Mantid

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Wait I've been doing Valentines before all you folks hopped on the bandwagon... (see sig and avatar!)

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Nope! That was me!

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Wha?...Ohhhh candy heart Valentines.
Never mind carry on!

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Still me...

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Everyone is very clever with their candies!

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Thanks!

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Bands! Wagons! How can I resist?

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Another nice one!

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Trick Arrow has other tricks aside from Debuffing too.

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Not in comparision to other defender sets. A immoblize, a single target hold, and a AoE hold? Blah!

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Who needs a bandwagon..? I have cuteness!

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Awww...

*huggles Miss Kitty*

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In the giving spirit, here's a nod to a bygone time.

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Good one!

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*cough* someone changed my avatar on me!

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"Someone" keeps changing mine too!

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My contribution.

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<3

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The reason people like myself complain is that, with all of them, you're basically doing the same as my Stormer does with Freezing Rain and Hurricane.

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YEah, if you total up all the debuffs in Trick arrow and any other defender debuff set and they are roughly equal as far as damage prevention goes... the only thing is the other sets do it in fewer powers and so they have more tools besides debuffing.

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I didn't know you cared Celtic!

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Manticore, you twit.

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Awww... you don't have to be shy about it.

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I'm staying true to the spirit! Now...if only I could see my avatar...

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Celt, ya gotta copy the heart to your computer and upload it to some other webspace. They don't "keep" the image you created, so you have to find someplace to host it.

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Thanks!

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I didn't know you cared Celtic!

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I'm staying true to the spirit! Now...if only I could see my avatar...

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Celt, ya gotta copy the heart to your computer and upload it to some other webspace. They don't "keep" the image you created, so you have to find someplace to host it.

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Hmmm... is that what is happening to so many of them?

Even Positron's was nerfed!

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Teehee, lookit mine!

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Yeah I love her too.. he's sexy.. yeah she is..

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This officially makes me a stalker, doesn't it?

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Sorry, that position is filled

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Is it I7 yet?

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Oh good one! Hadn't thought of that one!

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GO HUNT! KILL SKULS!

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I'll see your Kill Skuls and raise you a Jerk Hacker!

I admit the candy heart generator makes them look more realizic them my hacks.

Copy cats!

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It is fixed, and hopefully will be up on the live servers before the end of the event. Suffice it to say that earning the Toothbreaker badge will get you a unique gladiator for your stable.

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Hopefully? That inspired alot of confidence!

Hmm.. seriously though, is toothbreaker being awarded?

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AHHHHHHH!!!!!!

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Grr. I'm so tired of people complaining about no content past 50. Do you guys also complain to Hollywood about no more movie after you fast forward to the end?

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Where did this come from? We have been talking about getting various sets for scrappers and tanks. No complaints about no content past 50. At least not from ME.. which it seems you are replying to me.

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Yeah, I love those people who are too afraid to reply to someone to the face... umm... post.

Ummm... anyhow there is a certain class of movie that people do fast forward through...

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Def numbers are lower than Ninjitsu's

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I have the distinct feeling I am being lied to..

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I believe a Dev mentioned that a ways back... may have been on the beta boards.

Let's see... the numbers I have (which I make no garantee for accuracy on them)

Energy (unslotted):
Without Overload = 12.5% vs all but Psi, Toxic, and Energy, 16.3% Def to Energy, 5.6 Res to Energy and Neg Energy
Overload alone = 45%% def to all but Psi

Ninjitsu (unslotted):
Withot Kuji-In Retsu or click powers: : 12.5% to Melee, Ranged, and AoE
Click Resistances (unslotted): 20% to Toxic, 12.5% to Psi
Kuji-In Retsu (alone): 45% to Melee, Ranged, and AoE

You could say that Enegery only has Energy over Ninjitsu, and Ninjitsu has Psi over Energy (becaue its attack type base), but there is the toggle Mez protection vs Toggle Mes protection in there too.

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The only reason the devs have ever given is because of "Flavor". Well, how can Dark Melee, a scrapper set, but the right "flavor" for a Brute yet Energy melee isn't Scrapper "flavor". For a long time they said Super Strength would never be a scrapper set because of AT "flavor", yet Brutes, an AT which apparently shares some Scrapper "flavor", is okay with Super Strength too.

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Sometimes there is a playstyle issue.

Ice Armor, for example, was taken from Brutes in CoV beta because it supposively went against the brute play style (I would gues the early slow and the final "phase shift" both of which would slow down building fury). Tanker melee attacks tend to be slower then scrapper ones, both in recharge and animation (that is not absoulte, there are plenty of exceptions that could be named). Although that first one could be changed to fit the scrapper theme, the second would take a while.

That said... I wouldn't mind seeing other power sets shared...

Course I have lived with an AT that has had only 4 unique powersets up till CoV. Now, post CoV, it has only one powerset that isn't shared with any other AT... and half of it is in a Dominator powerset!

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Scrappers already have a lot of "fun stuff" and already have the best melee powers in the game. I think you just haven't had your nap!

Scrapper defense powers are fine as is.

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::Slap::

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Whoa! Open handed instead of the frying pan! That's serious!!

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As for why not energy? Simply because there is no energy melee in the scrapper sets.


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So? Is that the best you can do? Try again.. bub. That is the lamest reason I have heard for not giving scrappers fun stuff yet.

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Blame Statesman. He hates giving a powerset without a "logical" primary or secondary to go with it.

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Super strength is often equated with invunerability. I suppose Inv should be removed from scrappers and leave us with THREE defense sets.

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Heh... you kinda had three defense sets up until they finally made DA playable... two if you want to argue SR.

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That was my assumption as well. Granted, it's late, I can't remember where I heard it, but somewhere I thought States or Recluse or somebody said that i7 for CoH would also be i1 for CoV. Combining issues like that might mean one issue would have a little more hero content or villain content, but the first issue after CoV launched would be to get the villains to level 50 and bring the hero graphics up to CoV's levels.


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I'm almost 100% positive the quote said the I6 would actually be the first "combine issue". Meaning I6 was really CoH I6/CoV I1, and so on.

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That was my impression as well, that it would be a combined issue.

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Energy Aura at the LEAST. Eletric Armor would be nice too, and giving tanks broadsword in trade for.. oh.. SS or energy melee would be great too.

Please...?



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Well I have to say I cant visualize Energy as a scrapper set. Ninjitsu on the other hand...

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Why wouldn't Energy make a good scrapper set?

And no.. Ninjitsu would not be a scrapper set. Ninjitsu trades in defense for stalker specific tools. Not for scrapper use.

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Indded. Ninigitsu is usually secrecy and stealth, two very stalkerish attributes and not all that scrapperish.