MajorTractor

Originally Posted by Miladys_Knight

Grav/FF controller.

Originally Posted by Bubblerella

Where's your KB protection?

Originally Posted by Nihilii

I've crunched the numbers and played extensively KM multiple times on either AT to 50, including mirror combos so I can have direct comparisons, as well as detailed my reasoning regarding damage buffs working comparatively worse on brutes than scrappers due to the way the AT itself work, having lower base damage + Fury rather than higher base damage, a thought that seems shared by most if not all knowledgeable folks, but hey, mister random person, I'm glad you can put everyone's concerns about KM's performance at rest with such rock solid arguments as "it does TONS of damage and can basically do alot of things that Invul/Stone/Willpower can do" (which seems like a self-defeating argument to me, as if you're arguing it can do a lot of things, as opposed to all the things, and hasn't anything extra, then it only follows that it is not as good). I could also go on about /fire vs /mu, if going for AoE, or /soul, if going for ST + almost as good AoE + survivability, but it's late and I want to wrap up this run on rant by deploring once again the annoying trend for people to see everything in black and white and confuse relative statements with absolutes. There is a best and there is a worst, that doesn't mean the worst is unplayable ; the worst active NBA player could probably make a fool out of anyone who's reading these forums at basketball. Sure, you can dress it up by claiming everyone is a winner and is awesome, but who does that help? Maybe the feelings of people who care about the performance of their characters, but then wouldn't we be more helpful to these players by giving them the correct information rather than sugarcoated affirments, assertions that are if you ask me quite condescending as really that's the kind of stuff you feed children, and I feel it's safe to assume the vast majority of people on the boards, especially those who are likely to visit the archetype forums, are at least teens and most likely grown men or women... Then comes the second annoying trend, player compares himself with random people on PUGs, sees himself perform better, concludes powerset combo is better. Holy logical leap Batman, have you stopped and considered that this game takes a bit of skill to play? As little as it might be to some people - again, people who treat everything as an absolute, which is especially silly when discussing skill in a MMO as there are, always, a significant amount of the playerbase who plays at a level that is, let's just say, far below what would be required to have any kind of enjoyable experience in most other video games ; as little as it might seem, the point is there is still much room in this game for personal skill to supplement build differences to a point, and comparing oneself to random players just doesn't make sense. Just yesterday I've seen a blaster taking the alpha against Marauder and his cronies in a Lambda while all the brutes and tankers were sitting on their pancakes, twiddling their thumbs. All melee powersets suck! Let's all reroll blasters! Thankfully it doesn't work this way, and thankfully there is room for something beyond just picking up the power build and closing your eyes, although it can feel that way at times after hours, dozens of hours, hundreds of hours playing the game, which is the kind of time during which you could learn a whole new language or professional activity really, so it should come at no surprise that certain things that are not as obvious to more casual players become child's play for some. Bottomline, you can push absolutely every combo in this game to do pretty cool stuff, far above what is actually required for regular play, but some will have an easier time at it, some will be faster, some will be able to push it even further. Hiding that fact behind happy-go-lucky rhetoric doesn't seem to serve much purpose to me, sure there are people who consider anything but the absolute best to be broken and useless and might then try it, but most likely they'll find out at some point that particular combo isn't the thing it was hyped up to be and will end up feeling disappointed. So the lesson here is you can't change people, but you can rant at them and that makes you feel better for a little while, up until facebook and google finally manage to push for our real identity to be tied to our online personas all the time, and the angry masses come to your home and burn your house for daring to say that guys, it could be that, open parenthesis, two plus one point fifty, close parenthesis, times one point fifteen might just be bigger than, open parenthesis, two plus one point sixty plus one point twenty-five, close parenthesis, times zero point seventy-five, and no home means limited internet access, means the end of the world as we know it.

Originally Posted by Call Me Awesome

Personally I've only taken TA/A to around 20, but the problem I had was more to do with the animation time; the amount of time it took to get all the debuffs in place rather than recharge time.

It simply went click the power, click on the location where the power should drop... click the power, click on the location where it should drop... click the power, click on the location where it should drop then start blasting. Lots of setup time and by the time the debuffs were down a good team was already moving on to the next spawn. I find Traps to be much the same but I know some players, including another good friend of mine Local Man, really like the set. I don't dispute it's power, I just don't like the extended setup time.

Originally Posted by Steel Dancer

Focused acc can be useful if you're going up against +4s or something along those lines as rage has a noticeable downtime on that build.

The QR/stam sets can also be pretty useful - if nothing else the added HP from the set bonuses is always a bonus. Saying that, however, pulling 2 off stamina and adding one to Haymaker and KO blow respectively (mako acc/dam & acc/end/rech instead of the quad) wouldn't hurt in the slightest.

Originally Posted by Obsidian_Light

You ever been to Cap? LOL. Cap is Redside's Atlas Park.

Originally Posted by Obsidian_Light

Atlas Park DOES give Freedom a bad name. Between the 'LFF' broadcasts, the RMT'ers standing in WW advertising their wares, and the general n00b feeling you get from people who refuse to actually spell properly, it does make my home server look like the red-headed stepchild of the game.

Those of us who do actually play the game have gone into a type of hiding. You won't find us in searches, our channels are private, we start in Galaxy City, and move to Kings Row ASAP. The only time any of us touch Atlas Park is to do our Cape and Aura mission, or the occasional trip to WW to grab something quickly.

If you know where to look, you'll find us running CoP's every Wednesday and Saturday night. Mothership raids on the fly (could be noon, could be 4 a.m.) Take your pick of TF/SF's because we're probably running that too.

I promise, anyone who has had a bad experience on Freedom, it's only because of Atlas Park and the morons it produces. Want my advice, unless they've got a 24+month vet badge by their name, knows how to actually spell their toon's name (i.e. 'John Doe', as opposed to J0hn D0e, or 001JohnDoe100, or any combination of idiocy that makes anyone who's over the age of 5 wonder if you know the English Language at all), and are level 11-50 in Atlas Park 'LFF', ignore them entirely. Don't even give a courtesy ignore button. Just pretend like they don't exist. Your global ignore would fill up too fast.

I promise, there are content players on Freedom. I'm one of them, and I will gladly introduce you to 30 more.

Originally Posted by eryq2

I compare actual powers. Not what people "think" or "figure up in mids". Take 2 of the same powers. Say FSC. At level 50, hit a mob with that attack as a Brute, then as a scrapper. 100 bucks says the scrapper does more damage to the mob. Same goes for Shield Charge and, more than likely, Lightning Rod ( i havent personally tested that one like i have the other ones). No matter what the Fury bars give Brutes, they still don't have the Brute (pardon the pun) strength of a scrapper. But that's not really related to this thread.

As far as this farm goes, once you understand how to level in it, it works nicely.

Originally Posted by jwbullfrog

I'll go you one better. I enjoy the first 40 levels of normal gameplay. On Villainside, that moves up to the first 50 levels...

Originally Posted by Rangle M. Down

Burn should no longer have "fear" attached to it.

Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy

It would compensate for our damage scales being far below other damage dealing AT's, and having the same damage cap as defenders (wtf?) in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison

I was going to reply with this too, but I re-read it and realized what he's asking for is literally a "resistance debuff" to be applied to the enemy, not debuff resistance.

Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy

Adding a resistance debuff to Eclipse would also make the Warshade's +4x8 steamroll even easier, but I'm ok with that. It would be a good way for the WS to be on par with other high damage, spawn melting sets... Afterall, Shades are probably one of if not the hardest AT's to play (correctly,) so I don't think it would be unbalanced to add more payoff to doing it right (especially considering the fact that most people don't do it right, due to the previously mentioned difficulty in doing so..)

Originally Posted by Pinkpup

On the issue of procs in toggles, I'm unconvinced but willing to let the matter slide.

Originally Posted by Texas Justice

Praetorians don't have access to AE.

Originally Posted by MajorTractor

It is really a moot point though. Either one can be made much tougher than you will ever need, even before you add all the Incarnate craziness.