MrCaptainMan

Originally Posted by TonyV

I just wish everyone could take a step back and look at the big picture here. They didn't roll out this patch to screw you personally. It's silly to think that they make decisions like these to piss people off and make them leave. It really is about short-term gamer rage versus long-term playability of the game. These guys have busted their butts to promote the latter, and even when I disagree with day-to-day decisions they make, I do respect that.

So if you're really willing to leave over it, you have to understand that the sentiments you are expressing are the exact same sentiments I have seen people express repeatedly for over five years over every single tweak (and major change, for that matter) that has been rolled out. I'm not going to say that the game will be better off without you, but I will say that the game will go on, with or without you. A week from now, I'll forget that you ever existed. Three months from now, no one will even remember this patch. Two years from now, there will be a whole different set of things to be ecstatic and pissed off about.

If you're newer to Paragon City, reading the gamer rage in threads like these, and a bit worried, don't be. Us long-timers know the drill, and you'll get used to it, too. Read some of the "You guys are the BEST!!!" threads to get yourself in a better frame of mind and go have fun.

Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino

Erm, did you mean 'forum section' instead of 'thread'? Cause, for example, Wrong Number hasn't posted in this thread, though you're recommending his arc. And you suggested that we get authors to post in the 'announce your arc' thread, not this one....?

Originally Posted by Sister_Twelve

- Have authors clearly define an arc as a 'story arc' versus a 'leveling arc.'

- Change the interface so that 'leveling arcs' have their own space and are not included with 'story arcs.'

Originally Posted by Arctic_Princess

I have, after some very careful thought, deleted my MA folders and unpublished all of my arcs.

Yes, that includes the DC.

My faith in AE as a viable system in City of... is low. It's the fault of greedy players whose reaction when the original furore over mass exploitation of the AE was commented on by Positron was 'Oh no, we got caught, it's the Devs' fault'.

I liken that reaction to various politicians in the UK who tried to claim that their expenses were legitimate, despite evidence to the contrary. There are other Real Life examples but I have no wish to invoke Godwin's Law.

I would like to request that the hotfix be reverted, as it's not going to stop exploiters (some arcs have already been updated, with the description stating that they have been updated to work around the latest nerfs).

I would then like to see the arcs that contain exploits removed and the publishing privileges of the globals responsible removed.

I would also like to see some evidence of housekeeping, namely the removal of arcs that were exploits that no longer work due to the string of hotfixes.

Then I would like to see more community competitions, to encourage the use of the AE for story-telling: including the recognising of community threads regarding awards, such as the Players' Choice Awards.

If the AE truly was designed as a story-telling device and an alternate levelling method for people who have gone through the content more times than they'd care to mention, then the community competitions could reflect this: A competition to design, for instance, starter arcs (1-5) for Heroes/Villains etc: A competition to design a new arc for the 30-35 range, and so on.

As it stands, the AE is predominantly used by abusers of the system, who will cry out that they're entitled to abuse the system because the tool is there for them to do so. Despite evidence to the contrary.

I'm sick of their lousy attitudes, I'm sick of hotfixes that do nothing except harm legitimate storytellers and designers of alternative levelling content, I feel sorry for those who bought Architect Edition, and this problem needs to be sorted out before GR.

Otherwise there's absolutely nothing to stop lazy abusers rolling a Praetorian, powerlevelling them via exploits in the AE, getting bored, farming tickets and repeating. The longer it goes on the harder it is to undo the damage this player-led exploitation is doing.

Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino

I just have to quote this, because it's a spectacular example of Venture being a hypocrite, as usual. His use of chained objectives here? It's the EXACT. SAME. THING. as what he is objecting to in Quantum Phantom's arc.

Venture's mission: Fight your way to the back of a map, complete an objective, and then fight your way back to the front while taking down a boss along the way.

Quantum Phantom's mission: Fight your way to the back of a map, complete an objective, and then fight your way back to the front while taking down a boss along the way.

The only difference is that in Quantum Phantom's mission, there are two glowies to click along the way. Whee. Just thought I'd point that out.

Originally Posted by Lazarus

So now you're accusing me of being a farm writer? It's obvious that you haven't played any of my arcs then.

In fact, don't play them. I couldn't care less about your opinions after this point.

Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen

I've come to the conclusion that AE has been the single worst concept ever implemented by the dev team. It has done nothing but allow rampant & continued exploits, drained development time & resources away from other projects, seriously screwed up the market, and driven a major wedge between players over the farming issue. Unfortunately, the genie can't be put back in the bottle, and we're going to be forced to deal with it for the remainder of the game.

Originally Posted by Nite Wraith

Okay here's old.

And no it isn't a laptop without a screen



You used to play games on these, three colours, yellow, black and white. Games were on Cassette tape and would take on average 15 minutes to load and would make an awful noise while loading.

You young'uns never had it so good!!

Originally Posted by Dafear

If it helps I don't mind getting zero xp in MA. I do MA for tickets. Increase the amount of tickets in each mission. Tickets to buy training and DO enhancements while saving inf for I/Os. I need tickets for common/arcane salvage which are always in short supply or over priced. I need tickets for uncommon and rare salvage that are in short supply or overpriced on the markets. TICKETS not XP are more important. More tickets please.

Originally Posted by Venture

in the second act of "Splintered Shields": the player arrives at a cargo ship full of Family and a villain (Boss) being attacked by Longbow; when the Boss at the back snuffs it an Arachnos Boss is triggered at the front with a bunch of patrols. You then have to fight your way back out to take him down. No one has objected to it, and most of the time when it's mentioned the feedback has been along the lines of "the fight out is better than the fight in". I could omit the Family and villain and just have the Longbow and Arachnos duking it out when the player arrives, but that would make it pretty much the same as the first act of the arc.

Originally Posted by Venture

No, you write the mission so it doesn't matter if they defeat Boss 1 or Boss 2 first. If Boss 1 absolutely, positively has to snuff it first, put him in the prior mission.



Nonsense, and if you can't write your "story and dialogue" without using chained objectives you're not as smart or creative as you think you are.

Originally Posted by KingSnake

Must be a server thing. I always run my AE contact real fast cause of my OCD, and haven't seen a single person in the atlas AE building in MONTHS. Totally empty. I never heard AE spam anymore. Ok, maybe once in a blue moon. I can honestly say, in all my gloabl chat channels i'm a member of, only ONCE in... the last 6 months have i seen someone spam for an AE team. And i remember THAT because it was so weird to SEE an AE team forming in a long time.

I suppose bigger server may have more people using AE, obviously. Bigger servers also have more active PVP. That doesn't make it "popular" though. (I don't know what server your on, but mine is Triumph. No AE activity, no PvP. We are the PVE server. LOL)

Originally Posted by Aura_Familia

There are such arcs. And some of them are very good.

Unfortunately they are buried under all the dreck, and impossible to find with the useless search feature.

Originally Posted by Venture

I don't think I've spent 60 hours on all my arcs put together. What are people doing?

Originally Posted by Quantum Phantom

...I go into the AE building in Atlas, and it is dead, dead, dead.