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Saying Human attacks are better or equal because you can slot them full of procs doesn't address the true debate. You can do the same thing in a Nova blast and get higher base damage in addition to the proc damage. Add to that the faster recharge, to hit bonus and superior range and it's not a contest.

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If you did that slotting in nova form you'd be gimping yourself since

1. not taking advantage of your range.
2. You have higher base dmg in nova form so slotting out with a set or maximizing dmg enhancements make more sense.
3. nova bolt is slower then gleaming bolt (which is where the proc slotting shines over regular slotting)

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As for the question about Dwarf...you get higher resistance values, a -range power, a huge amount of HP, and a heal that recharges quickly and provides a similar level of healing as does Essence Boost - all for the price of one power. That's how it is superior to "just" human form.

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All for the price of one power but for the price of what? 18 slots? To get similar res from human form taking tough puts you at the exact same resistance. The heal is nice, i agree. -range is good, but if you have to switch forms to do dmg, makes it impractical.

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Play how and what you want. All human is fun for you; go with it. I personally like having the 3 forms available and know how to use them in a given situation.

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sounds like your takin it personal. relax. i'm just sayin human form only works, might not be your cup of tea, but to discredit the notion and say its gimp, let me reverse that and say maybe you dont know how to use human form well enough in any situation.

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-Nova form. The amount of damage you can dish out in Nova form puts human form damage to shame. Quick recharging blasts that have huge range vs. decent melee attacks and mediocre (short) ranged attacks? Nova will win every time.

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I cycle bolt and blast slotted:

1 Apoc Chance for Neg
1 Glad Jav Chance for Tox
1 Lady Grey chance for Neg
1 Shield Break chance for SM
2 nucleos

and

1 Velocity Strike Chance for SM
1 Glad Jav Chance for Tox
1 Lady Grey chance for Neg
1 Shield Break chance for SM
2 nucleos

Just like neutrino bolt, this slotting hits hard and i believe is unresistable.

IS slotted 3 Mako 1 nucleo 1 melee purple proc 1 hold purple proc

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Since DR kicked in, Dwarf isn't nearly as robust as it used to be. You could really take a beating in Dwarf before, but with DR the resistances are in the neighborhood of 45%, which helps a bit, but nothing near what it used to be. Additionally, escaping with Dwarf TP isn't an option any longer. I still have it for the heal and additonal HP.

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What's good about dwarf if human form can give you the same resistance (at 39% without tough) and better attacks?

if i had at least the HP accolades i would be inclined to say, "come get some" in the arena in a duel, but for now....lolzones is fine til i get them.

what do you consider gimp? if my powers are doin basically the same amount of dmg that my corrupters do, with eventually 2200hp, built in heal, phase and fly with a great amount of kb and mezz resistance. dont see how that's considered gimp.

2 dmg/rng
1 dmg/mez
AA - acc/rech
AA - Stun/Rech
AA- Acc/Stun/Rech

i've just taken my build and made human form only. just so i dont need to waste time switchin from form to form. As human form only my play style is that of any squishy, though a lil squishier....I might look into getting tough just for the added resistance...I dont see a benefit of -range when you got to go back into anoher form to use your best powers by then it will have wore off. i've gone the proc route for the first two blast powers and have slotted just like how i have slotted for rad blast to give it the extra punch it needs. also tried to maximize kb and mezz resist bonuses.

really need to find out what you get for stayin a villain and what you get for switchin.

secondly....i think when Going Rogue releases you will not pick Create a Hero or Create a villain anymore in the character creation menu. You pick your AT and powers, and the content you do decides what you will be, hero or villain or farmer.

I think this was decided when they got that "tree"/choices tech.

Or they might just start that from Lvl 50. At which point doing the content decides what you are hero or villain or farmer. since there was speculation that you will not be able to increase your character further, without doing the actual content (just like patron pools).

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Let me preface this post by saying i'm not disagreeing that defenders sit far below doms when it comes to pvp.

However if we're looking at buffing classes for pvp I think that Widows/Fortunatas need loving more then defenders do. I'm kind of biased because my main and character I play most is a fortunata, but lets compare...

PvP Base Damage at lvl 50

Defender Psi Blast
Mental Blast - 97.53
Subdue - 102.05
TK Blast - 80.10
Dominate - 102.1

Fortunata
Mental Blast - 97.53
Subdue - 106.56
TK Blast - 75.59
Dominate - 84.05

While you guys are complaining about defender damage, fortunatas actually do LESS.



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I will atest to this.

I have a fort with 67% damage bonus. 117% if i pop aim. my most powerful attack is lol Poison Darts and it only hits for 134!!!! with 117% dmg bonus and 103% dmg slotting. Everything else hits for 110 or lower with 117% dmg bonus. tested against res capped squishy. which everyone pretty much is.

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Again I answer this...
The new garbage pvp nerfs ruined the defenders usefulness as healer/buffers.... Have you seen any in pvp? I havent seen 1 in weeks. Ever hear of DR? it has taken AT's uniquness AWAY!

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what server are you on? im up for a challenge. live/on test?

actually the only defenders that need some love are TA's and maybe sonic.....with slows being what they are and everyone at resist cap....they have no way to defend themselves or dont bring anything new to the table.

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My rad psy and my stormie both do fine.

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So do my dark/ice and rad/psi.....i'd actually like to see a dark/rad.....

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I have 3 lvl 50 defender's. Match up a defender & dom in pvp see who wins, the dom will kill the defender in 2 sec's.

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BS. My results dont show this. I've even been able to kill a pain dom MM with an lol dark/ice defender in an arena duel. I've beaten and stalemated psi/em's, lol'd at regens, If anyone wants to duel I'd be happy to obliged. The only thing i have trouble with is TK + DP, or TK+KB or Elec/Therms level end drain but even then the matches are really close or ties. i could take the easy route and just get TK and blackhole and have guaranteed ties, but that wouldnt be fun. And i would miss my 754 HP heals even with Heal Decay on. DR off? GL.lol.

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Make PVP IO drops only drop in rated matches. With a greater percentage to drop against foes of closer rating or even just for winning. And then adjust that percentage for chance to drop against people who's rating's are extremely far apart. Then make rated matches blind registration/entrance, so you dont know what you are fighting and so that you can not farm yourself because the system places you in the match and does not let you pick your opponent. ......PROBLEM SOLVED.

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this would be nice iff the arena was cross server. did you steal it from another game? it sounds familiar for some reason.

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I think it's the norm for any xbox live game...cant pick who you fight in rated matches.

Make PVP IO drops only drop in rated matches. With a greater percentage to drop against foes of closer rating or even just for winning. And then adjust that percentage for chance to drop against people who's rating's are extremely far apart. Then make rated matches blind registration/entrance, so you dont know what you are fighting and so that you can not farm yourself because the system places you in the match and does not let you pick your opponent. ......PROBLEM SOLVED.

Player kill, was the same lowly couple hundred inf.

When did this go thru because in RV last night....i was getting inf and got a platinum drop.

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acrobatics, psychic scream/shockwave for -recharge? and last point on force of nature?

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You definitely want acro. For the hold resistance and for anyone who doesnt have access to crazy KB.

Personally the rest I would get WoC just cuz purple confuse set is cheap.

Mind Probe to slot 4 makos for the bonuses, but leave this off your power tray.

PFF and TI....because well FoN doesnt do anything for you, thanks to freebee global resists and DR, and since you will have a miracle and numina you wont need the end recovery it gives and takes.

last one....up to you....swift just because, veng to slot with a bonus...

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three slot health and put the panacea proc in it that with the miracle and numina and pef shifter will mean no end worries.

Perma hasten not so much you want to concentrate on dmg and acc. I agree Pff and TI from force. Subdual is crap. Slot it for bonuses only and leave it off your attack chain. Flares, Blast, Blaze, Snipe - Fireball sucks now in pvp.

use Kinetic crases in tk thrust. (kb resist 4slotted 7.5% recharge 6)

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How is subdual crap if it does more dmg then flares and doesnt stick you in that god awful animation flares puts you in, also since fire has no form of mezz....the subdue will actually stop them for a brief instant. subdues slow movement also allows for itself and another attack to land at the same time for burst.


so playing without a heal....hoarfrost isnt up fast enough and hiber is stalker food. frozen armor might as well not even turn on. with pff and ti,you wont need to heal as much since you'd have more resists....and pff is still a viable way to leave a fight unscathed...tho it's not as godly as it was before and is hit or miss depending on what you are fighting. never tried the regen route...but since you got dp getting 500% regen isnt hard. not sure how effective that would be in unison while in pff. can always bring greens.

you need to increase your dmg bonus to as close to 40% not including assault as possible....but that's just me.

If you cant get 45 kb protection....then there's really no need to waste money on getting 17. yer gonna get kb'd regardless.

i'd slot up subdue for dmg.

WoC is great for a 5 slot purple.

Fireball is meh. I'd put the snipe back in. it's possible to perform moving snipes for a finisher.

Kinetic Crash>Force Feedback

Stamina is over slotted. Pshifter+end is nice.

Scare is pointless especially since you do DoT and takes nearly 3 secs to activate.




Other notes:

Hibernate is nice but Frozen armor though is garbage.
PFF is OK but you can move and get healed by your teammates if you need to be. TI can nearly cap you on resistance.

Forum Troll was sick...best Mind/Rad controller ever.

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All you need from the mental is DP, TK thrust and the bu of course.

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if you are planning to build a toon with no bonuses sure.

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So yea, I bet Power Customization will be one of the big selling points of the upcoming expansion pack.

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You bet your bottom dollar it is going to be in that expansion pack.

4.) Character Creator 2.0 includes Powers Customization, allowing players to customize not only the character, but also the actual look of its powers

Everything from that leaked august 08 survey, has already happened or is coming to fruition....there's no reason not to believe that it's not.

And I bet the Going Rogue Comes out right around Champion's Release.

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You're right, but what Mid's doesn't factor in is the [censored] [censored] diminishing returns on your set bonuses and your defenses.

For example:

My fortunata has the following in PvE
Melee Defense - 65.2
Ranged Defense - 53.4
AOE Defense - 53.4

Now in PvP I have:
Melee Defense - 40.7
Ranged Defense - 36.15
AOE Defense - 36.15

See, a 1.5 billion dollar build reduced to [censored]!

Good luck with any defense AT in pvp, BTW that 10% elusivity, is crap and doesn't help a damn bit considering the loss of the defense percentages in my above comparison.

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wow i would cry too...if i spent 1.5 billion on that.

...how would a 200 million fort build with 80% range defense come out in pvp?

does the 80% range turn to crap?

Who's more powerful....Tyrant or Recluse, what would happen if they met?

chance for smashing dmg from one of the lower lvl slow sets(dunno name) is good to put in every ice attack.

why dont you just restrict everyone's powers, by making an imaginary rule like, no epic shields in matches...its been done already for cages, and veng, might as well throw epic shields to that list...haha.