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yep - I had it six slotted with holds on the only successful raid I've ever taken place in on Union (the public ones anyway).

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That does explain the success rate of Union Hami raids

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Not really Mesmer: it's been either lack of controllers or too much lag because of people not following instructions (at least we don't have n00bs pulling GMs into the jelly )

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I personally wouldn't use chilling embrace - there's a lot of other slow potential in the build anyway, and as you say, endurance can be an issue. In addition in mele you already have ice patch and freezing touch, to deal with anything that closes you.

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I know some people are not big fans of CE, but I find it quite useful. With 2 EndRdx the end cost is quite manageable.

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Indeed it is. Also the -DMG is really quite handy too! :P - my favourite power of the ice secondary by far!


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I thought only the tank version had -dmg

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Lets hope the pvpers dont realise I be there on my villain. For some reason I tend to be target number one. I cant think why .

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Will try to swing by (even if it's just to spam Sonic Cage on Max ).

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I personally wouldn't use chilling embrace - there's a lot of other slow potential in the build anyway, and as you say, endurance can be an issue. In addition in mele you already have ice patch and freezing touch, to deal with anything that closes you.

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I know some people are not big fans of CE, but I find it quite useful. With 2 EndRdx the end cost is quite manageable.

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If I was going to put a to hit buff in aim or build up (I don't, but I've thought about it at times), I'd put it in build up, as the to hit boost on that is lower (62.5% against aim's 100%) and alternate them which, with two accuracy enhancements in all powers, will give you extremely good chance to hit

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Good point. At the moment I still have a PvPish build which was great for stalker-hunting in Siren's, but has become much less so because of changes to toggle-dropping and the fact that CE doesn't interrupt AS anymore . But for PvE, you're probably right.

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I'd put an endurance reducer in CJ not a jump, it's not a particularly high end usage toggle really, but it all helps with ice/ice.

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Not convinced about this. The cost is really tiny, and I prefer the extra maneuverability.

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Again from an endurance point of view, I'd put an end reducer in Shiver, it's usage is quite high, and you could easily lose the range enhancer (you're no nearer to use it than you would be for ice bolt anyway) or possibly the recharge - it's a great power but given it's very long animation time do you want to be using it too often?

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I quite like the range enhance because it gives you a large cone, but you're probably right about an EndRdx being more useful than a Rchg.

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I like having Bitter Freeze Ray, I don't slot it heavily as I use it as an opener only due to the long animation time, but I find the ability to hold a boss from range very useful.

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This will always be a source of disagreement among ice blasters. I dropped it after 2 levels because of the horrible animation time, but I know some people use it as an opener. I prefer to hit Hasten and stack FR or jump in with Freezing Touch for the 2nd hold.

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If you're taking the leaping pool anyway, perhaps swift would be a better alternative to hurdle from the fitness pool?

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Do you mean Health? (I have Swift ) If so, I don't really believe in it for squishies. The +regen is minimal to make much difference in 90% of the cases. And even for casual PvP, I also prefer the Swift/Hurdle combo.

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Blizzard has extremely high base accuracy, it really doesn't need an enhancement for that. I'd replace that with either a further recharge, or an enhance slow. You could also perhaps add a further slow in to ice storm, giving you several ranged powers then with a good slow down capability which could accomodate the loss of the toggle.

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Since I dropped both of these back when ED came along, I wasn't sure what the best slotting was nowadays. But thanks for the tips!

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I assume acc means accuracy, dmg is damage and rechg is recharge. But what is TH_Buf? And what is EndMod (reduction to endurance consumption?)

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Yes. TH_Buf = To Hit Buff (increases your chances of hitting). EndMod = Endurance modification which can mean greater endurance recovery or endurance drain (and is different from EndRdx which reduces the endurance cost of using a power).

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Most importantly, what are the numbers in brackets? (ex: Acc(1) Dmg(3) Dmg(7) Rechg(50) Rechg(50))

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The levels at which you add a slot/enhancement.

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And also, has this template only superjump? I was thinking of taking flight, in order to stay out of reach of the enemies while blasting them... doesn't it work that way? why choose superjump instead?

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Many blasters like the Leaping pool because it has Combat Jumping and leads to Acrobatics. Fly is OK too, but slower and less useful (in most cases) for PvP. When fighting, you would probably need to switch to Hover anyway (Fly uses a lot of endurance).

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With both AM and Conserve Power in your locker, and maybe a little liberal slotting, would there be an arguement for non-Stamina?

(i know the Rad is toggle heavy, hence end heavy - just throwing it out there )

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Just no.

(more specifically, even with a couple of EndRdx on toggles, you need Stamina: the +recov from AM is not great and CP has a very long recharge and short duration)

(you Stamina-hater... )

This is what I plan to respec my ice/ice into a some point. Mainly PvE, but should be OK for casual PvP. A bit endurance heavy so might swap some Rechg for EndRdx here and there. I'm also a fan of melee so I prefer Freezing Touch to BFR, and I like to use both CE and Shiver for stacking slows. I haven't tried Cold Mastery but I'm quite happy with Force.

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Chango_respec
Level: 50
Archetype: Blaster
Primary: Ice Blast
Secondary: Ice Manipulation
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01) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(1) Dmg(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(7) Acc(17) Rechg(37)
01) --> Chilblain==> Acc(1) Acc(40)
02) --> Ice Bolt==> Acc(2) Dmg(11) Dmg(11) Dmg(15) Acc(36) Range(43)
04) --> Ice Sword==> Acc(4) Dmg(5) Dmg(5) Dmg(7) Acc(17) EndRdx(27)
06) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(6)
08) --> Freeze Ray==> Acc(8) Acc(9) Hold(9) Hold(15) Rechg(36) Rechg(37)
10) --> Swift==> Run(10)
12) --> Aim==> Rechg(12) Rechg(13) Rechg(13) TH_Buf(42)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Hurdle==> Jump(16) Jump(46)
18) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Acc(18) Dmg(19) Dmg(19) Dmg(23) Acc(36) Rechg(37)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(22) EndRdx(23) Slow(34) Slow(34)
24) --> Build Up==> Rechg(24) Rechg(25) Rechg(25)
26) --> Ice Patch==> Rechg(26) Rechg(27)
28) --> Shiver==> Acc(28) Acc(29) Slow(29) Slow(34) Range(43) Rechg(46)
30) --> Ice Storm==> Slow(30) Slow(31) Dmg(31) Dmg(31) Dmg(39)
32) --> Blizzard==> Acc(32) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Rechg(40) Rechg(40)
35) --> Freezing Touch==> Acc(35) Acc(43) Hold(46) Hold(50)
38) --> Hasten==> Rechg(38) Rechg(39) Rechg(39)
41) --> Personal Force Field==> DefBuf(41) DefBuf(42) DefBuf(42)
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes(44) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(45) EndRdx(45)
47) --> Force of Nature==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48) DmgRes(48) DmgRes(50) DmgRes(50)
49) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(49)

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I'm not a fan of choking cloud either, but since the control nerf waaay back to flash and emp, it is the only AoE hard control you have that can be available on a regular basis. To be effective you do need to either have lots of acc slotted (sacrificing duration or endurance) or have RI and leadership running. I have it slotted for hami raids right now, which is 3 end reduc, 3 hold + toggles running. In regular play I'd maybe swap some end for acc and not run it all that often.


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But you can't slot CC for accuracy . I agree, ill/rad can have very different builds. Mine is a PvPish build now, so I have dropped Flash and taken Primal Epic, and I even slot EMP for Endmod against some ATs.

Nice build. I would do a few things differently:

- As Light Petting said, I never found I needed more than 1-2 Rchgs in Radiant Aura with Hasten (which you should 3-slot and take in the early 20s btw)
- I don't think Fly requires an EndRdx if you use it as a travel power, and I agree, Hover is probably better than AS for this build.
- I would actually go for Psi or Primal (at least at 47), but if you take Fire (and keep it), I would take the shield. Every bit helps.
- Concerning Leadership, I found it much less needed for ill/rad than say for /kins. iirc only Phant will benefit from the buffs, and you do already have a few toggles. YMMV. Likewise, not a fan of Choking Cloud.

Enjoy!

He's right about not needing acc for PvE, but if it's not auto-hit in PvP, an acc might come in handy.

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I heard a while back that you could create heros on the test server at any level you wish so that you can check out builds and whatnot, is this still available? Or did i dream it all? If its available, how would I be able to do so...?

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Unfortunately not. Just before I7 there was an event on test in RV during which you could roll toons at lvl 40 (including inf for all enhances), but that was only for a couple of days.

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*flex*

Sooooo, now I am ruler of SoaP, I declare myself King of the 1AT!

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What's SoaP, and more importantly, who are you???

Hehe, gratz again Jumi, you can be King of the (smelly) Speedoes, but that's about it really

Nice to hear others feel the same way about the game and (some of) the people behind it

PS and gratz again Kitty, keep those 50s coming!

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Hotfeet doesn't take acc enhancements so 3 dmg, 3 end reds in here

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Actually it does Archy, although I'm still not sure whether it's only needed for PvP.

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That's what I thought. Thanks MaX.

Hi Capt,

I should be on later today (20/10) and can help with this. I would suggest trying to get as many people as possible close to the upper lvl limit (33) who can then sk others. It just makes things so much easier. I have a lvl 25 earth/kin troller or a few toons who could exemp.

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Hotfeet doesn't take acc enhancements so 3 dmg, 3 end reds in here

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Actually it does Archy, although I'm still not sure whether it's only needed for PvP.

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Ouch. That's the sound of spankage, right there.

Good job PDs. and some Okton wannabe

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fine, fixed it up for ya

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Hahaha, everyone knows that Okton00b secretly aspires to be me

Disclaimer: all of the above may not entirely be in consistency with reality.

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Hehe... may or may not... Sounds like you had a fun party there! 20 mins??? That's just plain cruel...

Seeds! Quickly! Before it gets nerfed!

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You do know about ED, right?

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yeh I know what ED is, well kinda lol you see when it came in I never really read much about it coz I thought it was lame, so now I dont know what % things should be on coz it varies depending on power so like I said feedback on a build would be nice. The only thing I did check out was healing aura with 4 SO heals in it was better then 3.

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That's right, but you won't get almost any benefit from a 4th enhance of the same type once you're on SOs. So the rule of thumb is to stick to 3 max.

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Message from GForce, as he can't post on here at the moment:

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The forums are down because of a networking problem in the data center. I've been annoying the hell out of them to get it fixed asap. So stay calm or spam the official boards as a substitute.

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And as they would say here in France, that's what happens when you leave things in the hands of the Belgians... Anyone else worried that the NATO Headquarters are located in Brussels?

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The joys of work tomorrow mean I can't join in the fun of the CoP trial either.

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Not to worry Steel. It's been taken offline because of "technical problems".

You do know about ED, right?

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Well, as the 1AT boards seem to have temporarily died...

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I blame it on... what's that n00b's name again?

What Carni said. But be careful because Hot Feet is hard to use much before you slot 3 SO EndRdx in it. One option is to slot the immobs for damage at low levels, then respec some slots out later (or even drop the single-target immob).

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I think I've traced my dislike of Shadow Fall to my current end-starved Sonic Def main, who is constantly ripping her hair out trying to get people to stay in the damned (so helpfully invisible) bubble, while copping their aggro as they run through spawns with your PBAoE debuff on them, getting her the Alpha strike which drops her bubble due to the synchronised mez. Yes, she's having.. fun.. right now.

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Clearly this is a lie, since we all know sonic defenders/trollers don't exist


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My Fire/Dark seems to be her dark mirror. Everything she is not, including being considerate to people who won't stick together for the damned aura buffs whose effects they can't see, and don't appreciate. Even my Howling Twilight is slotted for offense. Basically she's cruel, and will squeeze respect out of them as they *cling* to her for her PBAoE heals!!

I'm also in dire need of the powerslot so she can test whirlwind on people desperately trying to leave rain of fire/tarpatch. In her spare time she also pulls the legs off puppies.

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I'm also playing a fire/dark but don't think I would consider Whirlwind with some many good powers to take already. YMMV

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I'll leave Shadow Fall until late, and see how much I miss it.


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Get it quickly! You're already missing it!

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Freind got the game now and wants me to make a new char with her...so here i am again
Iv played grav/kin till the midd teens and do like the control, so would choose fire of illu this time. However im stuck for secondary with fire. Kin or rad? I care more about what is ultimately more powerfull at 50, rather then whats better at begining. i would still get a travel form from pools if i get kin. rad looks like more to do in combat, and with fire epic you get combustion. But many people have said kin is best, with FS, and certainly for end. Anywho advice

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For PvE AoE damage at 50, kin is the way to go, but it's a slow combo to level before 32 (and will definitely need Stamina, at least until 35). As I said before, rad is easier to play (and more powerful) in the low levels. I'm not sure if you are talking about Consume (from the Fire Epic), if so you won't need it after Transference.