Memphis_Bill

So it shouldn't exist at all?

And what of those Free and lower tier Premium who ... *don't get* recipes and salvage, period, as they have no access to inventions? Or the market?

Regardless, I don't agree with the idea. If nothing else, having to go back and refresh SOs makes you take another look at your build as a whole (instead of one power or 2-3 slots at a time) and consider if something's working or not.

... at times, that's an exceptionally apt description of the system.

.... and one inf sink gone.

I don't know, given we don't have gear in this game (no, IOs are not "gear" that wears out/needs replacing,) regular enhancements are really the only thing that still can serve that purpose universally.

Not to mention "scale with level" - how's that going to work on the lower levels, and at what point do they need to be revisited, either as enhancements or as lower level enemy groups?

If you want an "Update all currently sloted enhancements to max usable level" (with cost showing) button... even per power, it'd do the same thing and maintain its inf-sink-ness. Otherwise even people playing on SOs are going to just be deleting the majority of them instead of using them (and there'd be no reason to *sell* them, and certainly no reason to put them cheaply on the market) fairly early in the game.

Honestly, at what point does it just turn into this? And will people just complain until it's this?

And SOME stuff like that is fine.

Almost all of it? No.

Honestly, we've fought Antimatter/Neuron/Battle Maiden/etc. all solo before. We've beaten them before. Repeatedly, in some cases. Sure, they're getting jacked up on Incarnate Juice... but *so are we.*

In fact, we're getting it directly, not secondhand from Tyrant.

So why does it make the LEAST bit of sense that we've gone from "I can solo this guy on SOs, thanks" to "Hey, I need 23 other people around to be able to leave a scratch on him? And him? And her? And him? And him?" It makes it almost seem like Incarnate-ing is a powering DOWN, in that case, of your character.

*A* bigger threat to cap it off? Sure. Even *A* bigger trial partway through - Underground, dealing with Praetoridon, for instance - sure, absolutely. Having it be absolutely everything? No.

... hmm. Power pool attacks available in form... >.>

(OK, maybe not, nova would require more animation time. It'd help dwarf - oh, what the heck, let nova tail-smack stuff if it has fighting pool attacks.)

Honestly, it's the lack of attacks in White Dwarf specifically that bugs me. Dark's heal works as a (short) attack, and DDMire gives a buff - unless I've been leaning heavily on recharge, White Dwarf has a fair number of pauses. One additional attack would be nice. (And it's where the "drop to human" suggestion doesn't really work all the time - if I'm in a mez/stun heavy group, that can be a fairly bad idea.)

I (obviously) see it differently - all the different things to do on different servers with different people, for me, is part of what keeps the game interesting. It's not just another way of having more slots, for me (and my 300-some alts...)

But again, I'm not against more slots. Mostly encouraging people to branch out a bit - it's not as bad as you think!

I've had a bind (that admittedly I don't use much) that if I used shift-sysrq (same as the printscreen button,) it would first turn on the UI (/screenshotui 1), then take a screenshot (/screenshot) then turn the UI off for the next regular shot (/screenshotui 0.)

Do they get a really nifty outfit? Maybe a sword (or at least a cudgel?)

Alternately needing a long white beard, robes, and a heavy leather-bound book. (Beard optional if the keeper is female.)



(Not disagreeing in the slightest. I just now have this image of the Keeper of Continuity in my head, walking up behind someone writing something fairly out of whack and hitting them on the head with The Tome.)

Yes, and I suspect it'd go better than you think.

All writers shall henceforth be required to recite the number for the local taxi company and the route from the studio to the nearest bar, from memory....

So, say, my Earth/FF 'troller basically needs to be deleted because it's "a problem" it takes longer to complete a mission than a scrapper? No. Or longer than a Fire/Kin? No. It's a different playstyle. Period.

And you're dismissing out of hand. I don't care if you think "combat speeds make it trivial." I've run groups with that mechanic at its core. I'm not "reaching." I'm talking about one of *my* real, in-game uses.

But hey, feel free to completely ignore that because you don't like it. *shrug* Won't be the first time. (See also knockback - "It's completely useless!" "No, not to me, I use it this way, this way, this way, and just knockdown wouldn't help as much." "You're wrong, it's never useful!")

Please re-read the quote, because you have it wrong.

That, IMHO, would be a more acceptable way to accomplish adding ATT to the set - scale the END up to however many are TP'd, perhaps.

Then again, I think most of the forumites tend to be so wound up over "ZOMG I must have98723490328742 DPS and capped this and blah blah blah" that they miss the whole *game* part.

And then I see some of those same people complaining about how such and such is "unsoloable" or "too weak" - or, for instance "can't take down trapdoor" on their oh so uber IO builds... and I've done so fairly easily on SOs.


And that's blindness on your part, to be blunt. *A* reward is geting a bunch of XP for killing enemies quickly. Does it really matter how fast I kill them or how many I kill? No. About the only time it does is on a timed kill-all mission... and then they dont' care if I'm running on x8 or x1.

Some of the reward, quite frankly, is getting costume parts unlocked. Or seeing how a certain storyarc goes. For me, part of the "reward" is seeing how differently content feels between different sets.

Why should the game provide what sounds like, by your definition, a numeric (XP/etc.) reward for using the power? I've found uses for the power. I don't care if other people are too blinded by whatever to even consider it.

Not useful? Say, trio of Scrapper, Brute and Kin, team TP into enemies, kin has power siphon/fulcrum shift queued, everyone shows up at once and is immediately buffed, damage-wise. Looks like more ATs potentially benefitting to me.

How many PBAOE powers are there? Holds, debuffs, stuns, enemy-targeted buffs? How useful would it be for them to be applied *on arrival* instead of everyone chasing over one after the other.

How would that not be "particularly useful" to more than just MMs?

Do you remember the last time they tried just "changing the powers that arent' used much?" I don't know if you were paying attention to it at that point - when they were going to swap powers out of the PPPs. They were going to do things like (say) take my Dom's ranged AOE blast away and give me a (much less useful, but "powerful") copy of PFF.

The dev team was nearly lynched. You'll note this is the first time we had pools expanded to five powers....

And this isn't one of them. You'd be making, with the "Just make it ATT" change, a useful power into an utterly useless one - why would anyone waste a power pick on it when they can get temp/vet/store powers that work the same way? (Basically, like phase shift - why, other than possibly an IO mule, take it when you get the same thing via Etherial Shift or the temp power from Warburg - two or three minutes patrolling and you have it.)

Excuse me?

I take the powersets and/or pool powers I find use for. I don't care about numbers or how popular they are.

Team Teleport, for instance, I'll use to drag a bunch of melee MM pets directly into battle (instead of having some decide to throw pebbles at the enemy, others run in,) or - well, for instance, some friends and I set up an all electric Sapper team. I use Team TP for us all to get there at once, all hit Short Circuit (which, en masse, makes for a lot of twitching...) etc.

Changing it to Assemble the Team completely eliminates those uses.

I, personally, don't care if you see it as "weaker" or find its use, for yourself, "minimal." Then again, I'm not playing a spreadsheet.

Also:
you'd be wrong with this. Adding to Energize is far less of a stretch. If what you were proposing was done to conserve power (which is what turned into Energize,) you'd be granting someone *else* an endurance discount. Much less useful, I think you'd agree.

The problem is that the *means* of use is vastly different - yes, the power does related things, but the way you propose utterly eliminates the usefulness it has *now* for something we can get via a (or several) temp powers.

That would utterly gut most of the use it has, IMHO. It'd be an immediate respec out for the characters I have that use it.

Hey, I start things from that end more often.

Nope.

Having played several other MMOs... well, if we had our character possibilities in other MMOs, other MMOs would split out quite a few of these as separate classes, I'm sure.

Most seem to have their "healer," their "Tank," their "DPS," maybe their "Buffer/debuffer." And once you've played one, you've played them all.

Meanwhile, my Ice/Emp plays far different from my Fire/Kin from an Ill/Sonic from....

I tend to find it easy to suggest "Hey, lets start something new over here" for people I refer to *as* friends. Then again, mine (who really do form a fairly tight-knit group) will throw out "what the heck, why not" new theme/superteam suggestions themselves and pick a server.

Besides, you're not "picking up and moving." You're expanding. You swap back and forth. Not doing a mass transfer and abandonment.

Even *without* that group, you can start a theme team and set time to play. "Superteams" aren't exactly a new idea. Announce it, say which server, announce on that server with details, start having fun with a whole server's worth of new slots.

Do believe there's a guide to commissioning somewhere....

Yes, it's pay-for-art. (Sometimes people will do trades/free, but they usually won't call those "commissions.") We can't talk about prices here - you'll note in my thread of comissioned art, the most I'll say is "they're cheap for what they've done" or "really worth the price" or (don't think I've ever used this) "way overpriced for the end result."

Follow the links Techbot gave to his deviantart page in the first post, and he'll have prices (and other samples, typically) there. If you decide you like his style/result/etc, then set up a commission with him.

Some people want to be paid in advance, or at least get *an* advance (since some people will... well, not pay.) If it's not stated explicitly, find out in advance.

Get *good, clear* screen shots of your character. Be descriptive in what you want - but also be realistic. If he says (just as a for instance, haven't been to TBA's page) "$10 for single character, no background," don't expect a full comic book page, multiple panels and scenes for $30 or some such. (Those tend to be expensive in any case.)

Get a timeframe, but be (reasonably) flexible in it - things happen.

Find out if you get a preview, choose poses, etc. Some people just knock these things out so fast it's really not realistic to expect one! Usually with more detailed (and higher cost...) pieces, you'll get preliminary, rough sketches to get an idea and to approve. It varies from artist to artist.

Don't pester, but if there's no queue and you haven't heard from them for a while... do ask for a status update (like, say, two weeks if they say "I should be done next weekend" and they haven't said there'd be a delay.)


Character views:

I tend to make them for all the outfits (and generally update when there have been big changes.) Other people may pick a "main" outfit - be sure relevant detail can be seen. F'rinstance, for Madison in that warlordwardog piece (over in the Memphis Art 2012+ thread) I sent him this and specified which outfit to use. (The full size is a bit of a forum breaker.) You may just want one specific outfit.

If they need brighter views or have other questions, find a better place - I do like Studio B in AE, honestly.

No.