MunkiLord

And the truth comes out. You don't actually have any real counter point to what I'm saying, so you resort to that. That's weak.

This was what I was getting at.

I'm not arguing that point. Never was. Of course stamina makes characters more end efficient. I was responding directly to competent builds.

No point in arguing this with you, no chance of either of us changing our minds. My management experience is behind me because it was a crappy paying job and bartending makes me a ton more money. In the right place bartenders frequently make more than most of their managers(GM's/owners typically excluded).

You're wrong again. Like I said, with IOs, it's not hard to do.

Cold Domination- High recharge build. Currently my cold/dark defender has less than a 10 second down time on heat loss(brings me much more endurance that stamina could ever hope to do). Not taking stamina allows that character to add more defenses.

Willpower/Regen- Quick Recovery is better than stamina. Non WP/regen builds do fine with just stamina, therefore those two sets can do just fine without stamina.

Electric Armor/Energy Aura- Both have conserve power and an energy leeching power. CP is long recharge but the others are 60 sec recharge on default which can be brought below 20 seconds. Depending how you slot that can be basically 5 end/sec recovery(more if your max end is above 100).

Warshades-already addressed this.

Radiation Emission(edited in)- This one might be a little harder to pull off. But AM is better than stamina. However with all those toggles and the extra attacking it may require some more finesse in the build to get it to perform the way I think it should(basically running toggles and attack pretty much non stop).

So tell me, how are those examples awful? Give some kind of supporting reasons.

LOL, do you enjoy not knowing what you're talking about.

First, Stygian Circle will fill up your end bar. Problem solved. If there are no bodies to draw from, then you're not doing your job as a Warshade. Stamina also doesn't carry over into the forms.

Second, the customer isn't always right. That is fact. I prefer to think of it as(not sure who I'm quoting): "the customer isn't always right, but they are always the customer and it's ok for them to be wrong" For example, a customer walks into my bar already hammered and thinks they can drink more and that I have to serve them. Simple fact is they are wrong. When I used to manage a place they were also wrong when they were abusive to my employees.

Third, I'll give some examples of builds that don't need stamina. Some require IOs, some don't. I'll let you figure that part out.

Cold Domination(defender or corruptor)
Radiation Emission(Accelerate Metabolism is better than stamina if you get it perma)
Willpower and Regen characters(QR)
Energy Aura
Electric Armor
Warshade(already mentioned)

That is several possible combos that can be made more than competent without stamina. Just because you can't figure it out, doesn't mean it's not true.

The price seems to fluctuate some. I'm just overbidding.

That's what I'm hear for.

I understand what you're saying. I was just mentioning that there is plenty of influence/infamy to be made in AE. Especially if you are optimized for a particular farm. Once i16 goes live I'll be moving back to PI to solo/duo BM again.

I don't like farming in AE. I only do it to push certain characters past levels I don't like. I find boss farming in PuGs boring and frustrating.

I like it a lot better. Supposedly it's better on resources as well and a lot faster. All the big name addons should be updated by now, but you might lose some of the "lesser" addons. For example, I can no longer change anything I type into binary code or leet speak. I never used that addon anyways, just giving an example.

edit: Also, if/when firefox crashes you can now select which(if any) tabs to open back up in case there is only one particular problem site. Not as good as what Chrome does, but it's better than what it used to be.

Here is a link to 3.5's updates: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/features/

The only thing you can't get out of AE is Purples. So people will still get all the other recipes and salvage if they choose to use their tickets that way.

I had this problem about a year ago. This site should help: http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view...9363&forumId=1

The part about deleting cookies.sqlite-journal and cookies.txt file fixed it for me.

Firefox 3.5 has a private browsing mode, tearing off tabs, and there are add-ons to replicate speed dial.

Not it's not. It's AE and double XP. The marketeers just take advantage of the extra demand and lower supply. They don't cause the prices to rise like that.

HAHA. Since when has that stopped you before? Back to making stuff up again. Forum change took you off my ignore list(just realized it), so you once again get to be the only person on it.

Oh I know. It was all me. My tone was all wrong in the post. It's all good. No harm, no foul.

Plenty. It's not hard to do now with IOs.

That is just plain wrong.

Um, Stygian Circle? That's two levels after stamina(and it also means stamina is next to worthless for a WS).

Hyperbole FTW!!!!

Don't give up too much info. You might get kicked out of closed beta.

Someone's being optimistic...

Won't stealth powers stack from different casters? For example, if I have stealth turned on and a teammate stands next to me with Arctic Fog then those will stack. Both the defense and the stealth portions, I think.