MaXimillion_Zero

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You just want K-9


[/ QUOTE ]You yougsters and your cybernetic dogs...Whe I was young all we had was Dogmeat, and we had to trap it within force fields to keep it alive.

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You had DOGMEAT?
We used to DREAM of dogmeat.

[/ QUOTE ]Not dogmeat, but Dogmeat

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You just want K-9


[/ QUOTE ]You yougsters and your cybernetic dogs...Whe I was young all we had was Dogmeat, and we had to trap it within force fields to keep it alive.

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On top of that, I think the lvl 15-20 Mayhem temp is a 'recall entire team' power, so that works just fine as well.


[/ QUOTE ]20-24, 15-19 is self res.

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Male figures have jiggery squat for leg options, all you get is a pair of skintight pants.

[/ QUOTE ]Kilts?

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and she doesn't dress particularly sexily either, usually wearing some form of martial-arts ropes.

[/ QUOTE ]From what I've seen on teh internets, a lot of people find wearing only ropes to be sexy

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Is the taunt factor on Blazing Aura really that [censored], or is just bugged at the moment?

[/ QUOTE ]Gauntlet and auras only work on minions since last patch, it be bugged. Also, I'd propably throw in a second ACC, you'll want BA to hit as much as possible.

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Does the arcane stuff still make turrets, or do they get a more magic-like type of defense system?

[/ QUOTE ]There's tech and arcane version of each item that can be built AFAIK, neither type has anything the other doesn't.

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Yeah, BF's do protect against knockback. That's why you can break out of Telekenisis (which is purely knockback) with them, but it's at a mighty cost of 4 BF's.

[/ QUOTE ]TK is hold and repel, not KB.

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Medicine pool at 24 and Taunt at 49... Say, you don´t team too often, do you?
Even for an ice tanker lvl 49 is a little bit very late for Taunt with all those AVs running around in the 40ies.

[/ QUOTE ]Oh, I team all the time, and keep full aggro against anything but AV's. And AV's should be easy to keep focused on the tank with the changes, once they fix auras and gauntlet, so no-taunt build is even more viable nowdays.

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Ive Been toying with the idea of doing an Ice/Axe tank, not sure how it would work though. build advice much apreciated ^^

[/ QUOTE ]It worked just fine for me, L41 atm.

My build:

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Ice Armor
Secondary: Battle Axe
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01) --> Hoarfrost==> Rechg(1)Rechg(3)Rechg(3)Heal(7)Heal(17)Heal(17)
01) --> Gash==> Acc(1)Dmg(9)Dmg(13)Dmg(15)
02) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(2)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(7)
04) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(4)
06) --> Beheader==> Acc(6)Dmg(9)Dmg(13)Dmg(15)Rechg(46)EndRdx(46)
08) --> Wet Ice==> EndRdx(8)
10) --> Hasten==> Rechg(10)Rechg(11)Rechg(11)
12) --> Hurdle==> Jump(12)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Glacial Armor==> EndRdx(18)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(23)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Swoop==> Acc(22)Dmg(23)Dmg(25)Dmg(25)Rechg(37)EndRdx(46)
24) --> Aid Other==> Heal(24)
26) --> Energy Absorbtion==> Rechg(26)Rechg(27)Rechg(27)DefBuf(34)DefBuf(34)EndMod(37)
28) --> Whirling Axe==> Acc(28)Dmg(29)Dmg(29)Dmg(33)Rechg(34)EndRdx(43)
30) --> Aid Self==> Heal(30)Heal(31)Heal(31)Rechg(31)IntRdx(33)EndRdx(33)
32) --> Hibernate==> Heal(32)
35) --> Cleave==> Acc(35)Dmg(36)Dmg(36)Dmg(36)Rechg(37)EndRdx(40)
38) --> Pendulum==> Acc(38)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)Rechg(40)EndRdx(40)
41) --> Char==> Acc(41)Hold(42)Hold(42)Hold(42)Rechg(43)Rechg(43)
44) --> Fire Blast==> Acc(44)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)
47) --> Fire Ball==> Acc(47)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)
49) --> Taunt==> Rechg(49)Taunt(50)
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Personally, I'd take rad for the 3 AoE's.

Ignite has always been powerful as long as you have some way of keeping your foe in place. If you don't, it's not that useful.

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as your fire blaster friend can wait those few seconds longer you could contain the aggro much easier

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Have you ever met a fire blaster? I get like 3 seconds, maybe 5...

[/ QUOTE ]Your blaster is way too slow

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You might need taunt duration SOs in them to completely hold aggro between ticks when you're fighting purples.

[/ QUOTE ]When you're fighting purples, things are NOT wroking correctly

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So anyway, a question about agro and taunting etc. I duo my ice/ice tank with a friends fire/fire blaster. I have to maintain agro through the massive AoE damage he pumps out. Is it possible to override a tanks taunt aura (slotted with a couple of taunt durations) by massively outdamaging them? Can they steal agro even through taunt?

[/ QUOTE ]There are two effects, Taunt and 'hate'. Attacking and damage generates hate, and hate is ALWAYS overridden by any existing taunt effects. Thus, it is impossible (When things are working right) to pull aggro from a foe (Not AV/GM) next to a tank (who has their aura on) with damage. To override taunt, you need to apply a taunt effect with twice the duration of the existing taunt.

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EDIT: Oh...just spotted the stuff about tanks agro auras being borked and not taunting properly. I assume this goes for CE? It seems to fit as it was the Lts that i couldn't keep agro from. I shall be annoyed if so because i've taken taunt much earlier than i wanted and had to put off more interesting stuff to much later.

[/ QUOTE ]Yup, auto-hit auras are apparently borked since last patch.

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Imo, best secondary for both ranged OR melee blaster is energy..

[/ QUOTE ]For PvP maybe. For PvE, I'd say elec is best ST and fire best AoE.

Pre-next patch I'd definitely say Ice, after it it's more even...but would still go with ice, propably.

I'd avoid icicles personally, CE is what you use for herding and the damage of icicles is irrelevant if you team with a blaster.

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Also, i have tried living with just SS as a travel power MANY MANY times and i've never been able to stick it out, it just drives me mental, fly or jump for me. Was thinking fly so i can get air supe, which i've always liked when i can take it.

[/ QUOTE ]Nowdays, however, we have the Zero-G and Raptor packs from safeguards, as well as the GvE jump pack if you've bought that, so SS is far more feasible.

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Castle should play the game a bit more in that case

[/ QUOTE ]He's discussing the change in next patch, not the current situation where AV's are immune to gauntlet.

Personally wouldn't skip hasten, since your survivability will be centered around EA, hibernate, hoarfrost, ice patch and (should you take it) aid self, all of which are clickies.

My build suggestion would be something like:

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Ice Armor
Secondary: Ice Melee
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01) --> Hoarfrost==> Rechg(1)Rechg(3)Rechg(3)Heal(7)Heal(15)Heal(15)
01) --> Frozen Fists==> Acc(1)Dmg(43)Dmg(46)Dmg(46)
02) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(2)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(7)
04) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(4)Taunt(17)Taunt(46)
06) --> Wet Ice==> EndRdx(6)
08) --> Frost==> Acc(8)Dmg(9)Dmg(9)Dmg(13)Rechg(13)EndRdx(17)
10) --> Hasten==> Rechg(10)Rechg(11)Rechg(11)
12) --> Hurdle==> Jump(12)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Glacial Armor==> EndRdx(18)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(25)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Ice Patch==> Rechg(22)Rechg(23)EndRdx(23)
24) --> Taunt==> Rechg(24)Taunt(25)
26) --> Energy Absorbtion==> Rechg(26)Rechg(27)Rechg(27)DefBuf(31)DefBuf(31)EndMod(33)
28) --> Freezing Touch==> Acc(28)Hold(29)Hold(29)Hold(31)Rechg(34)Rechg(34)
30) --> Stimulant==> IntRdx(30)
32) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(32)Rechg(33)Rechg(33)Heal(34)Heal(37)Heal(40)
35) --> Greater Ice Sword==> Acc(35)Dmg(36)Dmg(36)Dmg(36)Rechg(37)EndRdx(37)
38) --> Aid Self==> Heal(38)Heal(39)Heal(39)Rechg(39)IntRdx(40)IntRdx(40)
41) --> Char==> Acc(41)Hold(42)Hold(42)Hold(42)Rechg(43)Rechg(43)
44) --> Fire Blast==> Acc(44)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)
47) --> Fire Ball==> Acc(47)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)
49) --> Build Up==> Rechg(49)Rechg(50)
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It would be doubtful that would happen if you used nrg ab first. max as a question do u have a high lvl ice tank? because if u did u'd know that happens only extreme cases or at least it does for me

[/ QUOTE ]Yes, I do. I'm not saying it happens all the time, but that it does happen, and there's really nothing (apart for being perma RES buffed) you can do to prevent it.

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use in the yellow/orange range. I doubt theyll hit you with a truck in the meantime, nrg ab should keep them back a mo while you activate it

[/ QUOTE ]The issue aren't the situations where you have time to activate something like that. The issue are the times where you take several big hits in a row and are downed in a second.

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Noone'd be that stupid, I'm talkin bout pre emtively

[/ QUOTE ]That means you'd need a supply of several hundred orange insps for a long mish...