Memphis_Bill

Sushi. Will. Roll.

That said... missing part of the 2xp (if not all) since, well, moving - finally going home! We'll see how long it takes internet service to kick in. >.>

... yknow....

Just random thought here. Some of the complaints about tanks kind of surfaced again - typically with comparison to brutes/scrappers. (Which, hey, I don't really care, I like my tanks.) How they need more differentiation and whatnot.

Well, they're melee, damage, aggro control. Some people think that doesn't differentiate them enough. How about a pass through on the sets to add more support (buffs/debuffs) to the sets? They're touching a bit on it now from what I understand *anyway,* so why not make that the Tanker's niche - not only are the enemies concentrated on the tank, but they're concentrated enough on them that everyone ELSE has an easier time hitting them?

We've got some of that going on even with some of the older sets (slows/ice slick/Dark's fairly heavy control.)

No, not sure how it'd work overall. As mentioned - random thought floating through.

Going to get into a bit more detail on this:

A VIP, no matter what, gets 12 slots per server just for being VIP (and access to the VIP server.) They don't need to be unlocked - you'll see a bunch of "Create character."

HOWEVER... since you left the game, you basically "dropped to premium status," as far as the game is concerned. You still have (at least) two Global slots available, which can be used on any server, and can buy more. Any extra slots you may have purchased on a server will still be assigned to that server, but unused.

Now that you resubscribed, you got the 12 slots per server back - but the game does not assume you want to unlock all your characters. If you use the buttons on the bottom to go to page 2 of the character select screen, you'll see a page full of "Create character." Page 3 and 4 will be locked - you'd have to buy extra slots (or turn in global slots, which are then converted to server slots on that server.)

You can:
- Unlock all your characters, one at a time, and use them just like before.
- Unlock just some of your characters, leaving others locked, and use the unused server slots to roll new ones
- Unlock none and just make a pile of new characters.

If you drop your subscription back to premium, all the characters become locked again, and you'd have to unlock the ones with the server slots that you'd want to play as premium.

/this.

Especially since, 1-25, it's not *costing* you anything to "make" that prestige. And if you're on eof the first (or, depending on how you look at it, last) 15, you don't do *anything* to add the bonus prestige to the group other than exist.

Which would work even better with -def to go with it! So there!

>.>

The people who run it on Linux disagree with you.

As far as straight -def...

1. Isn't that fairly standard for lethal attacks? Or at least "bladed" attacks? And
2. It would help the set as a whole. Chained attack misses = chain broken, and a bit of -def helps minimize that.

No, the server LISTS are merged. There used to be an EU list (Union, Defiant, Vigilance and Zukunft) and an NA list (everyone else) that couldn't even see each other. Now it's one big list. The separate servers are still individual entities - so your Union character is still on Union, not accessible on Defiant without a transfer.

... so you're looking for an SO build to start with, in essence, and then want to see how it changes when you start adding or considering IOs?

If you don't mind taking the time (and, admittedly, influence) there are three steps to the process of "getting" IOs, IMHO: (And yes, some people skip it and go right to step 3, others went through it for a few weeks/months/years since issue 9.)

1. Look at your SO build.

Typically 1-2 acc, some damage/hold/recharge, whatever you may have.

Part of this is "getting" just the powers and what they do. Most are fairly straightforward, especially if you're looking at something like this Spine/Fire scrapper. (As opposed to, say, "What's my optimal slotting for Dark Servant?" which does quite a bit.)

When you figure out ... just what you don't have enough slots to want to do

2. Frankenslot with cheap IOs.

This for the most part will ignore set bonuses. You may get a few globals - again, looking at the fire scrapper, I'd be sure to have at least two Knockback resistance IOs in there. Which will have two side benefits: 1. It won't tie you to Acrobatics and the leaping pool for KB protection, freeing up a slot and the endurance Acro takes and 2. as somewhat mentioned in 1, if you want to take something other than the leaping pool for travel, you can.

Frankenslotting can basically give you the effect of a slot (or more...) without actually needing to slot it. There are guides on this - but instead of (say) acc - dam - dam - dam - end - rec (5 slots) you'd be throwing multi-aspect IOs in that affect more than one thing. (Basically, especially with higher level IOs, two Acc/Dam IOs in two slots will give you a bit more than a full slot worth of accuracy and a full slot worth of damage.)

You used to do something like this with Hami-Os. Now, you don't need to raid to get one piece.

You're going to run up against something, though, that didn't exist if you haven't played since 2004, though, called "enhancement diversification." The (very) short-form version of this is that even con 3 SOs worth of slotting with give you ever-so-slightly less than 3 SOs worth of effect. The fourth, fifth and sixth ... generally aren't worth the effort.

However... set bonuses (which have a rule of their own - five of the same percent of the same value is it, anything past is ignored) help get around that with set bonuses... which is when you get into

3. Fully IOing out a build.

This is when you IO your build to take advantage of set bonuses - and do things that, back in SO days, would not make sense, like slot out a power you never intend to use (possibly even fully slot it out.) The bonuses aren't affected by ED - ED tends to directly gut things like "permahasten" if you just try slotting for it, but you'll notice people talking about it anyway. They're doing it with a ton of global recharge bonuses.

These are why you're seeing far more complex builds than you're used to.

As mentioned, though, get Mids and you'll be able to actually paste the build in and *see* what's going on.



Also, for what it's worth:
I agree. Seeing the Level 50-100 billion INF Uberbuild is nice, but it doesn't really help at level 23. I've seen some guides do a "OK, this stage, look at this, this stage, start looking at this, do a respec here to change these around" and the like - but they're few and far between, IMHO. Given Free and, I'd say, a fair number of Premium players can't use IOs at all (without purchasing a license or being a certain tier,) SO-based guides and discussions are sorely underrepresented.

As mentioned, it's been like this for a while. Well before Titan Weapons.

Complaining about it now is like complaining that they didn't broadcast the 1859 Olympic games on TV.

Plus, I don't know about you, but I teleport in Dwarf fairly frequently if I'm having to tank. So "ONE example out of the vast majority of the time" is not frankly rare. It's 1/3 of the total offensive powers of White Dwarf.

Not sure why you're so intent on acting like a five year old brat in this thread. Seriously, I can almost hear you huff and stomp your foot with that "Fine, whatever" in the last post.

Because they CAN teleport, and when they did so, there was still a momentary hover. So you couldn't TP in and footstomp - you HAD to wait (or use one of the other melee attacks.)

IOW - no foot on ground -



= no footstomp.

(So best to hold off on the "Uh... dumherr" until you find out it actually *doesn't* make sense, hmmm?)