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well of course! whats more better than a selfrezzing KB'ing a large group that was on top yer, giving ye enough time to fly away!

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Erm... how about not dying?

Some comments:

- You need 3 damage enhances in your attacks (much more important than rchg or slows)
- CE needs endreds (e.g. 2 endred / 2 slows)
- CJ: def is minimal, slot for jump
- SJ: 3 jumps is too much (even for PvP)
- Health: not really worth it for squishies, but if you really want to take it, don't waste slots on it
- Aim: 1-2 ThT_Buf are enough, and that's really if you want to PvP (same with BU)
- Ice Patch: 1-2 rchgs is better slotting
- Try to take Stamina earlier (before BU) and if possible, Hasten
- Acrobatics: slot endred
- Freezing Touch: I would slot 1-2 acc 2-3 holds
- Frozen Aura: as I said, I would take Shiver instead, but try it and see what you think

Hope some of this helps!

Both Chilling Embrace and Shiver are very useful for the slow effect (movement and recharge) but they don't deal any damage. They are definitely worth taking in my opinion, for both PvE and PvP. I never liked Frozen Aura since it comes too late to be of much use: it would be a good power for soloing in the 20-30s, but in the 40s, you can't really solo that much anyway, and on teams, there are more useful powers for a blaster than an AoE sleep imho. Concerning Epics, I found Force and Elec to be above the others, but of course this depends on playstyle (some blasters really enjoy using Rise of the Phoenix...)

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Stage & i both have L50 trollers

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Wich tells enough on how any n00b can hit lvl 50...

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yeah, even you hit 50

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He did? How did that happen???

Sorry I'll be missing this raid Good luck to all anyway!

Gratz to Max! See you sometime in Recluse's

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(I'd say you'd have a hard time topping fire/kin in the 38-41 range though).


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I found fire/kin to be really powerful (for PvE) after 41, i.e. once you got your AoE attack to use with Fulcrum.

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Speaking of leadership, I have one question.
I'm a MM with Tactics (3 slotted).
My friend is a Thug/xxx MM with Tactics (3 slotted too).
Now, he decides to put 3 acc buff slots in his enforcers (I think he can).

And now the question : in this case, is it worth to put accuracy enhancers in the enforcers or can he slot with (just an example) : 3 acc buff, 3 damages ?
Thanks by advance.

(sorry for my English).

[/ QUOTE ]I don't think their ToHit buff is quite that big, I'd slot them 2 ACC 3 Dam 1 ToHit, or 1 ACC, 3 Dam, 2 ToHit.

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According to the Prima guide (I know, it's not perfect), the Leadership buffs for Enforcers are as follows: Maneuvers: 13.6% ; Tactics: 2.5% ; Assault: 5%.

So defence seems to be the only one really worth slotting (unless you're mainly teaming with fellow thugsters).

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the Flashfire/Fire Cages combo needs no further explanation to anyone that's used it

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Nor does the Flashfire/Fire Cages/Fulcrum/Fireball one

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Anyone who rolls a character specifically just for 1v1 PvP should get their coat and leave.

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You have heard of level 50 PvP respecs, right? And some people just prefer duels...

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nah, not really - even in a 1v1, FS is also a must have, it has a similar recharge to Siphon Power. (or is it faster/slower)?!??

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The recharge of Fulcrum is 3 times that of SP. But let's just agree to disagree on this .

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Ok Cold, I'll be on about tonight, i'll give you a tell. I've been highly recommended by one of your members Double.

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Jumi and Double??? Sparky! I didn't know it was n00b recruiting season at the D&VS!

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Wasn't the OP looking for advice on a PvE build? if so, then Fulcrum shift is a 100% Must have, and should be on auto fire.

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Indeed (about the OP), but your reply was to Jiaozy who was describing his (PvP) build. For a PvE build, it's definitely a must-must-have. And I agree it's better to have both but I maintain that if you really can't fit them, for 1-on-1 PvP, Fulcrum could be skipped (since with Hasten and SS, you will be stacking SP anyway).

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FS also uses the same amount of Enduurance as Siphon Power, if I'm correct.

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FS uses more, but since you have Transference by then, who cares?

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A kinetisist who didn't pick up Fulcrum shift should just get their coat and leave.


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For a pure PvP build, Fulcrum is certainly skippable.

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28) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(28)
30) --> Super Jump==> Jump(30)
49) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(49) EndRdx(50)

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Agree with MaX. Deceive for one, would be a good choice.

I would discourage you from skipping Stamina, especially when levelling; remember that Transference only comes at 35 and kin is an extremely active set. Although I see the problem for an ill/kin, since you do want (need) to take most of the primary powers (while a fire/ can skip quite a few). I've kept Stamina on my fire/kin since I want to make sure I can use all my powers (which recharge quickly with Hasten + SS) without having to spam Transference on every other mob (and I run Tactics). And if you ever change your mind about PvP, you'd better have Stamina (and Hurdle/Swift will help).

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Id consider that forgotten off sets - sonic - myself. A bit similar to bubbling in some respects, but with some tasty -resistance debuffs, handy for team and for solo. If you ever contemplate soloing, sonic is highly useful for upping your damage.


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And Disruption Field probably works best with Fire since the imps are the only ones who are really in melee most of the time (also works well with decoys).

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Id consider that forgotten off sets - sonic - myself. A bit similar to bubbling in some respects, but with some tasty -resistance debuffs, handy for team and for solo. If you ever contemplate soloing, sonic is highly useful for upping your damage.


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I've found sonic to be the least solo-friendly secondary for controllers. Nice for teaming, but really not great when you're by yourself (just respecced out Liquefy after finding it to be an almost worthless power, even when fully slotted).

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For a defender, never respec it out, but for a controller I'd say it is optional. After all in the situations where my defender would be debuffing with SP, a controller would probably be better off using his control powers.

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I still have SP on my fire/kin, but mainly use it to stack it on AVs. Won't be dropping it since I don't really need anything else.

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Went for the Recharge/Damage/Accuracy, maybe it was 3/2/1

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Yep, same slotting (and purpose) as Phantom Army really (although far from being indestructible...).

Good guide here.

Oh, and my ice/ice is a blaster, not a troller

Kinetics makes a nice secondary since you have decent damage and sleep/confuse powers which make it easier being in melee (I love Melon Baller's sleep/TP/Fulcrum combo).

I guess Rad would also be nice since you could have perma-confused debuff anchors.

Why didn't anyone warn me about Liquefy??? Oh wait... they did!

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OK, team 8 V team 2 seems to be a bit unusual. Only Spyka actually showed up so that match was not fought.

Not sure if that means all 6 lose a life or just the 5 who didn't turn up?

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Concerning Team 8, I passed on my spot (@Okton) since the beginning of the tournament to Kronos (and informed the organisers). Don't know if he showed up for that match or not though.

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then pressing the key will cycle through all of you pets.

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Although, as an illusion troller, he only has one buffable pet .

It's usually a close call between Tony Tequila and Mad Chihuahua...

Happy b-day Carnifax

Having used all 3 sets, my guess is that the debuff is (significantly) stronger for LR (despite what Prima says).

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I was meanning ACC enh (not debuff...I'll edit, thanks)...And to EMP Pulse, although the same can be said for all AoE Holds because in any case power boost not only increases the efects of your powers but also your ACC and damage.

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You're confusing the controller Primal Forces Epic Power Boost, with the defender Power Mastery Epic Power Build Up