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almost exactly what I am trying to say, Stalkers without AS is as effective as a blaster trying to tank. The AT is balanced and a nerf would in fact Break the AT

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Break the AT? Wow, are we being a little over dramatic here? So your saying if AS+ BU only left ppl in PVP with a sliver of hps which required you to follow up with a second fast attack to finish your oppenent off, this would break the AT? Come on give me a break.

There's a few lvl 40 stalkers in my sg that pvp consistantly. You know what they do when they cant AS? They sneak up on someone, hit BU, TF, ET, and BS. Guess what most ppl are dead after that chain of attacks anyhow. The disorients combined with the extreme dmg, combined with the toggle dropping wipe most toons. Some cry me a river with your broken AT.

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Again another wonderful post. When does using two attack mean your using your AT. If your only using two attack then your not playing your toon right. If you can win with twi attacks something is wrong.

Who ever said that will break stalkers if the AS dmg was reduced go play as a rogue on WoW and see what kind of dmg can be done by a stealth class out of stealth.

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This is the one thing I currently dislike about the PvP zones at present, that you must constantly use your travel power to avoid the possibility of a Stalker creeping up behind you. It would be nice to be able to stand in one place and either take in the zone or fight without having to leap away after every few attacks.

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Sounds like you simply don't like to be caught off guard, if you haven't noticed that's the entire point of the AT. To catch you when you least expect it and take you down as fast as they can. I have a feeling that until stalkers are completly gimped unable to sneak on people or take them down no one will ever be really "happy" with them because of the nature of the AT.

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There's no need for them to be "completely gimped" over this issue. For the most part people don't have an issue with being sneak attacked - they have an issue with the very short period of time between initiation of sneak attack and death, which denies them the oppotunity to actually combat.

If Stalkers are such weak combatants that they cannot complete a kill after a successful sneak attack that eliminates, say, 50% of a recipients HP - then that needs to be fixed in tandem with any one-shot fix. And can be. It's not a binary either/or of "Stalkers get to one-shot or they will be gimped".

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This post should be closed after you wrote this above statement. Perfectly said and Thank you.

Well this thread has bounced all over the place so I will just state my opinion to the ORIGINAL Topic.

* I dont think any AT should be able to one-shot any other AT of the same lvl regardless of build type(if they have 100%hp and no inspirations or buffs).*

Being a great rogue in WoW and a Scrapper and Dominator in Coh/Cov I see one-shotting as a problem in PvP. **** thats not pvp anymore thats not even fighting thats... pressing a button doing nothing. Now a stalker doing around 75% dmg to a caster AT is reasonable(stalkers were never made to one-shot another melee class other than stalkers) cuz they actually have to fight after the attack goes off. Most stalkers in Solo pvp just AS and if they miss or you dont die they run away and re-hide and try again.

Ok now all the stalkers say thats how we win a fight..... Well using one or two moves isnt playing your AT.

I actually dont even want to go any further cuz someone on here will step in and say im wrong but yet there defending a game were pvp isnt anywhere close to being balanced(or even being real pvp).

My last thing is that using 1-3powers isnt playing your AT.