to XP at those levels and patrol XP, you can get by them fast enough. The game offers ways to "fix" this. If you choose to not use them, it isn't a game issue.
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WOOOHOOOO! Grats Chad!!!
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Quote:Borrowing Aett Thorn's reply, this is what I thought you were saying.Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
Basically, you're asking for the same set, but without any KB in it, which would then need to be replaced with more Acc, or EndRed, or some other effect.
Again, I want to ask:
With some bolded text.Quote:Don't you think that this was taken into account when the set was designed with its bonuses to make them attractive/desirable?
Edit - Forgot to add, why not stop here? I can think of other sets where I want some other bonus, but still want to keep the IO set bonuses. They do it for this set and suddenly players will want changes all over to min/max their frankenslotting builds.
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Now I am too scared to reply to this thread any more!
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Voo, you already know response.
I wish I could continue, but Tuesdays are looking if-y for me starting in March. They use to be my best time to play.
If you do get a group going then and need an extra or have room, just send a tell. Between my Mar/Apr schedule and trips planned in June/July, I won't be free until later this summer.
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Quote:Dang...Originally Posted by VoodooCompany
I'll swing it any way you want. Just for you.
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Another thing to blame Voo for.
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So what is the issue being addressed?
It is constantly mentioned the game is balanced around SOs.
IOs are optional, let alone IO sets with bonuses. If I am reading this right, you want the bonuses of an IO set, but not what else the IOs also bring, KB in this case.
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Quote:I remember Sarrate posting on this way back. The orange (aka yellow) tower does give Mag protection.Originally Posted by Kahlan_
Does the yellow tower on the STF give recluse psi defense? (In particular I'm thinking about mesmerize)
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Quote:And that's exactly what it comes down too.Originally Posted by Biospark
The question of solo speed comes down to how fast YOU (each individual) is patient enough to deal with.
Is there truly any AT and/or powerset combo that can NOT solo at +0/1 setting?
If every AT and/or powerset combo can solo at +0/1, isn't that the baseline for the game and WAI?
If there is an AT such as defender that can NOT solo at +0/1, then there is an issue that should be fixed/improved.
But coming out and saying "speed up soloing", I would like to hear compared to what and how much.
5% faster, 20% faster, 100%? At what point will make a player happy?
And where does that make defenders - the same as controllers or corruptors? Better than blasters, but not as good as scrappers?
Would tankers complain that they want to solo faster now too? Or Khelds?
And lastly, what would a player sacrifice for this increased soloing speed unless they are implying this would be a free buff based on no data/proof/etc.? -
Quote:So still no numbers on soloing speed or what a baseline is? What diff setting? Keep avoiding the questions I guess or providing any rationale, proof, data to support your position. Defenders solo just fine "I think", especially when they take out orange con EBs. A +0/1 mission is easy.Originally Posted by KaliMagdalene
When I solo my defenders at +0/x1 and my tankers at +0/x1, the tankers are always faster. The tankers can also solo at higher levels against larger numbers of mobs. I'm not saying that defenders need to solo against larger spawns at higher levels (and I'm sure some powersets can), but I think defenders could use a bit more soloing speed.
Ice melee needed a buff for a very long time. Using an underperforming set to set up a straw man is silly. -
Quote:Crazy as in it is bad to have a different/opposite view? Would it be easier just to accept whatever is posted?Originally Posted by EricHough
You are exactly one of those folks that drive me crazy.
The answer is yes. I view defenders best attribute is their contributions in teams from their primaries. From what I have seen in my playing the game for 5+ years too and reading is the forums is the devs don't give things for free unless they felt something wasn't working as envisioned (aka stalker/blaster changes). So buffing a defender's solo ability would be balanced with something. And since it can't be from our secondary, since that is low enough, it would come from our primaries, which I feel is our best attribute. If the devs give a buff with no nerf, I definitely will be happy since I love my playing my defenders and will be making more.Quote:if you can answer yes to this question then we are cool -
Quote:Not all ATs can solo AVs either. So defenders are like other ATs. If a defender can take EBs down, what challenge is 3 mins or 2 mins/1 Lt.? Just what difficulty are you talking here? I solo with one of my MM's at +4/8. But my scrapper was +2/4. Just where on the scale are we for defenders? Again, asking for some numbers here.Originally Posted by KaliMagdalene
Well, not all defenders can solo AVs, so there's that.
I cried with tears soloing my ice/ice tank, especially against healing foes like Tsoo or Freakshow. My D3 had no issues soloing. My experience must be telling me that defenders must be better than tanks...really?Quote:And I think it was already discussed that defenders can solo in relative safety, just fairly slowly. However, my D3 solos more slowly than my Ice/Stone tanker, and isn't as safe.
Issue 4...how does that apply now with IOs, change in diff settings, dual builds, or even a temp like a shivan? Would it be the same or are the devs bringing us back to I4?Quote:I worked on soloing Chimera on my D3 way back in issue 4, and I can't even begin to describe how long that process took before I gave up. It was well over 5 minutes, though, and I had to keep a tray full of break frees (or whatever we had in those days) because he has a sleep or hold or some such thing, and losing all my toggles was not helping.
I will ask again for some clarity on soloing speed.
What is the base line here - scrapper speed? Blaster speed? Controller? Another AT? What about after GR - should we adjust to MM, stalker, dom, VEAT speeds? Please shine some light on what soloing speed is.
What about power sets - fire/kin contr vs grav/ff? DM/regen scrapper vs. spines/WP scrapper?
And so what on speed. Say it takes 100 hr (*made up number*) for a scrapper to solo to 50. And a defender takes 120 hr or even 150 hr. What difference does it make? -
Quote:Can defenders solo? YesOriginally Posted by EricHough
When discussing general solo abilities I find that argueing that the ability to solo an AV proves that an AT is a 'decent' soloer is somewhat of a strawman. The ability to build something that can take out a single hard target does not prove that the same AT or even the same character can play general solo content at any decent speed, especially as most AV solo builds are either heavily IO'ed or rely on inspirations, temp powers, veteran powers, etc.
Now, I am glad that there are folks who find the current solo abilities of defenders to be adequate - I think they suck. I also don't understand why everyone is so vehemently against anything that will help a defenders solo speed - as long as the changes don't also make the defender MORE effective in a group I see no problem with it.
The only defenders I have (on two different accounts played heavily on two different servers) are a couple of Kin defenders that I basically use as buffbots when I am in the mood to dual box. I have been trying to like defenders since the game first came out as there are several character concepts I have that work best as defenders but every time I try to play one, even the most solo capable, the true suckiness of a defender's solo speed just drives me away again.
So, until something is done to improve the ability of defenders to solo I will pretty much continue on as I have - avoiding defenders blueside and when GR comes out I will bring my corruptors over and laugh at the poor defenders who are begging for groups. (ok ok - a bit of hyperbole there as I don't really wish anyone bad luck with the game and I hope for the sake of those who love the current defenders that they don't get the short end of the stick after GR comes out - but the way some of you fight ANY change to defenders drives me a little crazy).
Can players use tools in the game to improve their solo efficiency? Yes
Are there ATs that can solo more efficiently? Yes
Do you have information on what solo speed and efficiency are supposed to be?
The sky is not falling for defenders after GR.
When people like the devs say that defenders are the most balanced AT, just what data/proof/etc. is there to show they need to be changed? And if they are changed, at what cost to maintain balance? Or are you saying the devs will give a free buff to the AT?
To clarify my position, I love defenders and what they do for teams. I will posts against ideas like this if it means nerfing the greatest part of being a defender - their contributions to a team. I am aware of their sacrifice soloing, but I work within the game (temps/IOs/etc.) to make soloing better. -
Quote:What challenge is there if you can solo AVs? 3 mins? 5 mins? Would you like to ever provide some proof or data yourself?Originally Posted by KaliMagdalene
Soloing an AV doesn't mean you can solo at a reasonable pace.
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Quote:But, but, but Adeon Hawkwood...are you telling me now defenders are like the other ATs already?Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Not a particularly useful one though. A lot of ATs can solo AVs or GMs. In fact off the the top of my head I can recall examples from all ATs except Tanks and the EATs (and I'm pretty sure that most of the EATs can I just can't recall examples).
That can't be!!! I mean we were told in this very thread:
And some are looking for faster ways to solo. Now defenders are just like the others? I am so confused here.Quote:They do underperform to the point of near failure for soloing. All AT are supposed to be able to solo. -
Quote:You can:Originally Posted by KaliMagdalene
I would simply like something that speeds up soloing.
1) Roll an AT suited for soloing (aka Scrapper) instead of a rolling a team-based AT
2) Roll a synergizing combo (like dark/dark or kin/son)
3) Use dual builds to remove ally only powers, increase attacks, and slot attacks more heavily
4) Take power pools
5) Slot IOs, in particular sets
6) Adjust mission difficulties so you don't have to fight Bosses or AVs
7) Get temps like Shivans and WB Nukes
8) Log off the toon and build up Patrol XP
If you are choosing not to use the tools the game gives you, you can always team. This is an MMO and, although solo-FRIENDLY, it is not solo-REQUIRED.
Also, if you asking for speeding up soloing, how fast?
Same as a stone/stone tank in granite form?
As fast as a grav/FF controller with out a pet?
A spines/regen scrapper?
Where are you drawing the line here?
There is even a post of a video showing a defender soloing an orange con EB. If that solo defender can solo an EB, what are mins, Lts, or even bosses? -
Hmmm, is Voo secretly Posi?
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Quote:Ditto. I don't see what the problem is fighting them. One of the few challenges left in the game that gives a team pause.Originally Posted by Twilight_Snow
I like the nasty cysts though.
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I wouldn't call it weird. For one, this could be like a little getaway for Posi, where he can have fun messing around and designing new content - away from all the big decision kind of stuff. Maybe when he is done, they will switch around again. Or he could move on to another game entirely and he is hanging around to help WW transition. All kinds of thoughts.
MG - I would think there would never be a true "end game" for an MMO game. The devs got to keep making something to keep us coming back. GR could be the first parts of the end game to build on.
Just rambling now until my coffee kicks in - mmmmm, coffee...