MAD UMLAUTS

Originally Posted by Zahyl

Without TS melee toons would be completely worthless. Without HD AND TS fenders or cors with a spammable heal would never die. TS and HD balance zone PvP. These features make perfect sense. Of course people won't like them, but most of these people fail to understand their importance.

Originally Posted by _Neo_

Im a EU player that has recently returned to the game after around 2.5yrs and a lot has definitley changed and have a few questions:

Originally Posted by Clouded

Why doesn't recall friend do damage?

Originally Posted by Syndace

I completely agree with everything in this thread. I think a -Damage or -range component would make Grav a really unique and more fun set to play on top of the -SPD. -SPD is great but doesnt do much if the enemies are still shooting at you. The animation times could definitely use a little tweaking. Other than that its not a bad set, I think the visual FX are some of the coolest looking but that's just me.

Originally Posted by Blue_Fenix

Oh, and just for starters, here's all the scrapper numbers copy-pasted from the character creator (set to level 1):

Scrapper

Initial Strike

Average Damage:11.89 Damage Per Activation Time:11.11 Damage Per Cast Cycle:1.96 Activation Time:1.07s Recharge Time:5.00s Endurance Cost:6.03 Accuracy:1.00X Power Type:Click Target Type:Enemies Power Range:7.00 ft. Effect Area:Single Target Attack Types:melee, smashing 11.89 smashing damage on target 5.00% chance for 11.89 smashing damage on target Only against minions and underlings 5.35 fire damage on target Only using Fiery Embrace 30.00% chance for 0.67 magnitude knockback on target

Heavy Blow

Average Damage:11.89 Damage Per Activation Time:11.11 Damage Per Cast Cycle:1.96 Activation Time:1.07s Recharge Time:5.00s Endurance Cost:6.03 Accuracy:1.00X Power Type:Click Target Type:Enemies Power Range:7.00 ft. Effect Area:Single Target Attack Types:melee, smashing 11.89 smashing damage on target 5.00% chance for 11.89 smashing damage on target Only against minions and underlings 5.35 fire damage on target Only using Fiery Embrace 30.00% chance for 0.67 magnitude knockback on target

Sweeping Cross

Average Damage:15.38 Damage Per Activation Time:9.21 Damage Per Cast Cycle:1.59 Activation Time:1.67s Recharge Time:8.00s Endurance Cost:8.53 Accuracy:1.00X Available Level:2 Power Type:Click Target Type:Enemies Power Range:7.00 ft. Effect Area:Cone -- 7.00 ft. radius 50.00 degree arc (5 targets max) Attack Types:melee, smashing 15.38 smashing damage on target Only at Combo Level 0 16.14 smashing damage on target Only at Combo Level 1 17.22 smashing damage on target Only at Combo Level 2 19.22 smashing damage on target Only at Combo Level 3 5.00% chance for 15.38 smashing damage on target Only against minions and underlings 20.00% chance for 3.00 magnitude stun for 4.80s on target Only at Combo Level 0 23.00% chance for 3.00 magnitude stun for 4.80s on target Only at Combo Level 1 26.00% chance for 3.00 magnitude stun for 4.80s on target Only at Combo Level 2 30.00% chance for 3.00 magnitude stun for 4.80s on target Only at Combo Level 3 40.00% chance for 0.67 magnitude knockback on target Only at Combo Level 3 6.92 fire damage on target Only using Fiery Embrace

Combat Readiness

Activation Time:1.17s Recharge Time:1m 30s Endurance Cost:5.20 Accuracy:1.00X Available Level:6 Power Type:Click Target Type:Self Effect Area:Single Target +20.00% to hit for 10.00s on self unresistable +62.50% strength to all damage for 10.00s on self Ignores buffs and enhancements unresistable

Rib Cracker

Average Damage:13.53 Damage Per Activation Time:10.17 Damage Per Cast Cycle:1.85 Activation Time:1.33s Recharge Time:6.00s Endurance Cost:6.86 Accuracy:1.00X Available Level:8 Power Type:Click Target Type:Enemies Power Range:7.00 ft. Effect Area:Single Target Attack Types:melee, smashing 13.53 smashing damage on target 5.00% chance for 13.53 smashing damage on target Only against minions and underlings 6.09 fire damage on target Only using Fiery Embrace -11.25% strength to all damage for 5.00s on target Ignores buffs and enhancements -7.50% resistance to all damage for 5.00s on target Ignores buffs and enhancements

Confront

Activation Time:1.67s Recharge Time:3.00s Accuracy:1.00X Available Level:12 Power Type:Click Target Type:Enemies Power Range:70.00 ft. Effect Area:Single Target Attack Types:ranged +400.00% taunt for 11.25s on target -75.00% strength to range for 12.00s on target Ignores buffs and enhancements

Spinning Strike

Average Damage:15.78 Damage Per Activation Time:8.77 Damage Per Cast Cycle:0.89 Activation Time:1.80s Recharge Time:16.00s Endurance Cost:15.18 Accuracy:1.00X Available Level:18 Power Type:Click Target Type:Enemies Power Range:7.00 ft. Effect Area:AoE -- 6.00 ft. radius (10 targets max) Attack Types:melee, smashing 7.89 smashing damage on target Only at Combo Level 0 7.89 smashing damage on target after 0.40s delay Only at Combo Level 0 8.29 smashing damage on target Only at Combo Level 1 8.29 smashing damage on target after 0.40s delay Only at Combo Level 1 8.84 smashing damage on target Only at Combo Level 2 8.84 smashing damage on target after 0.40s delay Only at Combo Level 2 9.87 smashing damage on target Only at Combo Level 3 9.87 smashing damage on target after 0.40s delay Only at Combo Level 3 50.00% chance for 0.67 magnitude knockback on target after 0.40s delay Only at Combo Level 0 57.50% chance for 0.67 magnitude knockback on target after 0.40s delay Only at Combo Level 1 65.00% chance for 0.67 magnitude knockback on target after 0.40s delay Only at Combo Level 2 75.00% chance for 0.67 magnitude knockback on target after 0.40s delay Only at Combo Level 3 5.00% chance for 15.78 smashing damage on target Only against minions and underlings 30.00% chance for 3.00 magnitude terrorize for 6.00s on target Only at Combo Level 3 7.10 fire damage on target Only using Fiery Embrace

Shin Breaker

Average Damage:16.81 Damage Per Activation Time:12.64 Damage Per Cast Cycle:1.80 Activation Time:1.33s Recharge Time:8.00s Endurance Cost:11.86 Accuracy:1.00X Available Level:26 Power Type:Click Target Type:Enemies Power Range:7.00 ft. Effect Area:Single Target Attack Types:melee, smashing 16.81 smashing damage on target -40.00% run speed for 8.00s on target 1.60 fly protection for 8.00s on target -40.00% strength to jump height for 8.00s on target Ignores buffs and enhancements -40.00% jump speed for 8.00s on target 5.00% chance for 16.81 smashing damage on target Only against minions and underlings -7.50% defense for 10.00s on target 7.56 fire damage on target Only using Fiery Embrace

Crushing Uppercut

Average Damage:32.60 Damage Per Activation Time:15.02 Damage Per Cast Cycle:1.20 Activation Time:2.17s Recharge Time:25.00s Endurance Cost:14.35 Accuracy:1.20X Available Level:32 Power Type:Click Target Type:Enemies Power Range:13.00 ft. Effect Area:Single Target Attack Types:melee, smashing 32.60 smashing damage on target Only at Combo Level 0 34.22 smashing damage on target Only at Combo Level 1 36.51 smashing damage on target Only at Combo Level 2 40.74 smashing damage on target Only at Combo Level 3 5.00% chance for 32.60 smashing damage on target Only against minions and underlings 3.00 magnitude stun for 6.00s on target Only at Combo Level 0 3.00 magnitude stun for 6.30s on target Only at Combo Level 1 3.00 magnitude stun for 6.90s on target Only at Combo Level 2 3.00 magnitude hold for 7.80s on target Only at Combo Level 3 3.00 magnitude knockup on target 14.67 fire damage on target Only using Fiery Embrace

Originally Posted by Blue_Fenix

What numbers do you want? I can look them up and post them all for you.

Originally Posted by Ramon_NA

s (btw the Geas of the Kind Ones is not working on redside! that sux!), so she made 0->400 in 1 week even I am not PvP that much(i got 17 50s and new power sets come out...so..u know that).

Originally Posted by FlyingRed

I guess all I can say is before I13 I had a DB WP I used to pvp with. I got laughed at on Infinity with lulz DB, but in an arena match or fight club I could put out mega dps without the combos, that being said it is possible to take down a mm or something that is moving, but not running half the map. It's the same principle Shred Monkey used in soilingAV's. So I could see where the dps can run down almost anything if the attack chain is set up well enough. However, I do not see DB standing up in a place like Freedom RV where there is a constant rolling war and not a fight club. So I guess it works like this fight club yes, pvp no- Lulz Justice PVP. Almost makes me want to transfer something there just for giggles.

Originally Posted by Second City Saint

Hey why dont you start a FIght Club here on Vic. Us brawlers want are own ladder none of that Kiting stuff.