MrDead

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you two really should just bone and get that [censored] over with

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Make sure ya warn me with the link though. I need to get nice and [censored] up before i click it!

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You have no idea. Whatever you think you should drink double it.

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Thanks for the tip! I think i am gonna be sick....


Excuse me a moment...

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Ever seen somebody who has hairs ON the hairs on his back.. it's not pretty...

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you two really should just bone and get that [censored] over with

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Pics or didn't happen....


Make sure ya warn me with the link though. I need to get nice and [censored] up before i click it!

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You have no idea. Whatever you think you should drink double it.

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you two really should just bone and get that [censored] over with

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-snicker-

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MrDead,

What do you think that we, as players, should do if we disagree with the service or treatment we have been getting from a game we play a monthly subscription for?

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Vote with your feet. Vote with your wallet. Call CS. Write the dev's mail. But yelling and ultimatums and threats, well, they just have the opposite effect and make people like me talk on the forums. You don't want that
now do you?

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Some of us are voting with feet and wallet, but this is a community we value and discussion of events among your peers is normal and healthy. You aren't posting here as an affect of our actions, you're posting here because you want to or feel you need to. Why, I'm not sure. That's your deal.

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For every action there... eh nm. I actually am posting as a direct result, but whatever.

Ed: Somebody get the kids with the argument over the word 'direct' in here while we're at it.

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Sorry, but wrong. Nothing I or anyone else has posted is making you be here. You're 'choosing' to post. Whether for a misplaced comrade in development perspective, just to air your disagreement, or simply to be obnoxious, I couldn't say.

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Soooo.. what you're saying is.. if these posts didn't exist, your argument wasn't here, and this thread had never been posted... I'd still be here making this post? A simple yes or no will do. Thank you.

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This gamer used to be handled differently. They set the precedent for the level of service I expect.

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Fixed dat ....

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Does that mean I have to service Signal now? Ewwww...

Ed: Can he cook?

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Everyone has to service me eventually. It's just the way of things.

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I see that old Maytag dude coming up to your door with a big ol' grin .....

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Knew I should have gotten those Halloween pictures taken off the interweb..

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MrDead,

What do you think that we, as players, should do if we disagree with the service or treatment we have been getting from a game we play a monthly subscription for?

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Vote with your feet. Vote with your wallet. Call CS. Write the dev's mail. But yelling and ultimatums and threats, well, they just have the opposite effect and make people like me talk on the forums. You don't want that
now do you?

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Some of us are voting with feet and wallet, but this is a community we value and discussion of events among your peers is normal and healthy. You aren't posting here as an affect of our actions, you're posting here because you want to or feel you need to. Why, I'm not sure. That's your deal.

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For every action there... eh nm. I actually am posting as a direct result, but whatever.

Ed: Somebody get the kids with the argument over the word 'direct' in here while we're at it.

I dunno . . . It's hard to judge how you are coming across to a digital audience.


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No Flea I wasn't specifically saying you are yelling etc, you asked what 'We' should do. You seem pretty reasonable, on the other hand I've only read a few of your posts, so I could be wrong.

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MrDead,

What do you think that we, as players, should do if we disagree with the service or treatment we have been getting from a game we play a monthly subscription for?

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Vote with your feet. Vote with your wallet. Call CS. Write the dev's mail. But yelling and ultimatums and threats, well, they just have the opposite effect and make people like me talk on the forums. You don't want that now do you?

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if you bother to read any of the posts i made, you would have seen that not only did i post relevant info to the op but i also asked him to answer any questions without using the word "farm". none of which he has done. don't try to bash people for stating the obvious, which you seem to do very well.

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I admit it, you were right. This totally was an anti-farming thread in disguise. Good call, my bad, your-expression-of-choice-here.

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This gamer used to be handled differently. They set the precedent for the level of service I expect.

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Fixed dat ....

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Does that mean I have to service Signal now? Ewwww...

Ed: Can he cook?

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On the topic of trust...I don't think anyone is saying that the developers should 100% trust the playerbase. Yes, there are players who can and will abuse the game and that is a valid enough reason not to trust all players.

But, there should be adequate communication between the developers and the players so their customers trust them. And that can be accomplished with reopening the lines of communications so the developers can interact with the playerbase like they used to and can listen to the players' feedback again.

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You know I've never fired up a game and thought 'I hope I can trust these developers'

BUT you do have a valid point in general. The dev's should communicate with the players and listen to their feedback. However I'm not saying they should agree with them or do what they want in any way. Especially under duress as has been the case lately such as 'Listen to me or I'll quit'.

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I've stated in the past, but I'm fairly certain that I wouldn't last long subscribed to any service you were providing, given your mentality.

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Sounds like you're right. MMO's aren't for you.

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Did you miss the "Log-out protest" monday? or was that just a Justice thing?

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Everybody I know missed it.

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And aren't you the same troll who's been baiting the Farewell Threads in the Justice Forums?

So Don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about.

The fact that there even is a "Farewell" thread should be a indication of the state of current morale.

there were unhappy people, some were guilty, some were innocent, some of those innocent were veterans and are leaving, (MrDead knows many of the people I'm talking about, but I'm sure he'll only have rude things to say, just as he has ruined what were solemn goodbye threads in the justice forums)

On the scale of Catastrophes it's not Star Wars Galaxies, but it's at least comparable to ED, and sure, CoX recovered from ED, and there have been a lot of fun times since. But right now, today, is a bad day, so, if you've waited this long, wait another two weeks, things will have settled down, equilibrium will be reestablished, and I15 looks promising.

So here's hoping that tomorrow is a better day, and if you end up on Justice, we will make you very welcome.

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I wear my troll badge proudly because it annoys you rocky-horror-my-space-emo-drama clones.

But you keep trying to keep people from coming back and pointing at me and saying 'He's a bad guy!'
-snicker-

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They aren't. They don't and they can't.

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It's the business model that's worked for MMO's since the beginning. You can't treat your actual player base like adults and you can't trust them. Dev's know this. The producer knows this. The mods know this. QA knows this. The crappy decisions you all keep harping on about is your opinion of those decisions, which everybody doesn't share and clearly certainly not the dev's opinion of said decisions.

I don't see the business model really folding in on itself either since there's a constant influx of new kids who don't know any better and don't just assume they deserve everyone's respect simply for existing but that's just speculation on my part.

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Drugs are bad.

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LIES.

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When you're right, you are right!

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Geez, what'd drugs ever do to you?

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Drugs are bad.

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LIES.

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Did you miss the "Log-out protest" monday? or was that just a Justice thing?

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Everybody I know missed it.

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Why are you guys getting so worked up about a suggestion that has no chance in hell of ever happening? And people who know my posting history understand what a stretch it is for me to say that because I think most things are at least possible.

I don't even think the devs would ever entertain this idea.

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It's one thing to just say "Nah." However, many of us have tried to give the OP reasons why, figuring *understanding* would help out -

Unfortunately, it seems that attempt at bringing understanding is now strongly resembling attempts to pound a wet noodle through a fortified concrete wall with a whiffle bat.

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I missed something. Most were just saying 'You're a troll' 'This is a farming thread in disguise' and other blatant name calling.

In your defense you weren't one of them...

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So, this is a serious suggestion, and one you're not likely to support, but hear me out. It's based on a couple of assumptions.

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I see what your thinking is with this but it is a pretty bad idea. I mean just from character names alone... Do they get put back in the pool or what?

Most people have been playing the same character for years and are extremely attached to them, as I am. It's an interesting idea but I'll say unworkable in any practical way and impossible to get any support for from anybody.

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As far as I know it got shelved a few years ago. Oh well.
Ironically you could probably "simulate" it using your own mods to the HERO System or some such.

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GURPs and GURPs supers.

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I use Trillian.

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same

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I used to use trillian but I switched out to miranda because it's fairly customizable. Trillian is pretty solid though.

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I need to set up some form of IM dealie, and when I do, I'll update that info here. Yahoo messenger will almost certainly be jn_zizka and any other messenger will be something very similar.

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Try miranda. It's a multi protocol chat client. It's also freeware.

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All anyone wants is a statement regarding this past weeks fiasco and the poor handling of it and some CS changes.

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I mean no snark and no dis in this question: But what are you talking about? What fiasco? I am seeing all these posts about people being so angry... about WHAT?! I have yet to see anything in-game to be angry about.

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There's a new nazi regime. If you don't do exactly what Posi says you get banned. Also the forum members have all made a suicide pact and are going to kill themselves if Posi doesn't publicy apologize and name each one of them individually. Or something like that.

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Something tells me that that is as snarky as I tried not to be.

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Eh, yeah, you have a good point.

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All anyone wants is a statement regarding this past weeks fiasco and the poor handling of it and some CS changes.

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I mean no snark and no dis in this question: But what are you talking about? What fiasco? I am seeing all these posts about people being so angry... about WHAT?! I have yet to see anything in-game to be angry about.

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There's a new nazi regime. If you don't do exactly what Posi says you get banned. Also the forum members have all made a suicide pact and are going to kill themselves if Posi doesn't publicy apologize and name each one of them individually. Or something like that.

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I just looked at your reg date....youve been here a long time for the amount of hatred your harbor towards your fellow CoH players lol.

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oh it's not just CoH players. Also for the record I agree with everything you just said. I'm not a big fan of the 'it's just a game line'

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What's your deal then? I really am curious why you're so singular of scope and bitter.

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Suffice it to say I've had a long, hard, and not entirely pleasant life. I've been on these games as long as it's been possible and I've seen all this come and go plenty of times.

Most of you have already decided who and what I am, so none of my life matters anyway and I'm comfortable with that.

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Welcome to the community, Dead. FWIW, if you want us to hate, you we can do that too. But we'd rather get to know you before we hate you. Who knows, we may wind up liking you.

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Thank you sir and or madam, I appreciate the sentiment. I wouldn't talk like that to loud though I'm not really popular around these parts.