Oathbound

How does Vigilance "Conceptualize" a Defender? Or Superior Conditioning an SoA?

How about you try providing any kind of constructive input or your own ideas to the conversation instead of just criticizing what others have put forth?

To reach any kind of reasonable outcome a discussion has to be an exchange of ideas, so far all you've done in this thread at all is shoot things down. How about adding a little to it instead?

Mid-Late January.

I'd also say it's most likely that Dominators and Controllers will get the same tier9 in Darkness Control. None of the control sets differ in any real way between the two ATs, and given the changes already going into Darkness Affinity, if the devs thought having pets from the control set plus fluffy would be too much, they'd have just replaced fluffy too.

We at least know that the tier9 is supposed to be baddass enough to warrant it being held back for it's own "big reveal."

I'm guessing something obviously magic. With runes and sigils and the like (like those from Demon Summoning).

As much as people/the Devs say they like to keep powersets origin neutral, there already exist powersets that are obviously of specific origin (mostly Tech).

Traps/Devices are obviously Tech. Sure there could be Magitech... but there are no Customization Options to do that. Trick Arrow is also fairly distinctly Tech origin for the same reason. Could you play it off as Magical Arrows? Absolutely, but the powerset's sounds and available customization options don't support that in any way. (Specifically the very Techy arrows used by many of the powers.)

Demon Summoning is plainly Magic in Origin.

Most other sets are fairly concept/origin neutral.

Which is kind of silly in and of itself, using a tier9 on something with low enough health for there to even be a chance of Scourging is probably already overkill 90% of the time, so why would it Scourging for the full amount be too powerful?

UGH, yes, the slow sets drive me batty. WHY DO THEY ALL ENHANCE DAMAGE?!?!?!

None of the other debuff set types waste bonuses on Damage enhancement. it makes slotting sets into powers like Shiver aggravating, because you're getting enhancement to something completely useless and loosing out on more bonuses that actually have any relevance to the power. It's of course even worse for powers like Snow Storm, where the Accuracy enhancement is also useless.

[*]Chance for resis/def boost
[*]Chance for PbAoE heal

These two will actually exist after the ATOs go live, though only for Tankers (Resist buff) and Defenders (PBAoE Heal).


Something Else I'd kinda like to see.... Non-Set proc IOs.

Damage/DoT/debuff/Control procs that can be slotted into any offensive power
Heal/End/Buff procs that can be slotted into any defensive power (Or just any power, all the current heal procs are offensive sets already)
Pet summon procs that can be slotted into anything (Chance/Duration would need careful balancing)
etc etc

Could do a Carnival of Light EAT for the Resistance side. Their powers are fairly unique. Certainly more so than Resistance NPCs... I'm honestly pretty disappointed just how generic those guys are. Even Belladonna, one of the most interesting characters in primal earth, is a very generic Dual Pistol user.

So far it's just looking like the AT sets. No indication of more new sets for existing power types, or the addition of sets for power types that don't have any.

Sad considering there are numerous power types that could really use some new options. (Ranged AoE for instance, or any of the newer types they added, such as Accurate Healing, with only 2 sets total(1 low level/1 high level)).

Purple sets could use some expansion into non-damage oriented power types also. (Fear/Healing/Defense and Resistance buff, Various Debuff types, etc.)

Yeah, really when they design Trials, they should have one Dev on it who's sole job during testing is to try and make sure it fails, then whatever causes the trial to fail based singularly on what THAT Dev did, should be fixed.

Should be doable. There are plenty of mobs that have a Post-Defeat power; Nemesis Lts(Vengeance), Jaegers/Warhulks(Explode) Carnies(End Drain), etc. Honestly I think I'd do away with the "Once per 90s" restriction though, even if that meant a reduction in the scale of the explosion. I dislike having timers on things which there's no in-game method of tracking.

SoAs. Female Arachnos Widows get the buttcape on their uniform costume slot, male widows don't, and in fact can't have ANY cape on that costume slot at all.

Honestly I'm not sure that I'd even want a "buttcape" for my male widow, but I'd like to be able to have a cape of some kind, and who am I to say someone else can't have a buttcape on theirs?


Edit:Just thought of something to add to your list. Females get a version of the Ascension boots with an extra plate bit above the knee that men have no access too. That one thing basically single-handedly put me off of buying any of the ascension stuff. Shame really, cause I'd have rocked the hell out of those boots. (I suppose this could fall under the "Thigh-High boots for men" category, but I wanted to add specifics.)

Betrayal implies that he was actually "with" you at a previous point in time. That may not be the case.


Have no fear, I shall become the cyborg intermediary, and facilitate peace between our two peoples. Like in the old days, when monarchs would marry off their children to rival powers to maintain the peace.

I'm fairly curious about this as well. VEATs are pretty beastly, and HEATs can be* as well.


*Easier for Warshades than PBs.

Damage and Control aren't all that a Dark/Dark Corruptor offers though. There's also Support (buff/debuff).

A Dark/Dark Dominator will only provide the two aspects you mentioned, and virtually no Support at all. Likewise a Dark/Dark Controller will offer both Control and Support, but not much in the way of Damage.

Defenders and Corruptors offer all 3 to varying degrees, more Damage focused for Corruptors and more Support focused for Defenders.

If you're not interesting in the Support aspect, then yes a Dark/Dark Dom would be a better fit or you, but that doesn't Obsolete the Dark/Dark Corruptor at all.

Irony of this part being that in their next expansion, WoW is getting rid of said 3 rectangle skill tree.



Let's see, what changed the game for me...

Inherent Fitness -- Before veteran rewards I'd just have to skip powers I wanted to it it in. After vet rewards I'd take powers I wanted while leveling, then burn a vetspec at 20 to get stamina. Now I don't have to worry about the whole nonsense at all.

Being able to start Basic ATs on any side -- I'm honestly not a fan of redside. I know there are people who love it. I am not one of them. That said I do LOVE some (formerly) villain archetypes. It's great that I can now just make them on the side I want them to be on.

Base Building -- It's like a game within a game. When I get tired of the game proper I can fall back on building, maintain connections to the community I'm a part of, and still enjoy my time.

Weee, another Sacramentan. Howdy neighbor.

Yeah. I tend to either use the dark palette or the desaturated colors on the far left of the bright palette, so that the strobing effect is less distracting.

This annoys me to no end.

Both of these really.

I hate not being able to use ANY of the existing head detail options for Monstrous and Animal heads.


(Edited, stupid F key doesn't want to work anymore.)

I actually built a speculative Hellfire powerset not too long ago by just using the whip attacks in game, and filling it out with non-whip powers. This is what I came up with:


Bolt of Hellfire - Ranged single target, very fast recharge; Minor fire dmg +toxic DoT, -resist (Basically a generic "Hellfire" looking tier1 blast.)

Lash - Melee single target, moderate recharge; Moderate fire dmg +toxic DoT, -resist (Lash, nuff said.)

Corruption - Ranged single target, Moderate recharge; Moderate fire dmg +toxic DoT, -resist (Bump Corruption up 8s recharge/damage, cause as one of the whip powers the set is built around you should WANT to use it, and I don't think you really would if it stayed a tier1 attack.)

Whirling Lash - PBAoE, Slow recharge; Moderate fire dmg +toxic DoT, -resist (This is just Crack Whip converted to a PBAoE, cause I've never understood why it was a cone. It LOOKS like a PBAoE. Ultimately it could just stay Crack Whip if having it a PBAoE vas a concern.)

Hellfire Spout - Melee Single Target, Slow recharge; Heavy fire dmg +toxic DOT, - resist, good chance for KnockUP (Uses the vertical "flame geyser" fx from when a MM summons their demons.)

Dread Covenant - Self utility power, Slow recharge; Self +Damage, -max hp, -regen, +resist to healing (Stackable Self Damage buff that lowers your max HP/regen/incoming healing by a small amount per stack on you. Basically you can trade a permanent damage boost for being squishier. the more stacks you have the more damage you deal, but the softer and softer you get. Was thinking +25%dmg, -10% MaxHP/Regen/10%Heal resist, per stack. Obviously numbers would need to be adjusted as needed. For the animation i was thinking they could just use the Evil Laugh Costume Change Emote.)

Burn in Hellfire - Short Range single target, slow recharge; Heavy fire/toxic DoT, Hold, -resist (Modification of the [Judgement] whip power LightCarnies use, which is itself a shortened version of the Hell on Earth animation.))

Inevitable Doom - Melee single target, moderate recharge; Fear, -tohit (Direct copy of Touch of Fear. I threw this in as a fairly skippable power, that's still pretty useful and fit the theme of the set well. Honestly I'd only even say ToF was "skippable" due to having a control primary, it's a pretty great power IMO. I was just worried that the set was running a bit heavy on damage.)

Hellgate - Location PBAoE "summon" Slow recharge; Moderate fire/toxic DoT, -resist, -run/fly/jump speed, chance for ally Heal (Drops a pseudopet at your feet or 20seconds that's basically a lower damage Rain of Fire. Ticks for scale 0.005fire and 0.005toxic damage every 0.2seconds (101total ticks for 1.01scale damage, pretty standard for Dom AoE attacks.) each tick also has a 20% chance to heal all friendlies in the radius for 0.5% (approximately 10.1% heal over 20seconds, so essentially 1 Healing Aura over 20seconds) I added the chance or heal to help offset the increased squishiness from Dread Covenant(s). For visual fx, it places the "summoning circle" from the Demon Summoning pet powers on the ground for it's duration, with a few fire effects to help set the mood.)

I think it would be doable, but since the Lightstaff powers themselves only use 3 or 4 animations total, you'd have to pull in animations from the melee weapon sets to fill the void. Some of the melee weapon animations actually could work quite well for ranged powers. Slice (I think, the low level Broadsword cone attack) is basically the same movement as Energy Torrent, for instance. Plus, or some powers you could animate it from the empty hand, and just have the character be holding the staff at the time. (Yes this would mean that you need to draw your staff to cast a power from your empty left hand, which is sort of nonsensical, but a fairly minor negative.)

Praetorian Carnival npcs use a unique variation of "Light Blasts" the most common one being Shimmering Bolt(or Blast, one of the two) which uses the fairly standard 1second palm thrusting animation with the "beam" effect from Blazing Bolt.

There are actually a fairly large number of "Light" blasts spread out among the CoL and it's factions. Enough, even to almost fill an entire set, except that about of them use the "Lightstaff" where the other half are hand cast, so there are multiple redundant powers (A Staff based tier1 blast and a non-staff based tier1 blast for instance).

I think they only actually use 1 or 2 gold colored Energy "Light" Blast powers, a la the Legacy Chain, and only on a few NPCs.


(I really though I had cataloged their blasts, but I can't find it. They have a mix of secondary effects, the most common being -ToHit, Chance for Confuse, and End Drain. I'll have to log my brute in and let them beat on me or a bit so I can pull up the power info in Real Numbers again.)


Edit:
I think rather than that being them saying they were looking into it, they were saying that should they make a Whip set, it would probably be an Assault set, and not a melee set as most people were/are wanting. I could be mistaken though.

Umm... I didn't make ANY suggestions ANYWHERE in this thread AT ALL. In fact that was my ONLY post.

Soo, yeah.... Gold Star for you my friend.