New Dawn

I know of what other defenders can do, I probably knew this before you. I've kept secrets from 2007 that still haven't come to light on these forums. You can tell from all the limitations people put on others from saying what can't be done.

There is more ingame yet to be discovered by most people which is a good thing. If someone can discover something in 2 weeks that took me two years to work out then good on them. If you tell people how to complete the game then shame on you because you've basically taken away a persons chance to discover things for themselves.

The point I am only making really is that TA is a good defender set from which even the STF can be done well to a high degree with.

I have said that the set does require tweaks but when there is so much comparing that puts TA in a bad light without discussing its goodpoints someone has to mention a couple of good points.

TA gets a bad rep from people who can't work it out, whether to play with or to team with. Then even with people who can work it out to a good extent they look at each power separately and compare figures showing TA to look bad and leave it with a bad rep. Nevermind things like the fact that you don't need an anchor.

In the end you end up with someone who loves TA somewhere who can't get in a team from it from all the painful posts people make about it. Which is BS. The truth of the matter is TA qualifies as a defender set. You can get plenty of the game content done with it providing you and the team can offer eachother the flexibilities required. If you can't offer eachother the flexibilities required then whose fault is that? TA is there, people play it, some better than others.

Most of the time with my TA I am doing normal content and teams don't struggle with normal content. So what is the problem with TA in such circumstances?

It is said that the defenders are the most balanced set. Maybe that was said before TA came out and before Sonic came out. I have to as a Tanker create survivability for others by directing effects away from them. If a controller isn't held they can do more of what they do. If a blaster isn't stuck in his own solo fight struggling with one target he can aoe the team and do greater dpe for the rest of the team etc etc. All I need to do is help others and they even if its by support fire help me and everyone else back. I have to look at every defender set and merely be concerned with what they can do for me, which will help me do more for the team. In doing that I can look at every defender, think of creating survivability with their help and say yes that any defender will do. I am not fussed, ergo from looking at TA, TA qualifies as a defender, because I can do, teamed with them whatever it is some people require as much as 3 or 4 other defenders for, such as the STF. Gotta eat my dinner now.

In the spirit of christmas.. actually no, gaming. I rather lose an argument than do something like write a guide or whatever. Purely because if a guide were to mention everything someone needed to know, the game becomes unchallenging and well for me not worth playing. The vagueness doesn't exist from me thinking that nobody can see what I am on about, it's from me thinking that as many players where possible should discover the game for themselves.

Someone else has said that I have said to take all 9 but I haven't. I do myself as I made a TA to play one.

Half of a characters game time might be getting to 50. So if you've played your TA for a 1000 hours you might of taken how long getting to 50? Low levels aren't so important. I saw mine through, a blur really as I teamed all the way..Now I have a team TA with which decent players can get on alright with.

[QUOTE]TA is not suitable for large team play. The mitigation it offers is so intricately linked to recharge times that any team which is not struggling will find that the TA is contributing little to mitigation, because the available powers simply can't be recharged quickly enough to keep up. And any team which is struggling is going to continue to do so because even when a TA's powers are recharging quickly enough to be used more than once during a fight, they either don't stack or weren't mitigating damage or contributing to "kill speed" sufficiently (if they were, they wouldn't be used more than once during a fight).

TA is not suitable for "only defender on the team" play. The alpha mitigation is horrendous and the design of the set requires the player to risk that alpha, or exploit weaknesses in the critter AI, in order to provide mediocre mitigation for the rest of the team. That's stupid. It's badly designed and in desperate need of a review.

And TA doesn't even offer combat improvement well enough to offset the lack of appropriate mitigation. Acid's radius is idiotically small, Disruption's endurance cost and 10 target limit are just moronic in light of what it actually does and OSA has never been reliable (and is detrimental to teams with pets), nor is it available frequently enough to compensate for "everything else".

Yes, many of us who are considered "experts" can cite examples which refute those conclusions. The problem with that is that the vast majority of players aren't experts on TA, nor can any information passed along in a guide grant them with the expertise needed to circumvent the enormous flaws in TA.

Nor will telling people that they just need to take every power in the primary solve anything or make the set perform better. You do more harm than good with that kind of foolishness. The set needs to be fixed, not downplayed as just being underrated and "fine, as long as you take every power and use them all". And teams need to want a TA along because they're just as useful and effective as any other type of defender, not because they felt sorry for the player behind the TA and decided to "bring them along" as a virtual pity ****.[QUOTE]

My TA has existed since TAs have come out, it's no pity spot taker. If I see one as a leader it wouldn't get looked over for something else.

I will say that all of TAs powers have an area of use. If you're unequipped to suit those areas from not having the power then whose fault is that?

I do understand that other defenders are more effective for the typical player with less powers, I am not against tweaking.

But I will repeat my main point again. TA qualifies as a defender set.

I don't believe that is what I said. I could skip EMP no problem. Your reply is now out of context no?

Every power has to offer something for either you or a team member. You can either take those powers and be able to offer conditions or skip them and be incapable of offering those conditions.

It's what a TA can do with other people that matters. People can draw short straws for themselves and fail at making a TA potentially good for a teams needs or a team can fail at playing in a way that is to a TAs strengths. Same with any type of defender.

Using the same secondary effects that scrappers and trick archers can get and tanking in a way that I could for a trick archer (though I've never needed to with my tanker) with my scrapper survivability for the entire team gets created.

You can disagree with me on that because I never said anything of the sort.

I don't think you've read my post well enough.

Very naughty..

TA defenders qualify as defenders. Potentially other players can do very well on the back of a TAs potential support if they can play to a TAs strengths. Many don't know how to, many haven't really got the ability to. Where ingame, people can work fully to a TAs strengths, their average local TA doesn't pick enough of the right powers and are incapable of offering the entire flexibility that a TA can offer.

It can offer a opportunity for people to create a great amount of survivability for eachother and even succeed in support where other defender types can only fail but most people are too blind to see its assets put together versus the game and even if they do, theyre built in a way that can't make complete use of them. I just want an end friendlier build after using EMP, so I can use it more often, keep supporting as usually needed and maybe see TA get more love than it can currently get. As eggs is eggs from my tankies perspectives a TA is as good as any.

you're still naughty

Those two suggestions if implemented would make TA a GOD for anyone with half a brain so I think it's unlikely you will see that. TA is under rated as is because it's so under utilised.

With all your power choices this is how I might of slotted it. End drain is good if you can end drain long before you or anyone else would of mullered the target being that I'd hardly need it I moved it out. This is the sort of base idea I would do. Accuracy would be lower than with some peoples builds but it maybe that you team with buffers/debuffers anyway and if anything I would single Acc IO them anyway and perhaps get a kismet +tohit. But anyway base ideas are starters to let ya put the final tweaks in yaself.