Nethergoat

You mean eeebil blackhearted schemes like "selling drops" and "crafting the occasional recipe drops for sale"?

You don't need marketeering to make a gigantic pile of inf in this game, it's just one efficient reward path. In my experience simply playing the game and selling excess drops on the market generates a tremendous amount of inf. All it requires is paying a tiny bit of attention to what you're doing.

Playing for months and having 187 million to show for it is great if you're a 'casual gamer' with limited interest in efficiency & high end loot. For someone who wants 'the good stuff' and is "grinding" for rewards, that total is so pathetic it's hilarious.

Either adjust your expectations downward (187 mill will after all buy a LOT of build) or learn how to earn rewards efficiently.

you're doing it wrong.

How does splitting drops with teammates increase your chances?

he's boring (as Superman analogs always are) and that half-helmet is silly looking.

He needs a re-boot!

I wonder how many hundreds of hours of gameplay it would take for one player to outfit themselves using only their own drops?
It's theoretically possible, but comically inefficient.

And no need to worry about 'my supply', I picked up everything I wanted before they nerfed farming. The market regs saw the famine coming and a bunch of us stocked up accordingly.


I've got all the PO's I need, and could afford more if I wanted them.
But if part of the intent of POs is to lure people into trying PvP (and it is) the current situation isn't healthy.

so your solution to no supply is to further limit supply?

Interesting.

Back in one of those giganto threads on the old forums I made the point that MA was just the latest incarnation of The Cancer That Is Killing The Game.

Here's hoping you have more luck getting the point across than I did. =)

From my perspective the problem isn't the drop rate, it's the lack of players generating drops.

But if you can't get people to PvP, you probably need to loosen up the drops or provide an alternative supply method ala tickets or merits.

I'm all for 'super rare and ultra expensive', but you need some baseline of supply to keep the rubes interested.

that one is funny.

=)

Only the people who don't know what they're doing need to 'stand around'.

server population has nothing to do with wealth generation.

and you don't need to 'stand around' to make bank unless you want to.
playing the game and selling drops works great too.

I think he's saying you can't get drops if there's nobody to fight.

Your definitions remain uselessly narrow.

If you insist that content that "needs improvement" doesn't count, there goes roughly 1/2 the game. I've been playing some of the older stuff lately, and it stinks on hot ice.

And you're ignoring the fact that MA is for the devs as well.
It should greatly magnify their ability to produce what you see as the only "real" content.

Repetition of content is what MA is designed to alleviate.
Although I agree the interface stinks and has tremendous room for improvement.

And yet earlier in the post you sing the praises of how the predictability of 'official' content is something laud and celebrate.

I'm not here to convince anybody what they like- enjoy the game however you want. But the devs have introduced a whole truckload of content in the last year or so, whether you think it qualifies or not.

MA is content.
A gigantic, foaming ocean of content, somewhat intimidating in its breadth and depth.

No, the devs didn't personally create the missions, but they did create the tools and turn players loose on them. Ignoring that reality is to use a worthlessly restricted definition of "content".

If you can't find an interesting, fun MA story to run in a couple of minutes, you're doing it wrong.

Even with the less than stellar search tools available in MA, it isn't that tough to find a solid arc to run. It could be a lot simpler and more intuitive, yeah, but it isn't impossibly hard either.

This ties in with the point I made earlier about viewing AE as either the Farmer's Paradise or the RP'ers Paradise, with no appreciation for the reality that it's both.

As this thread points out, I've been running some "real" content lately.
And I've been running some AE content...both 'farm' maps and 'story' maps (And here I'll recommend Lady Sadako's Dev Choice arc on the 5th Column- tough {for my ar/dev anyway} but lots of fun, and chock full of good dialog & interesting plot).

MA is whatever you want it to be.
It's sad so many people see nothing but a reflection of their own prejudices instead of appreciating the breadth of gameplay it suppots.

Also, another comment about the convinience of AE & how it applies to 'story' types as well as 'farmers':
I was running a mission this morning that killed me several times (a half-slotted ar/dev not being the world's most survivable hero- I'm slowly frankenslotting him after languishing in retirement since ED). It warned me I might need friends, so I didn't begrudge the toughness of the challenge.

What was really nice though was when I got defeated, the hospital was right there. A vendor selling inspirations was right there- wow, I can just buy a couple of Break Frees and defenses, nice! And the mission door was about three feet away.

Instead of wasting X number of minutes running to a contact or the market for insps and trudging back to the mission door (which can be a non-trivial annoyance, depending on the zone and the location of the mission), I was able to stock up and get back to the fight in not much more time than it took to zone through the door.

MA's convinience applies to everyone who uses it.
Rather than investigating ways to make MA less user friendly, we should be considering ways for 'real' content to be more user friendly.

I used to take travel powers at 14, build be damned, because I HATED jogging around to missions so much.

Nowadays, with the bank mission temps, it isn't such an ordeal and I generally wait until the later levels. Being able to take an extra attack or two at the low levels can make life a lot easier.

And what I'll do if I'm REALLY feeling motivated is re-spec later on and stuff a travel power back in at the low levels. I like to exemplar down, and losing your travel power can be annoying.

But I usually put it off as long as I can.