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Frak, my eyes need scrubbing. Foot maggots seem appealing in comparison.

Suggestion - in case alternate weapon attack animations are included at a later date, simply add a check mark box on the Power Customization screen for any weapons sets that reads "Draw weapons during combat." That would give players the option of enabling it or disabling it while being able to use any possible alternate animations in the future.

Neat! Now only if we could get rid of rooting! (I know this would be a lot more difficult from the animation standpoint though )

I think this would be counterintuitive to their current, apparent strategy. Why hire on a bunch of new developers of your intent is to create a new game that has more appeal than your old game, in the hopes of drawing player base form Product A to Product B? What would be the point in reinvesting in Product B when you want everyone to go to Product A? What would be the point of revamping the New Player Experience in Product B when you want to draw new players to Product A?

Logically and financially, it doesn't make sense. If this were the case, Paragon Studios would have remained NCNC, not hired on new developers, and instead maintained the existing game to retain subscribers, and allocated the additional manpower to NA regionalization of Aion or to another project, and then tried to enitce the current player base to the new game, as well as new players.

You're right in saying that building a new IP is much easier than taking an existing IP and making a sequel, since an existing IP comes with a lot of baggae and player expectations. Fiscally, doesn't it make sense to utilize the existing technology as long as possible, in opreder to get a better return on investment, or in order to better prepare for a sequel in the future? I don't imagine that NCSoft likes licensing Cryptic's engine for CoH, but it's still better than spending millions to redevelop a CoH sequel on top of a new engine. Sure, many want other things to be added to the game that the engine can't currently support, but at what cost? Heck, EQ is still going after 10 years and is still profitable.

False Analogy. TR was a hugely hyped MMO with an overblown budget and a production schedule that was pushed back several times, only to deliver a mediocre product at launch with little to no hope of paying back the initial cost of investment based on the number of subscribers. I believe nearly any publisher would have done the same in NCSoft's shoes, but that's just my opinion.

That's a little ironic, IMPO, considering that you didn't care about the happenings of other MMOs a page or two ago. Although I know you're being sarcastic here (which is really not the best why to make a persuasive argument, or so I've been taught), I know Matt Miller's in South Korea this week, probably to discuss the state of the game with the higher ups.

But if you'll forgive me for using some sarcasm, I bet what he's really doing is giving them all of our suggestions so they can use them in Aion and other games being developed and lauded over our poor red-headed stepchild game, Little Orphan CoH

The point is that you are insisting that ideas from CoH have been "stolen" to be used on another NCSoft MMO, which is a hypothesis without merit, because these ideas have been used in other non-NCSoft MMOs long before CoH. That is why you should care - because the fact that these ideas have been persistant in the industry long before CoH undercut your hypothesis. It's a fault of inductive reasoning.

Appeal to emotion is also another logical fallacy. I think everyone here on these forums cares about the future of the game, to varying degrees. Simply because people disagree with your arguable hypothesis does not diminish their enjoyment of the game nor their concern for its future.

This game is hardly a "red-headed stepchild" - if that were the case, we would not have received more developers for GR and beyond. The actions of NCSoft thus far have indicated that they are deeply invested in the future of CoH, both financially and intellectually.

Merely because you see some new features being added to one game instead of another does not indicate preference. Heck, the two games don't even share the same development staff, so this juxtaposition, IMPO, is absurd, especially when combined my observation above.

You aren't wrong for wanting the tech, but starting off a sequel with a new game engine isn't as easy as replacing a light bulb. You're basically talking about everything being redeveloped form the ground up - textures, animations SFX, VFX, skeletons, maps, contacts, missions, text... everything in the game would have to be remade, a lot of it from scratch. Look how long it took for SOE to make EQ2 (a questionable successor to EQ1 at best), and you'll understand the time frame involved. It took Cryptic 4 years to make CoH Issue 0 from conception to launch; CoH2 might take even longer if they want to match the amount of content currently in the game.

GL with that. They're six separate entity types, so changing the way they stack in the market would probably require new code, and wouldn't be trivial to do.

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Sorry, couldn't resist.

Second case in point: Lemuria. Sure, they have an underwater zone, but none of the animations account for things like water viscosity and slower movement underwater, especially in combat (such as punching or swinging an axe). It's even more apparent with giant monsters that have more surface area but still attack at the same lightning speed underwater as they would in open air. Wonky, wonky, wonky.

Also: Sonic attacks underwater anyone?

I'm sure no one who plays any other MMO has ever thought of these ideas before. Clearly, someone is putting their hands in the CoH S&I thread and stealing our ideas!



... Really?!? I mean, don't plenty of other MMOs have underwater zones, like DAoC for example? Don't other MMOs have player housing or apartments? Don't other MMOs also have whips and crossbows? Isn't FFXI already cross-platform, as will be FFXIV?

None of these are original ideas intrinsically tied to CoH suggestions. Rather, they've all been done before on other games, in some cases games that came out well before CoH. The only new tech I see are visual enhancements, by nature of Moore's Law. And we'll be getting those with GR anyhow.

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Wait... do you have a problem with me expressing my opinion on an Internet forum? Or did you just have have difficulties linking the thread in general, as opposed to my specific post? Not that I don't agree in part with Mac, or trying to impress anyone in general, I just want a point of clarification

Although this thread is full of stereotypes already; one couldn't swing a dead cat in this thread without hitting one. You can just lump me in with whoever you wish I suppose.

Whatever works pal, speed up something or slow something else down. But hey, when you insult someone's intelligence it's easy to see why people are so willing to extend olive branches, make bridges, or for a dev to actually read feedback