Obsidian_Force2

Desired or not, with the animation times for form switching and the number of changes required to truely capitalize on Tri-Forming (and I speak almost always of the Warshades not the Peacebringers) it wouldnt take much buffing of human form attacks to bring the human damage potential into the same realm of the tri-former.

I simply do not see the benifit of doctoring an AT or set so that alternative methods of play become as efficient as the ones that appear to be intended. To me it's very much like asking for extra MM damage to compensate the MM's who desire to run without pets.

That is an exageration of course but it's a similar form of thinking where we do not attempt to maxximize what we do have but instead try to alter the set or AT to fit our own playstyles, and thats simply not how games like this work...most of the time...

If my petless master mind or toggleless scrapper can't do the game on the lowest setting (or even if I can) it's because I have elected to forgo specific powers created to make my survival and success easier, and the fact it's inconvienient, clunky, or not my prefered has no affect on that at all. We simply are not playing a game of make whatever strikes your fancy and you will do just as well as anyone else, and I don't think we should be.

I simply do not like the idea of catering to alternative builds by changing power sets and AT's unless we are all happy doing this with each and every set and AT in the game.

I honestly hate dissagreeing with you Bill because I really do respect you but I simply cannot get onboard with this sort of change.

And this as well.

Because I base my most important decisions on "what wouldn't AlienOne do....?"

Though I dissagree with your views, (I would prefer to leave Tri-Forming as the way to play most effectively) I do not find it surprising that people on this particular forum are willing to negative rep you for a different opinion than theirs.

I find it a sad truth that here, facts and figures as well as differences in opinion will be argued and dissmissed out of hand without any logical debate soley because some do not like what you have to say.

I believe you are correct about the discrepancy, I just prefer how things are now, but I see nothing wrong with your attempting to change things even if I do not support it, and find the negative rep hits particularly juvinile.

This could be the first time I have read something Bill Z has said and wondered, "Has he even played a Kheldian before?".

And yes I know he has but how such an experienced and savy veteran player can have such a different play experience than me leaves me boggled.

I most commonly solo on a +2/x5 setting when I don't feel like working hard, and ramp up based on how good a workout I want to get.

This is far from only on the lower settings by any definition.

The teams I join already enjoy having Kheldians on the team and soloing is already trivialy easy even on higher settings and set for 4+ players (or +2 set to 2 for my SO only build).

My only objection to this line of thinking is it proceeds from a point of view that Kheldians need to be fixed. PB's could use a small boost (very very small) but Kheldians are in no way broken or in need of fixing.

If the Kheldian AT's do not appeal to you the simple solution is don't play them, not redesign the AT so it fits your playstyle preferance. I know this because it's exactly what I do with the VEAT AT's.

This is my main reason for slotting the purple melee damage set into Gravity Well.

Not only is the damage insane (not even counting the proc) but the recharge is so high you can still stack holds to lock down bosses.

If you really wanted to make the inherant benificial to PB's I would suggest +Rec as that is the most often complained about "problem" from the Peacers that I have noticed.

*Boggle*