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Hey all, I just updated the site with two new heroes Dalamar & Thudd ! Please let me know what you think.

Man wow my earlier crit on 3rd place is being viciously revoked. Unless 3rd place winner drew the image or its © by Crypric/NC. Thats not the Official COH site either.

But hey their contest . Ill let them ruin....I mean run it as they see fit.

Yup that sounds about right to me.

Umm why are you still talking about this?

Better late than never huh?

ROFLMBAO!!!!

Pretty good paper, It looks as if you have acomplished what you were trying to with the Propaganda film feel. They only thing that seems a bit off is the font you used. A rugged worn COH logo would have been hot too!

As far as Cuppajo he did indeed say that. My only point was it seemed to contradict the offical rules. As I said in a previous post we all knew what was going on when we handed are entries over. It is their contest...shrugs!

So for the 2nd place winner I apologize for saying his entry should be DQed because obviously its cool with all the Cryptic kids! I do stand by my crit. though.

On a different note Sweetthang was nice enough to send me a supersized version of her paper . Look how crispy it is...yummy!

Really where maybe I missed it?

That image of the statesman can be found on the official site. In the manual which is on the site in high res. I never siad you claimed anything as your own. I said from my understanding of the rules your media source was not legit...this is all.

Honestly how could you feel like I targeted you i didnt even crit your paper. I just pointed out that It seemed to break the rules. Hey but since you feel like I targeted you then please let me appease you.

2nd place crit: While the layout is decent. The cuts on the 2 heros are pretty jagged. Also the grid pattern in the background is almost as knuckle kringing as lens flares. Other than that the pages from the comic pretty much made the entire image. Since this piece didnt get DQ'ed for what seems to me to be a rule violation. I would have to give it 4th place. I feel that paper 1,3,4 were of a much higher caliber.

Well there you go. Now you feeling targeted is justified. As I said before be glad you got second and have fun with your prizes. I couldnt wear the t-shirt anyway Im a fat guy...lol!

Truth of the matter is you did what you did...thats cool. What I'm saying is that what you did seemed to break some of the contest rules yet you placed second. I'm pretty sure you didnt set out to break said rules when you were designing your paper so trust me when I say that its not really targeted at you, but targeted at the way the competition was ran. So ill say this please enjoy your prizes, and your bumper sticker. I really can see putting a COH bumper sticker on my car...lol!


I dont believe I ever said you did.

Wait let me check...

Nope!

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What it says is: "taking an image and altering it slightly (via Photo Shop, for example), then presenting it as your own work is strictly prohibited.". In other words, you couldn't take a picture of Wolverine, color his eyes blue, then claim it was your own original piece of art. And he didn't alter the CoH comics. While he "prettied them up" layout wise, he never actually changed or modified any of the artwork.

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LOL dude your funny! Umm when he prettied them up....he modified them. I have that book and I can tell you that thats not how they looked in the book.

Ive grown tired of breaking this down to you so we can just agree to disagree...cool?...alright great!

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I mean, the contest allowed you to use images from the website. That, by definition, is photoshopping somebody else's work. Unless you want to capitalize Photoshop and say "I used The Gimp".

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Like you said allowed you to use images from the website to incorporate into your piece. Regardless of what program you used or how you incorporated it into your design. As I said in one of my previous posts if the comic book was fair game then what would be the point of submitting orginal artwork when everyone else had all the COH publications at their disposal?

Whoa! It says what you can use in the rule...

logos/graphics from COH.com
screenshots you took
and your orginal art

I dont see COH Official comic in that list. Well lets consider the far fetched.

Maybe he found it on the COH Offical site!
Or perhaps he found the current comic ingame and took a Screenshot!
Wait I got it!...He drew the comic and its his orginal work!


Lets just try really hard and pretend none of the above is true. If you look a bit deeper the person broke 2 rules not only did he use media that wasnt in the Ok list but by scanning and manipulating someone elses artwork he broke another rule.

I mean just think about it why would you want to create orginal art if you could just scan some art from the Official COH comic and make a super duper hot paper?

As I said before If I'm wrong then I extend my deepest apology. However at this point I think his should have be Dq'ed for sure

Please keep in mind these are just my opinions and I stick firmly to the belief that everyone is entitled to their own.

1st place: Good layout and coloring/overall color scheme. Someone compared it to Jim Lee’s style but I felt it looked a bit more like Rob Liefield. Definitely believe he should have placed just not 1st Someone also said he had the opportunity to make a change to his entry…not sure what that’s about but moving along.

2nd place: I think his entry should have been disqualified. The images in the background appear to be images from the most recent comic book. Clearly a violation of the rules on the site. If I’m wrong about that then I apologize. That’s just how I understood it.

Rules: You can use the following to create your wallpaper entries – logos/graphics from the Official City of Heroes web site, in-game images that you capture yourself, and of course, your own original work.

3rd Personally I believe this is the best of the bunch. Very creative! Very well executed! This would have been my choice for 1st place.

4th While not very functional as a wallpaper. I can see the work that went into it and think its place in the contest is appropriate.

5th This entry just doesn’t really feel COHish to me. It’s rather dark and the layout is kinda odd. I also don’t think the logo is in a good spot because many people have icons right there. The only thing that looks cool are the Kheldians, but I think the modelers and concept artist should get the props for that.

6th I cant be a very good judge of this piece because as soon as I see a PS lens flair I duck behind my chair and shudder in absolute horror. The paper also seems to have either a gradient overlay or lighting effects filter applied, and the results are a very murky looking. It also darkened the logo which didn’t seem like a good idea for such a contest.


On a side note I noticed this on the Contest page:
Al l participants will have their entries and their forum (or real names) and city/state or province/country of residence posted on the Heroes web site (http://www.cityofheroes.com).


Now all that being said. Aren’t you glad I wasn’t the judge…lol!

THOUGHT OF THE DAY:
To all the non winners all I can say is accept it for what it is. You knew when you submitted your art it was out of your hands, as did I. Sure there were a few “shady goings on” IMHO but hey at the end of the day who really gives a $... Now you have a cool wallpaper designed by you and a mess of them designed by others. So have fun with it and don’t lose any sleep.

First I do want to say congrats to all the winners! Some of them are a bit iffy but hey if that’s what the judges liked then it’s not too much that can be done at this point.


However this contest did seem a bit sketchy to me. For example they could have set up an auto responder for that e-mail address easily…thus letting all contestants know their entry was at least received. I also think it was strange how they posted some of the entries while the contest was still going on. I say this because by doing so it gave people submitting after that the luxury of knowing what their competitors submitted…Perhaps the people voting took that into consideration when they picked the winners, because it sure does look that way. I do understand why they didnt post all of the entries though...Can we say time consuming!


I posted my entry in another thread but ill post it here for those who may not have seen it. I think mine should have ranked up there somewhere, but hey what can I say I’m pretty biased…lol. I can tell you this if COH ever has another art/screenshot based competition I will think twice about entering.

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