Peacemoon

I fully reccomend Ragnarok: Chance for Knockdown, in Crushing Field. Since Gravity is one of the only sets to have a spammable AoE Immobilize without knockback protection, it works wonders.

You guys ever thought about forming a team together? ;-)

Yeah I did this on a recent Fire/. I think Local just means that it is a bit sketchy until Hot Feet is properly slotted, and Char and Ring of Fire aren't great attacks either. New player would probably struggle a lot until SO's.

This is not a criticism really Local Man, but everytime you say Mind solos slowly at high level compared to others, it makes me wish I could upload some videos and give you examples of the great killing speed of Mind and how wrong you are. Then again, it also makes me doubt myself and wonder if its purely because my character is super slotted.

Still, I think of Mesmerize, Leviate, Dominate, Terrify and your AoE APP of choice slotted for damage really will give a lot of the other control sets a huge run for their money. Especially depending on what secondary you choose.

Compared to Ice, Earth and Electric I personally think Mind is still far superior even with pets included.

Compared to Gravity I think Mind still has the edge even with singularity. Propel is a long activation (although good damage). Lift is low damage compared to Levitate. Crush takes 9s to deal its damage unlike Mind's powers which are all instant damage and no DoT. So it doesnt have the smooth attack chain that Mind offers, and it doesn't have an AoE attack like Terrify before APP's.

Plant I don't really have the experience to say as I played Plant as Dom, which isn't a fair comparison, but it will seem to rely much more on confuse damage.

Illusion and Fire I will give you, although Mind does outperform them at low level.


Why I keep making this point is I honestly feel because Mind does not have a pet there is a stigma which in my experience is unjustified. Having played the set aslong as I have maybe I am just able to leverage it in ways people new to it simply cannot.

Anyway again this is not a criticism, I am just wondering why I have such a great experience soloing with Mind at both high and low level, but it never seems to reflect on the forums.

I think you are seriously wrong here.

Confused enemies for all intents and purposes are held. Okay, they may not be immobilized which can possibly be problematic, but by confusing them you are still completely disarming them. A confused boss will stand there and take a beating and not retaliate. If you are lucky, he might even buff/heal you while you do so. If you are luckier, he will have 3-4 pets/pseubopets which will all be confused as well.

The only thing that holds have that confuse does not is that it offers containment and like you already mentioned, immobilizes the enemy. :-)

Remember that when the game launched Mass Confusion was the only AoE confuse in the game. (Well apart from Artic Air, but that went largely under the radar early on and is a PBAE Toggle.)

Given that setting, having an AoE Confuse as a T9 power was a huge thing. It can single handedly destroy a whole spawn in one application. It was hugely powerful back then when the game was much harder. In my opinion, it still deserves its 4 minute cooldown. For Mind Controller's these days who have good global recharge, it is easy to get Total Domination and Mass Confusion down to a 90s recharge, and then its not often you don't have one or the other available.

What I do think however is over time the Devs have forgotten how powerful Confuse really is. If you called it "Charm" it would perhaps get the credit and fame it deserves. You aren't just taking an enemy out of the fight, you are making them think you are their ally and that their friends are actually their enemy. They then use their potentially powerful powers to either aid you (I had 6 stacks of Accelerate Metabolism the other day, fun) or destroy whatever you are fighting. It also lasts a lot longer then holds and stuns in any power it features, and almost as long as sleeps. Which in my head is strange because it is so obviously more powerful then them. I always felt the only reason Mass Confusion was allowed to be so powerful and have such a long duration was because it was a T9 power that was placed instead of a pet. I know that this game isn't exactly known for being perfect with numbers, but I honestly feel that someone forgot all these facts when they went to make other confuse powers.

So my response to "Mass Confusion has too long a recharge" is actually that Mass Confusion has very perfect and balanced numbers considering where it is and the set as a whole. It is other powers which have unreasonably overpowered numbers for what they do. Numbers that were taken without much thought in my opinion. "Confuse has a longer duration then stuns and holds...just because it always has."

Of course I am not going to start the "Why is confuse overpowered?" debate because I think that boat has long since sailed, and I would hate for one of my favourite control sets to be caught in the crossfire if the devs ever go gunning for Seeds. Still, as a logical man, and with the assumption that Confuse > Hold > Stun > Immobilize, the numbers just don't make sense to me and never had.

I know this going slightly off topic but I believe we answered the original question anyway. :-)

I've used that one a few times myself, but then I love my mythology ;-)

Seems like people are overlooking the information Cantatus has already posted.

This explanation sounds most plausible.

Having moved a character from Hero to Villain I can agree that SOME Vigilante missions leave a bit to be desired, for the reasons you suggested. Some of them are pretty good though, but others you just feel like your character must be stupid to do attack it in that way, but you end up clicking the Vigilante option anyway because thats the overall goal you are working towards.

I do like the Hero options though, they usually always end up with "You rescued the hostages and saved the day, but the baddie villain got away." Classic ;-)

I think you are playing the wrong game if you think melee are penalized. 99% of the game is much easier for our status immune, self sufficient friends. You should try soloing an AV or EB with a squishy, might open your eyes. I can take out EB's easily with Peacemoon, but that is only by relying on /Storm, since they are usually flat out immune to all Control for the majority of the time.

I kind of disagree with this due to the fact you can name them, talk through them and give them personality with the use of emotes.

The only problem is you can't customize them, which you should. And you don't aways summon a person with the same face/hair features if you are playing thugs/mercs, which again you should be able to dictate.

Yep, and it is nice to see knockback have some real use. Was loving Propel while killing these.

Oh please, we can't make criticisms now without resorting to this? Sounds like you should be nursing your own puppy. Maybe you could buy a booster pack for it while you're there.

I called it...wish I hadn't though.

Once upon a time new emotes were part of an issue. These could have gone live with i18 and/or GR, instead they hold them back and make us pay for them. Open your eyes.