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meetup with some competitions (hottest hunk etc) though there were thoughts of games, however a bit of a prob implementing it

nah first it was: player kills you - 0% debt, NPC kills you 100% debt. After that it was whoever killed you, the amount of damage the NPC did was incurred as debt, so if you were hurt to 99% by a NPC and 1% by player, you'd still get 99% debt. Think this system is currently the fairest of all though

aye its fun to see stalkers whine in PvP when the only thing they can do is AS and they finally found an opponent who doesnt let them AS. It's all "ZOMG! you r such c0w4rd!" "fight like a man" etc etc.. well boohoo, maybe they shouldve learned to play their AT well and find out most attack sets got some nice other powers that can cripple an enemy before you land the fatal blow (be it critical or AS).

Always fun to see moronic stalkers whine in sirens when I run hurricane on my troller and they cant AS me (well unless its a proper stalker, but then again, its much more of a fight when you meet one of these ). They start complaining "turn off hurricane cheater!".. sure not taking into account I got no +perc and cant see them while theyre running hide. Or of course the fact they could use other attacks to get me *cough*impale*cough*.

Anyway, conclusively, anything goes in an arena duel, if he starts complaining bout it, well, thats his problem

simply put, yeah.. every char, be they AFK or not, in safe zone or not, is fair game. If you really want to go afk without risk of being killed, stand inside the hospital or leave the zone.

however its pretty hard to get that accolade cause of the banisher and illusionist badge needed

also archery is great for PvP due to the fact its hard to backtrace a shot, meaning you can do surprise attacks without the enemy detecting you easier.

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I'll be there if you make it 50, I'm not respeccing downwards 'cos people can't be bothered to level. Likewise, if I enter a villain I will be 38+ and fighting at 50 and none too fussed.

Sounds great otherwise

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i dont think thats why its at 40, i believe its at 40 because it makes matches a lot more fast paced and more fun as there are a lot more kills

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aye its 40 because of imo pvp being fairer due to the lack of epics (as also said before, epics bring more to pvp than patrons). Also it has a faster pace and finally generally a bigger crowd that can participate. It has been shown on 3vP that lvl 40 matches can be great fun, even when you normally fight at 50. If you dont want to join at 50, well only thing I can say, dont join

Maybe if this time it turns out to be a good event a second edition will come with weightclasses.

kinda the same experiences you just summed up.. ah well guess the more reason to DO pick taunt from your set

yeah, thats why i put max of 1 AT in it, with the restrictions listed in the OP. Never fought mixed pentads so reckoned it would be fun to try out, maybe find some interesting new combos. Already found out in 3vP that controller+dominator can be pretty nasty to fight against

Ok, seeing there is interest, I opened the signup threads. 1 for union here
and one for defiant here

Just like the onions, defiant will receive some Suckerpunch! as well. Signups will be open for an undetermined amount of time, but basically until there are enough teams to get it started. The level range at which the fights will be held is 38-40. For more information, check this topic.

Precise rules will be posted as soon as there are enough contestants. These include timespan of the tourney etc, cause they depend on the amount of contestants. So get going, and signup!

Please signup in the following format:

Your team's name
Characters in team (name, AT, global)
Also mark your team leader with a *. The teamleader will be the contact between me as organization and the team, this to coordinate the communication.

For instance post it in format like this:

Team wtfpwnzz0r

*FotMan - scrapper - @zomg
blapblap - blaster - @Faceplant
Ucnttchthis - tanker - @illiterate
nomoreinspiration - corrupter - @something
lastman - defender - @finally

Remember this signup thread is for signups from defiant only. For discussion bout the event, or looking for teammates, please check out the general event topic.

right, seeing as there apparently is enough interest for the suckerpunch PvP event, I decide to go through with starting it. Henceforth, the signup thread. Signups will be open for an undetermined amount of time, but basically until there are enough teams to get it started. The level range at which the fights will be held is 38-40. For more information, check this topic.

Precise rules will be posted as soon as there are enough contestants. These include timespan of the tourney etc, cause they depend on the amount of contestants. So get going, and signup!

Please signup in the following format:

Your team's name
Characters in team (name, AT, global)
Also mark your team leader with a *. The teamleader will be the contact between me as organization and the team, this to coordinate the communication.

For instance post it in format like this:

Team wtfpwnzz0r

*FotMan - scrapper - @zomg
blapblap - blaster - @Faceplant
Ucnttchthis - tanker - @illiterate
nomoreinspiration - corrupter - @something
lastman - defender - @finally

Remember this signup thread is for signups from union only. For discussion bout the event, or looking for teammates, please check out the general event topic.

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Shut up and put my name down n00b. (Pending me getting a team >.&gt

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and surely you can join team spag n me

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And i'm a Union person me.

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really? I DID not know that

right, judging from the responses I reckon theres enough interest in such an event. Not sure what server everybody is but I take the reactions are mixed union/defiant rigt?

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When you use volcanic gaz or earthquake, it'll often take a few seconds before the effect works, and in 6-8 ppl groups it can be too much damage.


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and thats why you shouldnt open with gas or earthquake, but with stalagmites

but indeed, I use my rocky as semi-tank to keep me alive as he can take a beating.

uh-huh... "problems"....

anyway grats bud n hun.. sooo whats next?

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Now if cryptic or ncsoft or whoever implemented a dueling option as part of the arena system then i wouldnt have a problem.


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..but there is a duel game type in arena, its just that people are too lazy to walk there. In one way I can see the point, as most of times duels tend to come when there is a big fight in a zone, then 2 people on opposite teams keep being a major pain in the side of the other and they'd like to have a final match to see who's the best in the end. However, when you are in for instance SC, it kinda takes away from the game that you have to walk all the way back to talos or galaxy for an arena. Same goes for the vills having to go to Oakes or Martial for the arena..

I think alot of these problems would be solved if there were arena terminals in or near the zones.

read my above post, for the initial system ill put it on 38-40, if its big enough of a success, I'll prolly do a second version with multiple weight classes like S4, course presuming I got some more people helping me with organizing, as multiple weight classes over multiple servers is too much for 1 person as I also have RL stuff and cant devote all my time to a game.

Date is to be determined as I first want to gauge interest a bit so I can also set a timespan over which the event will take place.

right, to put this discussion to rest, I'll end up doin it 38-40 as somewhat of a test round, if its a success I might do weight classes later.

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50 gets my vote too. I find the EPP's and PPP's cover a much needed gap in any AT.

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And thats the problem with lvl 50, they cover all the gaps. The normal AT weakness is somewhat removed, a squishie is no longer squishie. Buffs become somewhat overpowered with powerboost. But hey its up to you guys.

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aye, that was the main reason I set it for 38-40, personally think PvP is fairer without the PPP and EPP covering all the gaps makin it kinda like teams of 5 GenericHero00123324

well i kinda based this on 3vP with the level range, though if the real majority wants 50 i can cap it to 50, but prob is i think you kinda reduce the amount of people that can/want to join the higher you cap it. Dont really wanna make this event the same old with the same people. Could of course do one for diff weight classes like S4, but I reckon thatd be too much organizing for 1 person.

yeah well, left it out as I kinda thought it was obvious

Step right up, step right up! Presenting a tale of wonderful mysteries, glory and eh.. well.. heroes and villains beating the living daylights outta each other.

Seeing I think it's time to have a S4-like event again, I'm gonna try to put my hand on organizing one myself. However, seeing we now also got those dastardly villains rearing their ugly mugs again, I'd like to try a different approach. Hence I present to you: Suckerpunch!

I hear you say "wow thats so cool, tell me more!".. well that or "yeahyeah, cut the [censored], what you tryin to say?". Either way, this post is to gauge interest and defining the exact rules for the tournament. So here I am posting the general setup I had in mind after talking to some people out there (you know who you are ).

Team setup:

Right, I believe it's general consensus that pentad teams almost always equal fun. However, I'm gonna try a tad bit different approach. While all-hero pentads are fun, I'd like villains to enter the tourney as well, and I think most of you agree that all-vill pentad teams can be relatively weak compared to hero pentad teams. Of course this may also be the lack of experience as heroes has been around for a longer time, but still the case remains.

Therefore, I'm allowing mixed pentads. This mean you can setup a team of 5 characters that are either hero or villain, but of course no two of the same AT. However, to prevent a team of say a brute, stalker, scrapper, tanker and MM for instance, there are some confining rules.

The team of five must consist of 2 of the following:
<ul type="square">[*]Brute[*]Stalker[*]Tanker[*]Scrapper[/list]
and 3 of the following:
<ul type="square">[*]Dominator[*]Corrupter[*]Mastermind[*]Blaster[*]Defender[*]Controller[/list]
For now I will exclude khelds cause I dont know what category to put them in, but if someone got some convincing arguments where they could fit in I might reconsider .

Tournament Setup

Right, so now we know how the teams will be set up, now for the general setup of the tournament. The tournament will be set in the 38-40 level range, as personally I think PvP is at its fairest at that level. Course all you crazy level 50s can join and be put down to 40 . The matches will be a 10 min team duel.

The ranking system will be a mix of a ladder and a league. As I think if there is enough participation, it will be hard to have complete teams show up at regular times and also not contradict with the already existing regular arena events, I decided to start it as a ladder. This means all teams will be put in a ladder where they can challenge the other teams.

Each team is allowed to challenge another team once, of course the challenged team is allowed to counterchallenge, making a total of 2 matches between the teams. Also, a challenged team cannot refuse the challenge, however both teams must agree on a time to fight. Thanks to the ladder system, matches can be held throughout the whole tournament, with teams being responsible for matches themselves.

However, in addition to the challenge and set date system, I also would like to hold regular evenings where teams that want a fight can show up and have a match on that evening to save the hassle of finding a team to challenge, set date, etc etc. Depending on the interest these will be daily or weekly.

Now, as I feel it pretty anticlimactic to have a tournament end by saying after a month or so "ok, so team wtfpwnz0rzz! has won cause they had most points, grats", the final phase of the tournament will be a league. After the ladder period, the top 4, or 8 or whatever will have to fight in a final league to determine who is the winner. This is also to give strong teams but with a lower activity schedule a chance to win, and also prevent active teams to score easy points by only picking on weak teams.

The points on the ladder will prolly be given just like on most sports tournaments by giving 3 points for a win, 1 for a draw and 0 for a lose.

Hope the whole ladder/league system is clear, if not I'll just give a brief summary of how the tourney is SUPPOSED to work.

At the start of the tournament say, 20 teams, join. These 20 teams are put in the ladder and are given say a month the time to challenge each other and rack up as many points as they can. After this month, the top 4 teams will be put in a league, where I will schedule the matches instead of the challenge system. The winner of this little league in the end will be the winner of the tournament.

Servers
Ok, at first I plan to run this on Union as thats my home server after all . However, if there are enough defianteers that show interest, I can either do the following:

1) Like on S4, host 2 seperate tournaments on either server and let the 2 best teams clash together in a final battle on test
2) Combine both tourneys in 1 big tourney on test.

Personally when it has to be cross server I'd prefer the first, but it all depends on interest of course.

Right, so this is the general overview, no exact rules yet as I let those depend on the overall interest. The rules are still open to change if people can probe some very vital weakspots or have other comments. Anyway, if you people are up for such an event, post here and if there is enough interest I'll host it

woop woop! wb bucky think we only teamed once or twice, but still its good to get ppl returnin