Okton

If you want to take Blizzard (which as others have said, is quite good again now that's it's buffable) I would strongly suggest taking Ice Storm (slotted for slows and damage). And Frost Breath will be decent once you slot it with SOs.

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I might've been interested but :

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are you [censored] me? Thats when holland gets spanked!

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Edited for accuracy...

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Try a /ice blaster...they can tank quite easily...take on 8 minions couple of lts and a boss no problem.

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And that's before clicking on Force of Nature .

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Damn me for not conforming and planning on going for pyro mastery this time.

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Although to be fair to tanks, it's not proper tanking, more like ghetto-controlling really

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Try a /ice blaster...they can tank quite easily...take on 8 minions couple of lts and a boss no problem.

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And that's before clicking on Force of Nature .

Just to clarify, I was not implying that I didn't like the Leadership pool, and of course, the powers scale nicely so if 5+ on a team have them, they give a fantastic buff (it's just that it probably won't happen very often unless you're on an all-defender team). And I was speaking about controllers, but for defenders I agree they are almost a must-have. The defence buff from Maneuvers is still tiny (less than 5% fully slotted for both defenders and trollers) so I'm not sure I would bother swapping it for Assault (and I never put in more than 1-2 slots in it), just in case you exemp below 32. An all-controller team would probably need them less (as long as there are 1-2 kins with Fulcrum) since (with containment and debuffs) they will be at the damage cap anyway.

PS and sorry for hijacking the thread

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TBH I view any defender / troller / MM / Corruptor without at least 1 leadership pool as rather substandard.

I recall once a 6 MM / 1 brute team. All the MM had assault. THe poor brute barely managed to reach the mobs before they had been gunned down by the MM. After that experience, I simply cant do without Assault at the least. If everyone took leadership pools in the game, it would feel like god mode.

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In a PvE perspective, Leadership is fine on some builds and less needed on others. Don't know much about villains (yet), but at least for controllers, I would only see it as extremely useful on /kins for Tactics (and Assault becomes useless after Fulcrum anyway). On some tight builds such as illusion/empathy, I would certainly not see it as a priority over other available powers.

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And to remind people that controllers have other options than holds.

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Agree. Illusion does need it for PvE (or at least, it helps a lot) but other primaries (e.g. Fire) can even skip their AoE hold.

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Well illusion has other tricks going for them in terms of aggro control. PA is uber, last longer than holds and the combo PA + Spectral terror is just as good as a hold. The problem with illusion isnt control its ways to get containment.

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Sure thing. Which is why having a secondary such as /rad or /TA helps

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ive not done a hami raid before was wondering what lv id need to be, would like to bring my stone tank he will be lv 42 today and if i keep playing as him hope fully lv 50 by the 24th of july for the raid.

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The minimum is 45 in order to be able to enter the Hive.

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And to remind people that controllers have other options than holds.

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Agree. Illusion does need it for PvE (or at least, it helps a lot) but other primaries (e.g. Fire) can even skip their AoE hold.

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whats the point!


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To make sure trollers are only slightly overpowered now . We do have containment since I5, remember?

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So, is there anyway I can obtain numbers for smoke/ice shield?

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According to Foxmaiden's Fire Guide (clicky), Smoke gives a very small acc debuff (less than 10% was mentioned in a previous version of the guide) making it "mainly useful for stealth". Frozen Armour gives 20% resist to cold and 13.6% defence vs S/L (unslotted) according to SherkSilver.

That supression thing when clicking glowies got me killed a few times last night as we were hunting some AVs. Was used to being unspottable with Superior Invis, but not anymore .

I really like Psi on my Illusion troller (great shield, nice status protection and best AoE attack) although I'm sometimes tempted to try Primal for the effects on the /rad powers, especially if I ever decide to do a PvP respec.

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Hello, I'm a fire/kin, looking at epics, and I'm thinking, what would a 3-slotted to-hit debuff smoke, on top of a 3 slotted def stone armour epic, give to me in terms of defence overall? Just a general question, doing freespecs on test.

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Oooooh, no... fire/kin is about offence so go either Fire or Psi.

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Okton, if Idris can't make it dya wanna sub back in with us? Make it 3 blasters??

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Will try to make it but can't promise anything

And since I haven't played yet and I did declare 2 toons, think I can bring a troller instead?

There's a few threads with builds and such if you look a few pages back, but some quick comments:

- might want 2 acc in Transfusion. You really don't want it to miss.
- same with Char, I'd swap a rchg for an accuracy.
- More slots in siphon power if possible (recharges for stacking).
- Fire Cages: 2 acc and an endred seems enough for me.
- 2 acc in siphon speed.
- wouldn't bother with all those slots in SJ.
- 3 endreds seems a bit much in Acrobatics, 1-2 should be enough.
- You won't really use Assault much (certainly not after Fulcrum), so 1 endred might be enough.
- If you have spare slots you might want to add some dmgres to ID.
- Definitely 2 acc in both Transference and Fulcrum and I would also recommend it for Fire Ball/Blast (you'll easily be facing +4s by then).
- No Cinders?

Hope some of this helps!

PS Oh, and you DO want Hasten

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RoF scatters mobs, it does not manage aggro and the very brief respite it gives is not worth the aggro it generates unless soloing really.

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I know this is about /kins, but RoF works much better if there's a Tar Patch underneath .

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3 vs 7

two spines regen and illusion/empathy Vs Broadsword/regen, Sonic/energy and ice/ice blaster. waa gonna be nasty

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Ouch, just ouch.

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Idris, hold me.

*whimper*

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Oh, by the way, I'm not a BS/Regen.. I'm an ice/ice dominator.

Maybe we can make it a draw if we hide and they never find us?

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*note to organisers*

Actually, the 3rd one will not be an ice/ice blaster since I gave up my spot to Kronos who subbed for me in the first rounds. I'll try to come along anyway to watch some matches or join if any teams are short on people.

Double wrote a nice Earth/Rad guide which you can find here.

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(and prolly tha phase bubble)

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Sonic also has a phase power (Sonic Cage) which is available earlier.

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And well... if you're a dad you already have to be (at least mentally) a tank... hehe... now that you're saying it I start worrying... better choose another charachter ?!?


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Well I'm a dad and usually play controllers... I guess I feel at least I'm somewhat in control when I'm in Paragon

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I also make this toon togheter with a tank and a scrapper so they love the shields I give them:P...anyone got the values of those tho?..


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For controllers it's about 25% +res with 3 SOs for Sonic Barrier/Haven and about 15% for Sonic Dispersion.

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not really. A lot less people have repel resistance, compared to people who have mez protection. Anybody can get combat jumping and acrobatics to stop them from being immobbed and knocked down. Only 3-4 powersets in the entire game give resistance to repel.

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Has anyone tried Sonic Repulsion? I haven't bothered for PvE but am wondering whether it could work in PvP (even though it's ally-based).

I know exactly why Unthing is making this post (since we were on the same team the other day with that stone tank) and I agree that although this applies to all ATs, it's probably more important in the case of tanks since they will most likely be the only ones to survive if they play badly (unlike other ATs).

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It's the only epic with a good AoE attack, and it's very good.

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What about Psi Tornado? (more damage and less frequently resisted).

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Also, as i stated in an earlier post, i've given up on speccing this toon into a PvP build, fire/kin is far too good at PvE to warrant it, i have other toons for PvP.

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Same here

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Hmmm is it possible to wormhole ----> corner, get sing repelling and putting disruption field on then?

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Hmmm... must try that sometime... anyway I seem to be on a lot of scrappers gfriends lists nowadays, so I rarely solo.