Madadh

Technically, Model Ts aren't obsolete. They can be made street legal, and you can still use them to drive to and from work.

I did. Hadn't crafted the +End yet. And SOs drop like rain, so I figured may as well until I have the Proc.

Sweet! Good luck. Maybe I'll catch ya in game if you play on any of the servers I do. Be fun to see your results in action.

I believe they are all disabled in standard Mo runs. And they are disabled in the iTrials at present, but I believe I saw a red-name post that this was going to change in the near future for iTrials, allowing some travel only temps to function. I don't recall that any specific temp travels were mentioned as specifically included or excluded, however.

Thank you. One vote for Surveillance, owing to the fact that the WAWG has a very small AOE. In general use I find WAWG hits about 5-8 targets, which I think gives a decent chance of it proccing on at least one target, but my skills in statistics and probability are fairly weak, which is part of why I wanted the input on this specific choice, so I appreciate your help.

And no, the extra slot is not the 4th slot I have in Stamina. The 4th slot in stamina is the spot for the +End proc, which is generally considered a not insignificant addition. I'll let you know if I find it t be not worthwhile.

I'm capped to all positions as is, so excepting the trials, I think I'm pretty good. In the event of a debuff or other form of cascade fail, I doubt the 2% will make a significant defense.

Have it, but I looked at your slotting, and when doing my respec may move the powers it's in. Thanks.

I'm slotted fairly lightly for ACC. Having CT:O makes a quite noticeable difference while exempted below the level of TT:L. Expecially on the AOE attacks, or when fighting enemies with some form of shields, or tohit debuffs. Oh, and CT:O has tohit debuff protection,and TT:L doesn't.

Indeed they are. I choose to take advantage of that option. I'm impatient, I like to get where I'm going faster than Jet Packs can. I also had nothing that would significantly up my performance in another area to spend 1 power on, but no slots.

I have the GvE Jump. Quite like it. That being said, I have zero mobility issues already.

I like it all right. It completes my AOE attack chain, and there are no other powers that I could take in it's place that would, so even if I were completely underwhelmed, I'd be stuck with it.

Looking at your build, it looks a lot more melee oriented that I was going for. That does explain your choice of melee defense over ranged. It looks like a very effective build, and should I want to build a melee huntsman, I'll certainly consider using a lot of the tricks you employed.


I appreciate all the time, and the help. I think I'll really like the changed choice of slotting location for the -res proc.

But, still sorta doesn't answer the question I asked. Don't mean to sound ungrateful, just that I'm still in the same position I was before as to not really having an answer to that question.

You do have an option. Take the power and use the tricks mentioned above. Or take the power and don't, and risk death. Or take the power, and kill everything before it drops. Or take the power, use it as a mule and not bother with it in your tray. Or skip it. Plenty of options. Or avoid the whole set if it bothers you that much.


I personally don't like the power or the crash on my Invul tank, and skipped it entirely. But, I have seen it used to great effect by others; tanks, brutes, and scraps. It doesn't suit my playstyle, but it is a situationally useful power. In fact, I appreciate sets in which I don't feel the NEED to have every power. And find it a sign of good design to entice different types such that in a lot of cases, the 'skip-able' powers aren't even agreed upon.

Short version, I agree, I don't like the power, but that is far from evidence that it needs fixing.

They all 'count'. They are not all worth the slot, however. ED just gives you massively diminished returns for you SO/IO and slot investment past 3. So, all else being equal, and assuming n the hard cap for the attribute in question doesn't enter into the discussion, a power slotted for something with 3 slot will be less then the same power slotted for 6.

For example, if I were silly enough to put 6 Damage SOs (or IOs) in a power and someone else had an otherwise identical alt with 3 Damage SOs (or IOs) in it, mine will do a minuscule amount more damage.


At least that's what I've been led to believe by personal experience, and several other independent sources. I'll admit I have never conducted a well thought out test for this, however.

Pretty much this in most cases. Situationally, I'll buff for different needs, but in general, having the whole team there working together is going to trump having 2 or 3 there buffed, especially as there is a good chance they may not benefit much from a buff, due to cap situations.

In my opinion, 35s, 40s, 45s, and 50s, as far as common IOs are all fairly close. I don't bother to chase upgrades, just craft what drops if I have the salvage handy. Only once I'm better set for cash and level 50 and just putting on the final touches do I bother with it. In a lot of cases I still have an SO or two in a few places even, and don't really find I even notice.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. The reasons aren't obvious. OR at least obvious enough. So I'll ask outright... Why a plant theme, and why would you think that a plant theme should be obvious?

As to the Soldier PPP Pets, I've very little experience, so I'll have to leave that commentary for someone else.

And as for Fortification, you are correct now that I look at the numbers. I warned ya Crab's weren't my strong suit. I'd forgotten that it had mez resists in there too. That said, since your Defense numbers are nowhere near capped (except for ranged, which is fairly close) I'd want to make my Resistance numbers higher, and I might try to work a slot or two into Fort to up the resistances.

You're also 3 over the Rule of Five for set bonuses in the 6.25% Recharge Speed bonus. So I think I'd consider changing the Expedient Reinforcements for Blood Mandates for the huge AOE and Ranged Def bonuses. I know that means your pets aren't perma (or in CoRs case, further from Perma), but the best thing about that set (Exped Reinfor I mean), and the main reason it's pricey, is that big recharge bonus, and you're not getting it.

Also, the Miracle Proc will only work after using Serum, which I understand you'll be trying to keep up all the time, but it still makes a lot more sense to me to effectively make that recovery bonus Permanent by slotting it in Health. I'd either slot Doctored Wounds Heal/Recharge (lvl 50) in it's place, or lose the slot, and add it to health.

I really wish I had a good suggestion on how to fix your rule of 5 problem, but I don't really, since there are so few AOE sets, and even fewer Recharge Pets sets.. Hopefully someone else we see an idea I missed. I hope so, because it's really neat build concept,and I'd love to see it work out for ya.

PS: That said, push comes to shove, the build doesn't look bad even with not getting those bonuses. If you want to keep to your concept, and just eat them, it'll most likely still be quite playable and fun. You just won't be getting your Infs worth out of those sets.

Hmm. Hadn't thought of adding more -KB. But I can do that without putting the slot there, as I don't have anything in there currently. I had been considering the Psi Resist global, but ow I have a decision to make. Both, 1 or the other and more resistance, or spend the slot elsewhere like I'd first thought about.

Thanks for the input and suggestion, even if it did make the decision ever more tough.

Thanks for confirming. I had just assumed so, but realized I hadn't verified, and assuming, well, we all know how that can get ya into trouble.

Sincerely, thank you. If you'd not beat me to it, I'd not likely have said it so succinctly.

And, I'm sure you didn't mean to exclude the Trick Arrowers.

And, let's face it, Stormies are totally gimped with no O2. (Of course, I do like O2, and thinks it's underrated.)

I totally hear ya there.

I'm not so sure you do, but, if the level shift is the motivation, look over your incarnate salvage, and see what ya have, and which Lore that gets you the most progress towards a tier 3 on, and go that route. Then you never even need to worry about the pet. Slot that lore, remove the button from your tray, and forget about it.

Or do you only get the level shift when the pets are summoned and on-scene? Have to admit I never considered this, and haven't checked to see if this may be the case.

I'd strongly second Inv/Ice. It's quite tough, but admittedly on the lower DPS end, or at least my build is.

However, I'll respectfully disagree with the above poster on 1 matter. In my opinion, Ice Patch makes you more mobile against many opponents. You're rooted during the animation, but after that you can run off and leave a lot of enemies just flopping for a bit. Freeing you to gather aggro elsewhere while still having on bunch largely neutralized. If your recharge is high enough, you can have multiple patches out, and be in yet another location tanking. Granted, if you're teaming with a VERY fragile group, or a very tough enemy, the ice Patch isn't gonna be enough mitigation to keep your team safe all by itself, but once you get used to using it that way, you're very mobile, and protecting your team in several places at once.

Well, at least it works out that way for me. YMMV.

I play a fair number of Rads, and use this same technique. In my opinion, I'd still build for ranged def or s/l. If you want to be well rounded, I'd say ranged. Then build for AOE, and melee last. Even with no melee set bonuses you'll likely end up with ~20% melee defense depending on how you build.
Then, once you're standing in a mass in melee range, you'll have your -tohit active, I would hope, and since you'll likely not be soloing a group of EB or AV, but groups of minions and Lts, your debuff should be quite effective at getting you effectively the rest of the way to softcap efficacy. Things outside of the range of your debuff will be using ranged or AOE attacks..

I know, it's not a perfect solution, but it's probably the best you're gonna get. It works pretty well for me.