Ostrakon

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Whether or not we agree or disagree with how the devs handle content and balance issues, I think everyone can agree how lucky we are to have a dev team who actually does their best to keep us informed on what they plan to do.

Thanks for everything, guys.

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Um, wow... thanks NCSoft. Major QoL improvements for the vast majority of the non-forum goers with the release of the info.

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A few things I noticed:

Not slotting your holds for hold duration? That's a pretty big no-no.

Your attacks should not be slotted "2-3" damage. They should be slotted for THREE, period. Especially since you advocate not taking the blaps, only having 2 dam in your attacks makes you pretty gimped.

I think JRanger's comments were the ounce of prevention, concerning stupid ideas getting to the forum. Too bad we needed about 6 metric tons of prevention, and the Mods seem to think that this new policy is the cure, even though it's just a syringe full of hot air.

It's like an episode of House. Kidneys will fail, the infection will get worse, and when the patient's almost dead, we're going to find out that JRanger was what we really needed in the first place.

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The fact that he replied to every single gorram suggestion with "no" and did his best to be the first reply in there is proof in itself. He got more persistent at it the more people bugged him about it. How can you possibly believe that was anything BUT an active effort to get a rise out of people?

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I think that was far less annoying than the 5 consecutive "POWER CUSTUMIZASHUN" threads. JRanger was amusing, but most of the people getting /JRangered were annoying.

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Heck, if you want disparity fixed, give the villains sewers.

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Yes; having recently transferred my main Villain to Virtue (in an effort to improve my ability to team with the folks I'm on a Global with - none of them had high level ANYthing on Infinity, where my MM was made) ... I've been lurking the Virtue boards to see if I wanted to start yammering at you lot.

And I watched, unhappily, as those threads were ruthlessly stomped-upon. 8(

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We've been getting modslapped (and actually specifically insulted by LightHouse in one case) for a good while now. That's a lot of why our forums are quickly degenerating into PWNZ jr.

That said, the PWNZ forum is pretty amusing so I'm not sure if that's a bad thing.

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Specifically insulted by Lighthouse? Intriguing, how so?

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Has the suggestions forum always been in the "for fun" section (since they reordered the forums, I rarely read suggestions anymore - too far down in the list)? /yes and /no answers are acceptable to me on this one

Storm

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Nope, just recentlly got moved there, presumably for infractions of the nature being discussed here.

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I change which I think is particularly demeaning. Now, even the good suggestions are "just for fun."

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What people need to understand is that it doesn't matter how I told you my opinion.

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But it does. It always matters. Humans are not machines. We don't filter out the essence of a message and ignore the manner in which it was delivered.

On an anonymous internet forum, you can avoid most of the consequences of being rude, but not all of them. Maybe some people will put you on /ignore, and then they won't be able to help you out when you have a question later. Maybe you'll be banned from the forums for a while. No big deal, really.

Whether you are rude or polite matters only to the extent that other people matter. As it happens, other people matter a lot.

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I'm rude IRL too, and I don't suffer too many consequences from it, save the frustrated, vein-popping faces of morons who can't refute my argument on a logical basis, and are forced to adopt the "You're so mean, your point is invalid!"




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The less anonymity you have, the more consequences you'll suffer for being rude. Waiters will spit in your food; strangers won't hold elevator doors for you; acquaintances won't become friends; police officers won't let you off with a warning; employer's won't hire you; bosses won't promote you.

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Waiters already spit in the food of people who aren't mean. Why should I care about that, when the chances of actually getting a disease from that are slim?

If a stranger won't hold an elevator door for me, I guess I'll just have to wait for the next one.

I don't care about actually making friends, because the majority of "acquaintances" are just maintaining a facade of friendliness, and aren't interested in making "friends" anyway. Besides, the friends I have now are the ones who can appreciate my disposition, without me having to modify it. If I have to pretend to be nice to make friends, are those people really my friends anyway? I should think not.

Police officers shouldn't be letting me off with a warning anyway.

I'm not going to respect an employer who won't hire me because he thinks my realistic worldview somehow overshadows my outstanding skills in my profession. Same goes for promotions. Contrary to what they teach impressionable idiots in management school, most employers care much more about your skills than they do about your personality. Any employer who succumbs to some moron who skated through college with a 2.0, but is nothing but a suck-up in a nice suit doesn't deserve to have me as his employee.

Being nice doesn't matter in real life unless you make it matter. It's nothing but a crutch, and you're not very intelligent if you expect everyone else to return your niceness.

What matters is fact. What matters (in this case) is that "/no" and even "/jranger" are perfectly valid answers, because somebody only posted his or her stupid idea because they ignored the stickies in the suggestion forum. They really don't deserve any elaboration, save for "/no, read the stickies"

And when this moron goes and reports my "/no" to the mods, I shouldn't be getting warned for being such a Negative Nancy. If anyone needs to be warned, it should be the person who posted the suggestion in the first place, and the Mods should warn them to lurk moar before they post something stupid.

But nay, we must coddle the new players. We can't alienate the new crowd! They're clearly more important than the people who have been playing for years.

It's a good thing CoX is such a good MMO, because this new attitude towards the boards is making me sick.

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I find it depressing and disheartening that there are people that think it's acceptable to be rude as long as there is no rule against it.

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I think it's moronic to think that a person is required to be polite. What *you* deem rude may very well be a well-deserved thrashing.

What people need to understand is that it doesn't matter how I told you my opinion. Just because I was rude or brusque doesn't make your idea any less crappy.

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It's about time we have some constructive discussion going without worrying that your thread have its faults pointed out by realistic people who have seen your crappy suggestion a thousand times before, but you didn't bother to read any of the suggestion stickies or use the search function because you just needed to sit at the keyboard, typing about how desperately you wanted AWSUM BEEST MEN PETS FOR MMS.

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Fixed that for ya.

I just got a radical freakin' idea.

If you don't like the way people are responding to your idea, out them on Ignore! That way, the next time you come up with a crappy idea that everyone's already heard before, the only replies that will ever get through are the ones that praise you as the second coming of Christ, heralding your presence as a precursor to a pervasive dimensional shift to a world where unicorns fart rainbows and pee maple syrup.

And we can put YOU on Ignore. And everyone's happy.

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/RJanger

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Your post is made of win and lulz.

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Part 2 - /yes vs. /no

this is comparing apples to oranges.

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Both round, both fruits, both sweet. Terrible analogy, really.

The mods are favoring apples hugely, and I don't think Floridians are going to appreciate this much.

Here's an idea. Let's just wordfilter the word "no" to:

Your idea is bad. If you use the search function, you'll find out why.

This entire thing just feels like they're trying to secure the new players who are getting alienated by the vets who have heard their crappy and/or unlikely/impossible ideas 100 times before. Yeah, you're getting shot down, but if you took a look at the field, there are quite a few Anti-Aircraft guns that should have taken into account before you started barrel-rolling.

If people would actually read the suggestion board stickies, this wouldn't be an issue.

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If you're goin to disagree with the premise, you have to provide the reasons because they have not already been presented. Simply posting "No" doesn't do that.

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I think I'm just gonna start posting, "I do not like this idea" That should get the point accross. [censored] whiners. I don't owe you, or anybody else and explanation for anything.

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It's only a matter of time before someone throws that on the list too. I really hope this kind of enforcement is temporary.

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well, you just probably lost a lot of people for this stupid policy. so glad you decided to make all the babies feel all warm and fuzzy by not allowing a simple no or yes reply.

good job

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QFT.

Honestly, most of those posts are made for a good reason, ESPECIALLY with all the "READ THIS FIRST" stickies in suggestions.

Next time I need to go fight an AV, will you get a Dev to come with me and hold my hand?

This isn't a guide. It's a build.