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Quote:We don't hang out with him IRL, so what he's "really" like is irrelevant.Originally Posted by Vox Populi
The problem here (and with many posters) is that you're talking about an imaginary person in your head, based loosely on someone in real life.
You can't tell much about a person from a few message board posts and interviews, especially when most of those were done with selling a product in mind, not being himself.
Players of this game 'knew' enough about his public persona to make informed decisions about how they felt about that persona. -
Quote:farmers didn't define freakshow XP, the devs did.Originally Posted by Xyzyx
Nothing to see here...just another example of how farming never effects regular game play.
If you insist on blaming someone, pick the right group. -
Quote:COOriginally Posted by Vtorch
1.That's not true, the system requirements are not that much higher as I would say that they are about the same.
CoHQuote:Recommended System Configuration
- OS:Windows XP SP2/ Windows Vista/Windows 7 (32 or 64-bit)
- CPU:Intel E8400 Core2Duo or Better
- Memory:2GB RAM or Better
- Video:NVIDIA GeForce 8800 or Better / ATI Radeon HD 3850 or Better
- Sound:DirectX Compatible Soundcard
- DirectX:Version 9.0c or Higher
- HDD:5GB Free Disk Space
- Network:Broadband Required
- Disc:6X DVD-ROM or Better
what planet do you live on where those are "about the same"?Quote:Recommended System Requirements:
Microsoft® Windows® 2000/XP
Intel® Pentium® 4 2.0 GHz or AMD® Athlon™ XP 2000+
1 GB RAM
16X CD-ROM Drive
4 GB Available HDD Space
NVIDIA® GeForce™ 6200
16-bit Sound Card
Broadband Internet Connection
DirectX® 9.0c
The minimum specs are even more laughably disparate.
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on topic, I16 is going to turn the market on its ear.
CO won't have any meaningful impact. -
I'm another non-MMO gamer who has been with CoH since forever.
The only other one I've messed around with was WoW, when ED chased me off.
I really like comic book superheros, that's why I picked the game up in the first place, that's why I'm still here. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Hell_Jumper
Theres a Party??? where??? where!!! I will bring the Patron
This gives new meaning to the term Patron Pool. -
Quote:It took until I9 for the other shoe to drop, so from ED until inventions everyone in the game was stuck with underperforming characters.Originally Posted by Manofmanychars
-Everyone may have hated ED at first, but it's actually turned out to be okay, and I guess it's not bad.
I'm glad it eventually worked out, but I'm also glad I canceled after ED. -
Quote:Why must you pollute this forum with your lies?Originally Posted by Black_Strike
Hi folks.
I didn't come here to Rant, Flame, or Troll. -
Quote:Too late, I ignored him in that other thread after he basically said "well yeah he's right about everything, but he was rude to me so I called him names anyway!"Originally Posted by enrious2
Probably a wise move.
And while the new ignore is vastly superior to the old one, it still doesn't blank out quoted posts. In this case I am forced to call to the Alien One's attention that I can call Paragon Wiki's definition of farming "garbage" without calling the institution itself "garbage".
A discerning observer can learn much about the quality of Alien One's thinking by observing its posts. -
Quote:thanks for the tip Sam- hopped in this AM but didn't notice much of a level difference between the Atlas and Skyway rikti spawns. No mentalists, but all the spawns I found had 2-4 chief soldiers, which would take so long to whittle away I passed on the opportunity.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
By the way, there's a little trick you can do. If you go to Atlas Park and enter the Abandoned Sewers from there, you only have to go past around two-three spawns of level 36 Hydra before you run into fairly low-level Rikti, I think 36-37. They're still tough with two bosses per spawn, but at -1 to -2, not impossible.
I guess I could blow away the little guys and zip to the next spawn, but that would also take forever.
I'll just wait a bit and clear it with mission drop.
funny note-
decided to run a few radios in Founders this am, opened my contact window, and WTH, no radio!
Yep, it'd been so long since I actually played this guy he hadn't talked to a detective to unlock the radio. Hah. -
Quote:Dev's Choice missions will drop purples.Originally Posted by RinoS4be
Well it is my understanding there is no way to get purples at all from AE, period.
My fave high level farming mish is the 'close mystic portals' BP map.
I run it with my fire/rad, and it's gonna be SO SWEET when I can max the spawns and not worry about those damn masks. -
Quote:Gimping rewards would have fatally undermined the whole intent of the system.Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
Seems that there will no throttling or limiting of rewards at all as some of us feared there might be.
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Quote:On the other hand, AE has been my refuge from the really ***-tastic 'official' content my ar/dev has been painfully slogging through this week.Originally Posted by Ironblade
I've played some really extraordinary AE arcs but haven't been in there lately because you have to wade through so much garbage.
Steven Sheridan should have a little Biohazard warning icon floating over his head to warn people off.
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howcome I can say 'crap' but not '***'?
weird filter. -
Quote:You're goofy.Originally Posted by Heraclea
The problem with underselling on the market for moral reasons is the likelihood that whatever you sell will end up in the hands, not of someone who's going to use the salvage, but someone who will relist it for closer to the going rate to make an unethical gain. I'd rather vendor the surplus myself.
there is no ethical component to how people use their pretend money on the fake game market to buy stuff that doesn't exist and that they don't need anyway. -
Quote:I'm a self described hardcore player and I'm allergic to math. I don't pay any attention to numbers, I just observe effects.Originally Posted by EnigmaBlack
I for one have always thought of "hardcore" gamers (in CoH) to be the ones that whip out the math; the ones that discovered and put to use the numbers before they were made available. I can think of a half dozen from the scrapper forums alone.
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Quote:You not understanding it is different from it not having meaning.Originally Posted by SoulTouch
Has more meaning then any of you previous posts on this thread tbh.
I think there's a social group called Butt Hurt Nethergoat Stalkers you can join if you need a shoulder to cry on. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Clouded
I think the problem lies with players trying to define something that isn't clearly definable.
My ingame time is considered casual, 10 hours a week now. However, when I'm ingame I like to find the best loot to make my characters represent my mind's goal for them. Even if finding the loot takes weeks or months, I will eventually finish the build(s).
Is that 'hardcore?' Not from where I sit.
I see hardcore as someone who takes the game mightly seriously and puts forth much more effort into leveling, learning and completing their builds.
I use to be 'hardcore' but now I just enjoy my time ingame; blasting, defending, chatting, selling, buying, respecing, etc.
The problem is people are trying to define behaviors, which is rather pointless. "Oh if you play X hours a week, you're hardcore...oh if you grind badges, you're hardcore...oh if you spam the forums, you're hardcore." That's about as useful as saying "oh if you run a mission 100 times you're a farmer".
A meaningful definition needs to define the wellspring of the behavior, not the streams it generates.
I define 'hardcore' as a frame of mind. A player that sets expansive goals and achieves them is 'hardcore' to me, regardless of how much or little they play or how they go about achieving those goals.
A player that goes with the flow, playing through the game and taking things as they come, not investing much special effort into ancillary stuff like phat lewt or accolades, is 'casual' to me.
And again, most people fall between the two poles.
KeepDistance (or whatever his name is now- mind4everburning?) earned a billion inf in a month, starting from 0 on a new character. That is HARDCORE.
I'm approaching a billion on the Goat right now, and he's been pecking away at it since I9. That's still 'hardcore', but it's an order of magnitude less hardcore than Keep's feat. -
Quote:Brilliant & insightful as usual.Originally Posted by SoulTouch
BS.
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Eeeebil!
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Quote:If you have a multi-billion inf IO monster build that is optimized for performance, you're hardcore even if you're only logging in 30 minutes a week.Originally Posted by Calash
The items you have do not define your playstyle.
If you have a couple of purples and some okay sets because you got most of them as drops and picked up some stuff on the market because you were curious about it, that's casual, even if you play 20 hours a week.
And of course there is the vast middle ground between the two arbitrary designations "hardcore" and "casual" where most players fall.
The stuff you slot and how you slot it goes a long way toward defining whether you approach the game in a casual way or not. I can only play a few hours a week now, broken up into small chunks, but I have a couple of set IO monster builds and several characters pushing a billion inf. I am by no means casual in spite of my limited game time. -
Quote:You just did.Originally Posted by SoulTouch
Well I just love how you are twisting what I said. No running missions is clearly not farming. No one on these forums claimed that.
Maybe that isn't what you meant, but that's what the words you typed mean. And on a forum we're limited to what you type, not what's running through your head as you type it.
I've run plenty of missions in this game over 100 times.Quote:Repeating a mission 100 times over or whatnot with or without a team IS farming. Fact.
That's farming?
If I run them 99, is it not farming?
Your definition stinks. Think up a better one.
You know what they say....garbage in, garbage out.Quote:And not my defintion. It's paragonwiki's definition.
Using someone else's crap definition doesn't get you off the hook. -
well on the plus side, this morning really made me appreciate the little amenities they've added to the game over the years.
Minus Oro the trek from the tail end of Bricks to Perez Park is a decent hike, and pre-mission dropping I'd be stuck with that 'hunt rikti' until I leveled a time or two and trivialized the mentalists. And all the time I spent getting held would have sucked a lot worse without 'newfiance'. Being able to plink away while you're held makes it a lot less annoying, for some reason. -
Further 'adventures' with Steven Sheridan:
for some reason I woke up before my son this AM and had some time to kill- how better than by revving up CoH for some early morning mayhem?
Logged in my ar/dev to check his marketeering (today's free tip: there's plenty of profit in flipping Alchemical Gold right now!) and decided to run a couple of missions before the Tiny Dictator awoke.
Today Sheridan is obsessed with rescuing doctors from the Rikti.
I accidentally took a 'hunt 40 rikti' mission, but since I was standing at the gate to Crey's Folly that wasn't a problem. Call Sheridan, "rescue doctors from Riki in Creys!"
Okay, no problem.
Next mission, Rescue Doctors from Rikti in...Perez Park?
Well, I guess that's what Oroboros is for.
I hop to Atlas, jog over to Perez- mission is on the other side of the zone.
On my way I clean house on Skulls (buckshot slotted for KB + giant spawns of deep gray Skulls = fun) and pick up both the Defeat badges- hooray for multitasking!
I find the mish, which happily was not buried deep in the canopy...and it's an old purple cave. GAH.
And yes, the hostages were all secreted in hidden rocky nooks, thank you very much. Since I'd done this a thousand times before I still found them in short order (happily not many stealth-ignoring drones in the mix) and called Mr. Sheridan.
"Uh...talk to this guy at City Hall in Atlas!"
Grrr.
Jog to Atlas, talk to guy.
"Oh hey, good job- now, uh, go rescue some more doctors in Perez!"
GRRR.
Jog back to Perez, the mission is over by the Boathouse, not too annoying.
Nice bonus, it's one of the new cave/rikti homeworld maps (at this point it doesn't take much to make me happy- hooray for low expectations).
Finish mission, call Sheridan again.
"hey, could you help out the Security Chief in Skyway?"
Wow, I haven't helped out a security chief since I figured out running low level missions actually retarded your levelling speed!
Off to Skyway, find the guy- defeat 40 rikti in sewers.
sigh.
Stealth let me zip by the giant spawns of Spawn and CoT and find some riki- lots of cheif soldiers (which aren't too bad, even with the ridiculous sm/lethal resists) and MENTALISTS, which are bad.
I burn all my inspirations mowing two spawns, get careless and let a chief soldier get too close & it's hospital (and log off) time.
I guess it's back to MA for a bit while I wait for my 'drop mission' timer to reset =P
Today is one reason radios were so popular when they came out- nothing I did this morning was any more interesting or involving than running radio missions, except that it ran me all over the game instead of letting me sensibly stay in one level-appropriate zone. -
Quote:So running missions is farming?Originally Posted by SoulTouch
You are wrong.
Farming
The act of repeating an action a number of times for the purpose of earning something from the repeated action.
Some of these definitions are hilarious.
Do y'all think about things before you post? -
Quote:It is a common misconception that one opinion is as good as another.Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Until the devs step up and give us their definition of "casual," my definition is just as valid as yours.
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Quote:If these changes make 'regular' content more efficient than MA for generating rewards (as I expect it will), the farmers will defect en masse.Originally Posted by Mylia
I think that is will not be a complete exodus of MA farming like this. I think the farming will balance between PI and MA. Although I am no CoX market expert, but to me it seems that there will be more supply in all around (positively thinking).
Farmers follow the most efficient reward path, they don't vacillate between choices- one will generate better rewards than the other, and that's the one they will flock to.
I expect 'real' missions to win out- we'll see when I16 arrives.