MaXimillion_Zero

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I can name several sets that even taking every single power of prim and sec, still cant solo very well.

[/ QUOTE ]Is that 'taking' or 'taking and slotting correctly'?

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Which is the other +percetion I can get in? I thought trollers could only access tactics


[/ QUOTE ]He said both -pers, not +pers

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Not so convinced I want Hoarfrost. If I want self healing, Heal Self with 3 SO interrupt reduction is better. But solo/small team I don't need healing, and on a big team someone should be able to heal me.

[/ QUOTE ]Trust me, you WILL want hoarfrost. Not only is it non-interruptible and fast, it also heals way more than aid self, and because of the max HP increaqse, it will increase aid self's effectiviness.


Also, 3 IntRdx isn't really needed in Aid Self, I'd drop at least one, maybe two, in favor of recharge/endurace.

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So in answer to the question "empaths, unappreciated?"

That means "no" simply because someone namely "me" appreciates them.

I hope that ends the debate

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I appreciate empaths as well

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so do I

[/ QUOTE ]Bah, they're useless, all of them.

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Judging by my number of posts you can tell I'm a nOOb right? Therefore would someone please tell me what 'teh' stands for, I thought it was a typo but seeing it so often now I'm not so sure.

[/ QUOTE ]Newbie=New player
n00b=an idiot

Thus, you're just a newbie

Oh, and: Teh (Wikipedia is your friend)

For reference, my planned ice/axe build (slightly different from what I have, wanted to see if I liked icicles, wasn't worth it):

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Glacial Blade
Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Ice Armor
Secondary: Battle Axe
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01) --> Hoarfrost==> Rechg(1)Rechg(3)Rechg(3)Heal(9)Heal(17)Heal(17)
01) --> Gash==> Acc(1)Dmg(9)Dmg(11)Dmg(15)
02) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(2)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(7)
04) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(4)
06) --> Beheader==> Acc(6)Dmg(7)Dmg(11)Dmg(15)
08) --> Wet Ice==> EndRdx(8)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12)Rechg(13)Rechg(13)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Glacial Armor==> EndRdx(18)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(25)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Swoop==> Acc(22)Dmg(23)Dmg(23)Dmg(25)Rechg(46)
24) --> Aid Other==> Heal(24)
26) --> Energy Absorbtion==> Rechg(26)Rechg(27)Rechg(27)DefBuf(34)DefBuf(34)DefBuf(37)
28) --> Whirling Axe==> Acc(28)Dmg(29)Dmg(29)Dmg(31)EndRdx(34)Rechg(40)
30) --> Aid Self==> Heal(30)Heal(31)Heal(31)IntRdx(33)Rechg(33)EndRdx(33)
32) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(32)Rechg(43)Rechg(46)Heal(46)
35) --> Cleave==> Acc(35)Dmg(36)Dmg(36)Dmg(36)EndRdx(37)Rechg(37)
38) --> Pendulum==> Acc(38)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)EndRdx(40)Rechg(40)
41) --> Char==> Acc(41)Hold(42)Hold(42)Hold(42)Rechg(43)Rechg(43)
44) --> Fire Blast==> Acc(44)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)
47) --> Fire Ball==> Acc(47)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)
49) --> Taunt==> Rechg(49)Rechg(50)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Run(1)
01) --> Power Quick==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Acc(1)
01) --> Gauntlet==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> IntRdx(2)
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And how I'd build an ice/SS:

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Ice Armor
Secondary: Super Strength
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01) --> Hoarfrost==> Rechg(1)Rechg(3)Rechg(3)Heal(9)Heal(17)Heal(17)
01) --> Jab==> Acc(1)Dmg(9)Dmg(11)Dmg(15)
02) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(2)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(7)
04) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(4)
06) --> Haymaker==> Acc(6)Dmg(7)Dmg(11)Dmg(15)
08) --> Wet Ice==> EndRdx(8)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12)Rechg(13)Rechg(13)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Glacial Armor==> EndRdx(18)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(25)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Knockout Blow==> Acc(22)Dmg(23)Dmg(23)Dmg(25)Rechg(46)EndRdx(50)
24) --> Aid Other==> Heal(24)
26) --> Energy Absorbtion==> Rechg(26)Rechg(27)Rechg(27)DefBuf(34)DefBuf(34)DefBuf(37)
28) --> Rage==> Rechg(28)Rechg(29)Rechg(29)TH_Buf(31)TH_Buf(34)TH_Buf(36)
30) --> Aid Self==> Heal(30)Heal(31)Heal(31)IntRdx(33)Rechg(33)EndRdx(33)
32) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(32)Rechg(43)Rechg(46)Heal(46)
35) --> Hand Clap==> Acc(35)DisDur(36)DisDur(36)DisDur(37)Rechg(37)Rechg(40)
38) --> Foot Stomp==> Acc(38)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)Rechg(40)EndRdx(40)
41) --> Char==> Acc(41)Hold(42)Hold(42)Hold(42)Rechg(43)Rechg(43)
44) --> Fire Blast==> Acc(44)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)
47) --> Fire Ball==> Acc(47)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)
49) --> Taunt==> Rechg(49)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Run(1)
01) --> Power Quick==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Acc(1)
01) --> Gauntlet==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> IntRdx(2)
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Where for the love of all that is holy is Hoarfrost? Get that badboy in early, and 6 slot it. (3recharge, 3 heal)

Get that in asap, as that really needs to be in there.

[/ QUOTE ]Very, very, VERY true, hoarfrost is a must.

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What is this taunt rubbish? With plain CE I'm keeping aggro fine in 8-man teams with multiple blasters... Taunt is a waste of slot

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I agree, ive been teaming with him and his CE goodness , i would say drop taunt and take another power in there such as aid self or hasten.

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Will try it out when I can earn a respec :P ... How to slot CE? 3 Slow, 1 End Red?

[/ QUOTE ]Slow will mean enemies will move towards you slower, bad when you're trying to get them bunched together. I went for 1 EndRdx.

EDIT: 6666 posts....is that bad?

What is this taunt rubbish? With plain CE I'm keeping aggro fine in 8-man teams with multiple blasters... Taunt is a waste of slot

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I have to say I'm surprised, particularly before lvl 20, that not a single person you ever teamed with died because you ran out of endurance.


[/ QUOTE ]Absorb pain costs 1 END

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indeed it does, but pre lvl 20 if you use that all the time rather than your other heals you will end up pretty dead

[/ QUOTE ]Why would you, anymore than after that? The -HP is persentage of your HP AFAIK, so doesn't matter what evel you are.

Personaly, I found AP invaluable at the low levels.

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So a damage power, not a control power? Bah, no point taking that epic then...

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im not too sure there are many "controllery" options in the epics not that i can think of at this early hour as most tend to be single target attack, aoe attack, armour and something else.

[/ QUOTE ]I know, the description just got my hopes up that devs could have for some reason given another AoE control option

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What do you expect, he's a h34l0rz without a heal...

Oh, and we're about level 12 now

[/ QUOTE ]Phew, you're levelling so slowly my current alt will propably never run into you

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I have to say I'm surprised, particularly before lvl 20, that not a single person you ever teamed with died because you ran out of endurance.


[/ QUOTE ]Absorb pain costs 1 END

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Ice Blast has DS 0.86 ( Ice Bolt is 0.65, Ice Sword is 1.23 and, for comparison, Impale is 1.18).

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Actually, looking at it again, those damage scales must be wrong. However Ice Sword does more damage than Ice Blast at all points of the game, and did so even before the melee damage boost.

[/ QUOTE ]Did you factor in different melee and ranged modifiers?

Oh, and wasn't there something about some dom attacks using rage instead of melee, or vice versa? Or am I just making sutff up again?

So a damage power, not a control power? Bah, no point taking that epic then...

/macro <name> "em attack$$say Kill $target$$petcom_all attack"

Well, all online descriptions I checked seem to state it's same power as fault from stone melee... It does seem odd for it to be in controller ancillary though...

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Here's an action screeny

[/ QUOTE ]I'm already damn tired, and now that poser guy is gonna give me nightmares...great :/

Around what level are you guys?

I'd say swap BU with snipe and hover with flamethrower, will make the low levels much more interesting.

Only time I notice it is when ressing people, it doesn't drain quite as much end as it used to... Other than that, useless for me.

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I love Empathys. No more End troubles and I can go semi-nuts and wade in without worrying too much.

[/ QUOTE ]Funny, that's the reason I love kins

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Be afraid. No seriously, totally [censored] afraid.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7-20-12-30.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]...But I wub pink...

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But when I have domination running nothing gets a chance to Mez because it is Mezzed.

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You're not reading everything.

You'll be able to activate Domination while mezzed, if you have the bar high enough of course. If Domination didn't provide Protection then you wouldn't be able to do anything if activating it while mezzed.

[/ QUOTE ]But if you normally activate domination everytime it's recharged, it's still useless

I'll have to pass, unless somebody wants to come pick me up from central finland

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