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I had a good fight with "War Godd" last night. He was a member of Doom Patrol. he saw me on a rooftop and thought I was easy prey. I made him think again.

The good part about the fight is that he wasn't a stalker!

lol

what I mean by that is, instead of striking and then going invisible, he stayed to have a one on one beatfest with me.

Brute vs. Tank to me was a hellva battle that waged for a good 5 minutes.

Although I never got to defeat him, I can say he didn't defeat me either.

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*ahem*

Doom Phalanx

Thank you

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Our SG has same issue except the computer offers us a TaskForce from Silver Mantis (who is an arachnos agent) which allows us to start but never contact her since she's in Sharkhead Isle and we are heroes .

We are hoping that this will be resolved with next patch.

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There's no resovling to do. She's a villain contact, you're heroes. There's no way you should ever be able to contact her. That SF showing up in the mission computer is a bug, and they have said that they are working on a hero TF, but don't look for it for a while.

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Funny cose i remember you and some others killing my poor lil sweet friend Ms.smiteswell, when was obvius we were talking ( 2 heroes near a villian without attacking each other ), anyway next time just ask there are good people too in pvp zones, she wanted to give you the bounty or the bounty for your friend. i believe you said sorry, and after she got rez from someone of your team seems you guys came back and killed her again lol, lucky for me there was my buddy cose i have bad memory =P. Some others did it too but one in particular got the " sorry im a wimp" tittle and a free tour to "WArbug Hell edition", dont recall his name and dont really care, but he is in list.
PD: if someone yells at you in local or brodcast to stop, why in hell dont you stop, the only reason a person would say stop is cose he/she doesnt care for pvp in that moment or in general....sigh

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Untrue. I hit this person once, only because I reacted to a orange name. Once I realized that you guys where talking I quickly retreated so my Auto attack wouldn't go off.

I returned after to say I was sorry that I had attacked even though it was obvious Ms. Smiteswell wasn't doing PvP.

If someone had killed Ms. Smiteswell, it was not my team as I was only teamed with MichaelBond.

I am sorry I attacked, but it is a PvP zone and I can get alittle tense & Defencive. However, I did not kill Ms. Smiteswell nor did I collect any bounty. I simply hit Ms. Smiteswell once.

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OMG!!! Dinah Might Said my name!!! wOOt!!!11!!!!!!1

even though she spelled it wrong...(it's MichealBond, not MichaelBond)

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That sounds like a deep, dark fantasy MB...

As much as you say Quason uses dirty tactics, he is at the same time very honorable. If you roll him as your bounty he will generously meet you for a one-on-one to claim it. I respect that. It is a good way to go about things instead of just running and hiding all the time in your respective base.

Also, several people will allow another respectable person to claim their bounty before they log which is what I did for Ping last night. I figured that since the bounty on my head was over 1500, I didn't want it to go to waste. It's the way of the warrior in my mind

Hmmm, post your base pics? But that might give away some design secrets..........hehe

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Yes, there seems to be a Shivan Gladiator. But nobody saaid that this is tied to a "Kill X" Badge or number. Don't forget that the Gladiator may also be tied to an Accomplishment, History or Accolade badge!

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Well I have all Accomplishment, Exploration and History Badges -> except for any potential History Badge in the PvP Zones. I have all the Kill X Badges for CoH, so I know it's not tied to that. I have the Men in Black Badge so I know it's not tied to that. Unless of course you have to kill like 100 Shivan Bosses to get that gladiator

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There is no Shivan gladiator in CoH. There is a Shivan kill badge for 100 of them, though.

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Check out Vidiotmaps:

List of Gladiators

It lists the Shivan Destroyer Gladiator. Shivan's only appear in Bloody Bay right? I would guess then that both heroes and villains can get this gladiator.

What about the Shivans? How many do you have to kill to get that gladiator?

Do the Specteral Pirates in Bloody Bay give any badges? They only appear at night like all other ghosts.

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i can see yall have as much work as i do today.

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Lol. so true, so true

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Yeah. Do you know how many casual players have their alts spread out across several SG's? Maybe you're out of touch with the game.

I play only a few nights a week. I'm the leader of an SG, but the other leaders and captains do a good job running it.

Like I said in another post, posting a lot has nothing to do with how hardcore of a gamer you are. For many people, it's an escape from the mundaneness of work.

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Not everyone is reporting the same thing. In fact more than a few are reporting numbers that are 2 to 4 times than this average that your quoting. But you're only looking at the data that supports your cause.

Well according to Statesman, only 4% of the gaming population posts on the forums. So then isn't your data pretty skewed in your favor? The fact remains that there are many small SG's out there getting prestige and not coming to the forums whining about it.

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Well, we'll just have to see about that. The last time I checked you weren't personal friends with the Devs and therefore cannot assume what they will and won't nerf.

Time will tell. Those missions were put in there AND given a prestige boost for a reason. There a reward for a risk. If people want to sit in there and repeat continuously then they take the risk of engaging in PvP.

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You have no clue who I'm friends with and who I'm not. That makes no difference. The dev's standard operating procedure has been proven time and again since I've been participating in this game (which was March of 2004).

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No I may not, but I can get a good idea from the fact that you're sitting here complaining about a problem that you have not experienced.

Well, we'll just have to see about that. The last time I checked you weren't personal friends with the Devs and therefore cannot assume what they will and won't nerf.

Time will tell. Those missions were put in there AND given a prestige boost for a reason. There a reward for a risk. If people want to sit in there and repeat continuously then they take the risk of engaging in PvP.

Well the Kora Fruit is quite useful, especially in PvP, Arena Matches, Base Raids etc. They give an advantage over the ones that you can buy in the store, and any advantage in those situations is worth it. I used to farm Kora Fruit after I reached level 46 and then give those insp to the lower levels in my SG to help them out in their missions.

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Yes but some of us perfer not to use exploits to gain the extra prestige. Nor are we asking to have the bases handed to us. What we are asking is a realistc time frame to obtain basic functionality within normal play means.

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Exploits? God you whiners are relentless. Anything that is productive is classified as an exploit?

Cry me a river.. build me a bridge.. and get the F#%^ over it. You guys are like friggin locusts. The moment someone reduces your invalid attempts at crying doom with proven evidence, you flock to a new place to complain about something different.

Oh my god.. Maldini.. your going into a PvP zone? and earning a bonus to prestege while helping your side get buffs and debuff the opposing side? Your using the zone for what it was intended for? OH MY GOD YOUR SUCH A CHEATER! *sarcasm*

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First off, prestige should be earned FROM ANY Gameplay in a reasonable rate where any SG can will be able to create a raidable base in a reasonable amount of time.

Telling people "well go to bloody bay and do the missions there" isn't a solution. Its not even close.

People want to be able to play their characters, run through story arcs not sit in bloody bay doing missions all the time b/c they may or may not like pvp in general but still want to earn a reasonable amount of prestige for their SG.

You all keep saying go to bloody bay. Bloody Bay is not an option for every character, infact its an option for very few b/c the missions are only attainable in a certain level range. Often a group doesn't have anyone in that level range or the level range for other pvp zones or not all of the group members want to go to those zones b/c they're pvp.

Everyone's been posting Evidence of what they're earning, 2.5k has been about the average per hour rate. 50k Per week seems the average for small SG's.

Screaming that they should just go to Bloody Bay b/c you think its how prestige is best earned ignores all of the PvE game that people actually ENJOY about this game.

People shouldn't have to be forced to a pvp zone to earn a reasonable amount of prestige that isn't that reasonable either.

No one is whining. Its poeple like you coming in screaming about whiners that never get anything accomplished. We've been discussing what we're experiencing and how best to change things for the better and all your doing is screaming stop whining.

Try actually discussing solutions, alternatives or providing proof to back up your statements not just "go to bloody bay, this guy said its better".

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Bloody Bay is an option. That's what he's trying to say. You don't have to go there, but if you do, it can help make your Prestige worries go away sooner. It's an option just like most other things in this game. Once again. Risk versus Reward.

Still don't want to go into PvP zones? Well then grab as many SG mates as you can, and finish all their Kill X Amount of Mobs missions as quickly as possible. If everyone has 3 contacts, then these missions are bound to pop quite frequently. Finishing them is a nice way to get the mission bonus quickly without having to do a lengthy door mission.

Really? The last time I did them, they are infinitely repeatable with random Kora fruit types each time the mission is chosen. You can still do one to completion, then pick another one and possibly get a different type of Kora fruit. That hasn't changed as long as I have been around. And who's to say someone couldn't farm that mission for inspirations? They made it repeatable for exactly that reason, as a way to attain high end inspirations. They come at a certain price however as the caves are filled with Psi-blasting Rularuu. Risk versus Reward.

Yeah, it's not an exploit. The missions are repeatable by design and are intended that way. There's no rules against doing the same mission to completion over and over again. If that's the case, then I guess the Kora Fruit missions are exploits because it allows people to constantly get an influx of the best inspirations?

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Ah, yes you have seen it all and done it all, you are the only person who can give an opinion on this, I have not been in a small SG so I can not speak of them. Yes, I see now that it is totally impossible for me to understand the dynamics of a small SG. I see now that I can not possibly grasp a small SG because I have never been in one...Just like I can never order coffee in CA because I have never been there, even though I have ordered it in other places...Just like I can not drive in OR because I have never driven there, even though I have driven in other places. Saying I can't speak about a small SG makes just about as much sense as saying I can't order coffee in CA because I have never done it before.

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No, but you can't complain about the prices of coffee in CA if you don't live there and have to put up with it every day. For the same reason, your trying to advocate for something that you only know of vicariously. Therefore you're arguing for no reason.

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I appreciate you finally posting these. Now we can see that our differences of opinion lie in the fact that I believe you need to upgrade plots and you do not. We needn't argue about this anymore, one of us is right and one is wrong. Can anyone shed more light on this? Do you or do you not need to upgrade plots? There are dissenting opinions throughout all threads on this.

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Yes, you are wrong. Thank you for finally admitting it. You can fit 9 rooms on a basic plot. 2 of those rooms can't hold anchors, so you have 7 rooms that can. A raid teleporter can be placed in a small Transport Room (2 x 2) with careful placing and deletion of doorways, etc. This has been argued in the above posts. That would be the only reason why you couldn't raid on a basic plot.

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Here is where you ignorance shines through the most. I have said that I am going off of what a lot of people are saying on these boards. That they make 2.5K per hour doing missions as normal in SG mode. You are saying that they can make more than 2.5k(per person) per hour by FARMING. The only example you gave on how to get more was a FARMING example. Please give another example for these small SGs to follow. You seem to be an expert, enlighten them with an example other than farming. Right now I am inclined to believe the numerous people who have posted a 2.5k per hour figure over the figure you presented. Also, nowhere did I say that SG shouldn't group together, you are grasping at straws there. I am not even sure why you put that rhetorical question (I assume it is rhetorical) in there.

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You don't have to farm, just keep running missions in SG mode. You want an example? Bloody Bay missions. PvP zones give 20% boost to prestige earnings. These missions are simple and quick to finish. There are timed, but are infinitely repeatable. There are various ways in which a group can do this missions, either a hard way or an easy way. You wanted an example, you got one. For every point there is a counterpoint. Quid pro quo. For every time you say people can only earn this much per hour, I can show you how they can earn this much per hour. And you know what's the best? The fact that I have done this as well as others. I have experience in this, you do not.

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Your ignorance and having not read the other threads is showing again...My numbers are taken from numerous posts and are REAL data. In fact they are averages from numerous posts throughout these threads. It is your data that is only based on your experiences. Of course you can show me a better figure. I can also show a worse figure at will if I am just going to use data that I made up myself. But instead I took the time and put in the effort to find out what people were getting and I did some math based on that. You on the other hand, did some FARMING missions and tried to use those figures.

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You should take the time and actually do missions yourself and experiement yourself, just like other and I have done. Your time would be better spent trying to help these people out by finding alternatives instead of being an idiot in a forum and posting for the sake of hearing yourself talk.

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Again you are showing more ignorance. I am not arguing just to argue. If I was doing that my retorts would be far shorter and I would not have taken the time to do a little data-mining on the boards. It is actually you who appear to be arguing for the sake of arguing. You have no REAL data, yet accuse me of not having any. You make claims that a person can only speak from experience on these matters which is assine in itself (SEE buying coffee in CA example).

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Actually I do have real data, because I have gained prestige. It's not that hard to do really. You are the one who has no real data. You just read through forums all day and decide to advocate for situations you have never experienced yourself. Unfortunately I don't have enough online data space to copy of full nights worth of a demo file for you to look at. Like I said earlier, go start a small SG and work at ways to make things better instead of crying NERF to the devs at every chance you get.

There have been posts after posts of people saying that affording bases are not as bad as you think. There are new CoV VG's that have a better base than established, large CoH SG's. But maybe you fail to read these posts and only read the ones that support your cause?

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Also, I have never claimed to be on top of the world, nor have I claimed to be speaking FOR the little man. They speak for themselves and I speak WITH them. There are tons of posts (again, I doubt you read them) from the little man supporting the figures I show and there are tons of posts from the little man saying how they view the base system. I do not speak FOR them, but I aggree WITH them. And I will argue their case WITH them.

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Good, go out there and reproduce the situations, then like a true lawyer or scientist you can say that you have yourself shown objectively that the base system is flawed. But of course you'd have to compete with those SG's and VG's who will prove you wrong time and time again with objective evidence. I've tested and found better ways to earn prestige, you haven't. You just whine post after post about ridiculous assumptions.

Start your own SG, build your own base, then come back and we'll talk about this.

Yeah. But you could get some short term goals in mind instead of long term ones which would help the time pass quicker. For instance, you're first goal could be to get a power room and mainframe. Once you get that, you have completely a goal and can feel pretty good about that. The next goal could be Energy Room and Basic Generator. Finishing that goal would put you at the hump and the rest would be downhill from there. You could go with a workshop and worktable or a Medical Room and reclaimator or a Transport room and telepad

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And they will say "See we did it. So Suck it Up and quit your crying about how hard it is"

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Lol. I guess they would just want it to say they got it. I can't see them getting enough SG members on at once to defend it thoroughly. Even if they could afford the biggest plot, they would have to keep up that rate just to afford rent. Plus they would need a lot of prestige to purchase all the stuff to go into the rooms.

This just adds credence to the argument that they should change the way the SG cap works.