Obsidius
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Quote:My thoughts exactly. Even to the point where I'm looking at upgrading in a few months for GR.Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
But I'd say that the graphic update coming down the pipes definitely puts us in a much more competitive place against the other superhero MMOs. -
Quote:Have to agree with UnSub on this one. One of the problems with CoV, in addition to not offering many differences from CoH (in the opinion of some reviewers), was that it was also the herald of ED. The negative feedback from the player base was obviously noticed by outsiders, game news sites, and potential players, which probably softened the potential new subs that Cryptic and NCSoft hoped to gain from CoV's launch.Originally Posted by UnSub
I don't think GoRo is coming with a whole heap of nerfs riding shotgun - the aim of GoRo is to attract new players, not drive them off.
That being said, I don't think NCSoft will make the same mistake twice (although Cryptic seemingly didn't learn from their mistake with the "purple patch" during the Champions Online launch). There might be some adjustments here and there to certain powers, as is the case with most regular Issue releases, but becuase Going Rogue will be one of those devices that will be used to try and attract new subs, I don't see any sweeping or overly general nerfs, because they'd be counterproductive to those goals. -
Did this a while back, but glad to see this idea being promoted
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Quote:It's basically the feeling one gets after attending HeroCon 2009 or the precipitated news of Going Rogue upcoming features, factions, etc. The buzz creates hubris.Originally Posted by Creole Ned
I'm still wondering what exactly "GR hubris" is.
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Quote:You know, I had this same thought after reading some of the replies. Sure, GR is quite a few months out there, but since we've already started numerous threads on the topic, a new board would be the best solutionOriginally Posted by Zombie Man
Perhaps we can say good-bye to the I16 forums and create a new Going Rogue forum?
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Quote:Well, I'm a sucker for debate, so I am equally to blameOriginally Posted by EU_Damz
I humbly appologise. While reading the thread i did think you was being completely serious and did miss the indiciation of humour. So in that regard i appologise for [in a way] trying to cause a problem.
Now . . . . back to the threads!
Like I said, half-serious, so half serious, half not. To be specific, I enjoy reading other people's perspectives, but not trying to start a flame war. So feel free to debate, just don't get wrapped around the axle I'm open to other perspectives.
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Quote:Thanks MarcianOriginally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Before things get too far out of hand, let's all stop and compliment the sexiness of Obsidius's avatar. I done dressed up today!
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Quote:Wait... when did I ever say in this thread that I did feel strongly about this? Haven't I said throughout this thread that I was being half serious, that I was humored, etc.?Originally Posted by Primal
If you feel so strongly about it...
Happy Halloween, indeed Where'd all the starch come from? Perhaps my top hat is throwing everyone off?
Oh crap, I forgot the M&M's in my vest pocket!
Edit: I was kinda serious about my P_P remark, admittedly. And I pointed out a common logical fallacy. Meh, guess I should have stuck to the original premise. Shame on me
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Quote:Of course, I wasn't trying to be completely serious in this thread, but if you want a rebuttal, here's one off the top of my head:Originally Posted by EU_Damz
Not in ANY of the threads you mentioned is there a large group of people saying that it doesnt belong here.
Argumentum ad populum ("appeal to belief", "appeal to the majority", "appeal to the people"): where a proposition is claimed to be true solely because many people believe it to be true. It's a logical fallacy.
IOW, just because the majority thinks that a position is right, or perhaps simply puts up with something, doesn't necessarily make that position correct. It doesn't mean that my position is absolutely correct, but there are better arguments to be made against it. I think Lemur_Lad made a pretty convincing argument against certain topics in the Player Questions thread - I tried writing a rebuttal but it sounded foolish. -
Quote:Not sure whether I should laugh or cry by this commentOriginally Posted by DumpleBerry
Glad to see you're on top of this, Obsidious. I would expect no less of you.
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Quote:Hero 1 gave it to her mother who in tern gave it to her.Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
She's not capable of wielding it. Hero 1 gave it to her when he left on his suicide mission (and aren't we glad Honoree doesn't have it!), but she isn't able to use it.
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I've gone steam-goth this year. Not any particular costume, but fancy top hat & cane, and a black wardrobe throughout.
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Quote:They nerfed of from 30 days to 21 in beta. What more do you want?Originally Posted by Sentai_Sage
Nerf day jobs.
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Quote:I was wondering if anyone would detect my clever hypocrisy in that postOriginally Posted by EU_Damz
You just opened a whole can of worms there That makes us ALL roleplayers then, since your playing the character you made in a certain way that makes you a roleplayer
Also since you joined a supergroup that makes you roleplaying into their specific style
Also since . . . . . [could go on and on and on We have discussed this subject to death and even roleplayers say that true roleplaying is having a back story, character, settings etc NOT what you describe ]
BTW im NOT a roleplayer and i 100% dont see this as roleplaying, i see this as players having "friendly banter" with eachother.
And as expected, already getting neg rep'd for being cranky. Go figure. That actually makes me smile for some reason.
GET OFF MY LAWN!
Edit: just as a point of clarification, I didn't join a supergroup - I co-founded it That makes your point even more damning!
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Quote:Oh, so we have you to blame for the current predicament?Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
Truth be told, it took us a long time to get P_P to STOP putting that kind of thread in PQ, because it really doesn't belong there.
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Quote:I think we'll just have to disagree on the semantics Marcian. Whether RPing an in-game character or applying an in-game role to a forum persona, a fictitious role is still being played.Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
As I explained in one of the "RP" threads... we aren't role playing. If we were, we'd have characters, backstories, a story, and any desire to go anywhere. As it is right now, we're just finding a weird and fun way to express our excitement for Going Rogue.
I basically just take the statement "I think Praetoia will be cool" and prefaced it, jokingly, with "As a Loyalist". No one's actually "in character".
Again, I mostly blame the GR hubris and novelty for this phenomena, and am not judging anyone partaking harshly.
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Quote:Well, on this topic in particular, it's my belief that most of P_P's posts belong in the Player Questions thread. However, her posts are on a leash in the General Discussion boards in the hopes that a red name will stop by to give them a rub behind the ears. Lamentably, the devs don't have much time to stop and pet poodle posts.Originally Posted by Steel_Shaman
Is it really that big of a deal? I mean, honestly.
As for P_P's "player question" on the general discussion board, am I to assume that any sentence ending with a question mark doesn't belong here?
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Perhaps I'm just being too nitpicky, or perhaps the Going Rogue frenzy has combined with a Halloween candy sugar rush and made everyone a bit loopy.
- Player question in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Player Questions board)
- Player question in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Player Questions board)
- Roleplaying in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Roleplaying board)
- Player question in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Player Questions board)
- Players guide in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Players Guides board)
- Roleplaying in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Roleplaying board)
- Forum Game in the General board (Instead of the Forum Game board)
- Player question in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Player Questions board)
- Player question in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Player Questions board)
- Roleplaying in the General Discussion board (Instead of the Roleplaying board)
- Comments in the Player Question board (Instead of the General Discussion board)
- Suggestions in the Technical Issues board (Instead of the Suggestions and Ideas board)
I am not trying to come down on anyone in particular about these problems, it just seems a little humorous how disorganized things have become on the boards, just within the past week. I blame full moon fever, GR hubris, chocolate overdose, or something
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Why is this OP even ion this board? It's not even a question.
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We'll keep the light on for ya
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Quote:How can one say that entertainment is not an art form in one post, and then site the Hollywood establishments for recognition of television and cinema (as a basis of defining an art form) in a previous post? Not to be overly blunt, but that's a hypocritical fallacy.Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
Well see, the difference is that in a song, or a painting or a movie, art is used to convey a message of some kind; often personal, sometimes politcial, but always very important. At least to the person who made it.
Now videogames came from a different angle from that. The main point of a game was not to invoke an emotion or convey an important message. It was something else entirely. I'll admit that with videogames, it has already begun moving away from that. But like I was trying to say before, I don't think it's exactly there yet.
Now a good analogy for us here might be in comic books. They were certainly not considered to be serious art to any degree! But I'm certain anyone who's read them in the last 30 or 40 years would beg to differ.
Now here we got an MMO that embraces the spirit of the superhero genre that has been the mainstay of comic books for so long. Just one look in the thread about Going Rogue on the heated philosophical discussions over the true meaning of morality will show that the makers of this game have kind of touched on something. I don't know if that's really by design or not, or if us posters have just gone off on some wild tangent!
A game like this one is enteraining to be sure, there are no doubts there! But what's is ultimate message? Good always triumphs over evil? Be careful what you wish for? Sacrifices must sometimes be made for the greater good?
If you think this game is art, I'd like to know why you think so. No trite or sarcastic responses, pretty please. I'm quite serious. Why do you think it is? My mind is certainly open to the possibility.
If one embraces cinema, television, theater, musicals, dancing, music, and other forms of entertainment as art, why then should one make an exception for video games? Are they not created by artists? Do they not entertain us? Are they not criticized by the public and professionals alike?
In regards to the "ultimate message", it is true that not every video game is a narrative with a moral at the end, or a compelling story. However, the same can be said about many television shows. Yet still, to cite a specific example, shows like Robot Chicken still win Emmys and are recognized by their peers and their audiences, despite not having much content at all. And that's to say nothing for Seinfeld, as another example. Yet, these are still recognized art forms.
That's my 2 infl. Color me in the same corner as BAB in this debate. -
Saw this problem last night on LRSF. All mobs were 49 except for the Heroes, who spawned at their correct levels. Still dinged 50 with my Crab Spider though Thanks to Cath and crew, BTW!
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Quote:This is a section for questions to other players, from other players. Surely, you can't expect any of us to answer your question. Perhaps posting your question here would be better?Originally Posted by Celestial_Lord
It's a legitimate game-related question by a player.
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Quote:Well played sirOriginally Posted by Aett_Thorn
This is the Player Questions section, not the Rhetorical Questions section.
Technical Issues & Bugs is a few boards up. But if I were you OP, I would try to be more specific
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An excellent point Cat.