Paladin_Musashi

Those days were already over. With AE boss farms there was no need for fillers. There was no need for bridges to get people to high level quickly.

I have not once gotten a request to fill or bridge since I started playing the post-AE game. Not once.

As opposed to the 10 times a day (Minimum) I used to get them.

I understand the need to lure farmers out into the regular game, because there are no purples on the market because no one is farming them...

But lowering the XP rewards from the AE won't accomplish that. Won't even have an effect on it, actually. The reason all the farmers are in the AE is because tickets and reward rolls provide an awesome and consistent inf/time ratio. Farmers farm for inf.

So unless they nerf the value of tickets, or the rate at which they can be obtained, AE farming won't be affected. Except that they'll be running their farms by themselves instead of running with teams.

Which makes the game less fun.

With the new change coming in i16 that lets you gain experience while exemplared you can level all the way to 50 off level 20 mobs if you want.

They should though. It will still be TOTALLY possible to PL newbies with the new changes. In fact, it'll be easier (Since I can set missions for 8, and only bring the newbie I'm going to be PLing, which makes up for the fact that I'm not fighting nothing but bosses anymore, and the missions will actually go very fast). All it does is make farmers and PLers less likely to actually team, like normal people. It doesn't hurt their business in the slightest. It just takes them out of the team game. And completely destroys the AE as a place where you could fight a wider variety of enemies than are out in the "normal game".

So PLing won't be affected, farming won't really be affected, but the game becomes less fun.

I'm gonna be taking my BS/Regen, DB/WP, or some other lethal damage inflicting scrapper and farming a Vahz mission set for level 5 difficulty and 8 man spawn to level alts on my other account all the way to 50, TBH.

Oh, and I'll be doing it in the AE, since Vahz are standard mobs, and therefore won't be hurt by the AE nerfs (Although a Vahz boss farm would be soooo tasty...), which means I'll be able to do it blueside and redside with equal ease.

So good job devs, you haven't discouraged farming at all... You've just made me a soloer again.

When you consider that the per-kill is lower, you don't get patrol XP, and there's no mission completion award? Yeah, it's that bad.

I mean, running AE maps with minion/lt/boss cherry picked from an existing faction will still be fine. But custom mobs? Yeah, it'll be so bad no one will touch it. Which is really irritating to me.

Funny. From a quick look over the board, any time anyone complains about an XP nerf, or a a change intended to discourage farming (Which is so counterproductive it's ridiculous...), at least 5 people (Usually the same people) jump in immediately with replies along the lines of "Quit powerleveling and play the game!" or "If you're concerned with numbers you're doing it wrong!"

I fight fires in Steel too.

The real problem is that no matter that the forum police give the impression that the majority of players don't play just for XP by shouting down everyone else... The fact is the opposite. The vast majority of players are influenced by rewards. Significantly. To the point that if this change goes through the only way you'll be able to play the AE missions is solo. Because good luck trying to find anyone to join your team.

Wow, seriously? I'd heard about the all boss mission xp changes, but that's even more ridiculous.

Look, I know all you "Play the real game!" content whiners are pissy that so many of us are playing the AE and not out there giving you teammates for your precious "normal content" (Which mostly blows, to be honest. Yes, I said it.) but the AE is vastly more fun for me. I play this game to be a superhero beating up bad guys. Nothing more, nothing less. The AE is more fun than the rest of the game because I don't have to run around zones I don't care about, do fedex missions for obnoxious, arrogant, useless Freedom Phalanx members, or anything else that gets in the way of what I play for: Fighting.

The combat in this game is the game for me. Why can't people understand that?

Honestly, I think it's bad enough that they're nerfing boss farms. And you can ***** about how I'm a powergamer all you want, how I'm leveling too fast, or anything else. I don't care. The reason I don't like the change is that all boss missions are about the only thing in the game that's challenging enough to be fun in an 8 man group.

Switching to factions with minions and LTs means I might as well just set my difficulty to view me as an 8 man team and run it solo. Seriously.

So you're ruining my fun. I know I'll still be able to run 8 man boss farms if I want to, and just not get much experience. I know you'll hold that up as a reason why it's not a bad change, and I'm just whining. But you're completely ignoring how hard it will be to actually find 8 people willing to do so for basically no experience, inf, or tickets.

As it stands now, AE farming is a very egalitarian practice (Though there are probably still some idiots on Freedumb who are farming filled missions... Glad I don't play there). You can walk in to the AE building at level 1 and get on a team with 50s. Because the exp and rewards are good enough that no one cares if they have someone too low to really contribute much. And hell, you'll be level 20 in an hour anyway, and can help then.

After the change it'll go back to being an elitist practice like the old days of farming before the AE. Even with all the changes they're talking about, they won't get rid of it, or even slow the really hardcore farmers down. They'll just have them return to not teaming with anyone but other leet level 50 farmers. And that's sad.

The change to custom mob experience is a horrible, horrible idea. Half the fun of the AE is fighting all these custom mobs. I mean, for people like me for whom the fighting (Which is, let's face it, the only real gameplay in this game) is the point of the game, the variety of things you can fight in the AE is a huge part of what makes it so awesome. Making a change that discourages people from fighting anything that isn't already a standard mob somewhere else in the game is stupid. The devs are idiots to do that.

And to all those of you who whine about how I and others like me are not out there in the "real game" playing through the dull and tedious content with you, and begging the devs to force us to do so: **** YOU. You are ruining my game.

Well, like I said, my build had constraints. Those constraints were that it MUST have the Fitness, Speed, and Medicine pools. That it be soft capped. That it have perma-hasten.

Your build would not work properly without Combat Jumping, which I literally cannot squeeze into my build. If I give up the Armageddons in Foot Stomp I lose an entire 10% recharge, which is a bit too much considering I'm already relying on the FF +recharge proc to push hasten that extra 9 seconds into perma-land.

You can't really compare the two builds because yours isn't bound by the constraints mine is. I have a self-heal, you don't.

I do appreciate the tip on the membrane exposures however.

Interestingly, when I load your toon from the datablock, it shows you are above the caps, but when loaded from the post body, it shows you slightly below. I wonder why that is...

I will say I'd never take Electrifying fences on an SS Brute... The knockdown in your moves is too big a part of your mitigation to use a root that prevents knockdown.