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Originally Posted by Another_Fan

Are PvP drops actually helping PvP a hypothetical conversation between a PvPer and a PvEer


PVE: Hi, I heard that PvP is kind of fun in this game can you help me get started.

PVP: Well its not nearly as fun anymore its a game that might as well been made by a moron

PVE: Oh but if I wanted to give it a try.

PVP: Ok lets look at you. Your power selections are crap

PVE: I have to do a second build ?

PVP: No you have to do second character (SR/Ice Blast/Empathy .../Fire control) are all worthless.

PVE: Ok so I have to do a second character and get him up level and this will put me on an even footing ? That is kind of tough it took me a long time to get this one done.

PvP: Oh don't expect to be on an even footing, you have a SO build, There are all kinds of specialists out there that will just destroy you with that. If you dont have KB protection/Plus perception/increased HP/ Increased Recharge

PVE: Its going to take me hundreds of hours to get that done, I mean I have been playing the game for years and my main still isn't where I want him to be.

PVP: Well get your character powerleveled and use the market or find some other fast way to raise inf.

PVE: Once I do all that its really fun at least ?

PVP: Oh Yeah, Black Barrier has great tales of how he got people so upset they were sending him hate mail, and Skeet destroyed badgers by the bucketload while they were in zone.*

*Read prior posts in this thread. I have considerably worse these are just convenient.

PVE: [sheepishly] well the conversation and atmosphere is good ?

PVP: Yeah as long as you can get past the mental game and the things people will say to put you off your game.

PVE: Like what ? Are they going to point behind me and say wow claudia shiffer ? Female Characters go around flashing ?

PVP: No more like if they think you are female they will suggest you put strange things into odd orifices, scratch that they will suggest that even if you are male. You know things they think will really rile you up and get you to make stupid moves.

PVE: Is there anything thats really great ?

PVP: Well there are these drops you can get only in PvP.

PVE: Well thanks, I'll get back to you on this. Our SG is having a dance party costume contest next week, some really nice people will be there.
{PVEer to himself: Boy that was close, glad I decided to check things out first}

PVP: I'll get back to you on that. {To himself: Whiny fing Carebear what did he expect it would be like}

Or perhaps he would say something like this quote to himself about the PvEer just being a precious flower.




I do have to ask if you are better at something just how are they dragging you down again ?

Originally Posted by Dispari

I won't debate "popular" since it's pretty obvious black fire (black everything really) is popular. What I will debate is boring, interesting, creative.

I see dozens of powers colored black every day. Mostly black fire. Doesn't turn my head cause it's so common. I do however occasionally see someone with a color scheme that makes me double take and compliment them on it.

For instance:
1) Radioactive fire; Thermal colored to match Rad Blast
2) Pale green "mystic" fire and electricity
3) White-colored spines to look like protruding bones
4) Differently colored sonic buffs that blend the musical scales smoothly
5) Dark purple Plant Control to be deadly nightshade plants
6) All the cool combinations of colors that Phantom Army can have
7) Blue, red, and yellow Energy pompoms used with /e jugglemagic
8) Earth Control colored red and green to make a blooming crystal flower with immob + hold

Three of those are mine. Try and guess!

Originally Posted by Dispari

"Superior" is quite debatable, but so far I've only seen one person using radioactive fire, while I could go count 10 using black fire if I made a lap right now!

And here's your eyeroll:

Originally Posted by Sigium

I love this thread so much. Aett, I'm tempted to ask you not to feed the trolls, but I'm so very entertained that I just can't do that.

Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper

"The Morgan" needs to be there

Originally Posted by Santorican

Sorry I didn't mean going for set bonus recovery I meant taking stamina, and quick recovery. Also if you have a lot of recharge you will have permanent dull pain and with accolades and dull pain you're sitting about 5 hp away from the scrapper hp cap.

Originally Posted by Werner

The Stalker stealth cap is MUCH higher than others, 1143 feet in PvP at level 50 vs. 852 for VEATs and 572 for all others. Being invisible is CENTRAL to how a Stalker plays (or so I hear - I don't have one).

You can do a lot to improve your perception. Tactics, Focused Accuracy, Rectified Reticle, yellows, and probably other techniques. Some sets offer perception as well, but not Katana/Regen. Perception on VEATs caps at 1261 feet, and on all other ATs caps at 1153. So even if you cap your perception, you STILL won't see a Stalker until it's 10 feet away, which is probably too late.

In contrast, if you hit the invisibility cap on your Scrapper, people with capped perception will still see you from 581 feet away. You're invisible, but they have infravision, ultravision, magical sight of some sort, sonar, etc., so they see you anyway.

Still, you're a Regeneration Scrapper. You have burst healing to deal with getting hit by a Stalker. Try to see the game from their perspective in this. Yeah, they get the first shot, and it's a really nice shot, but then you just heal and they have to run. They can't kill you, ever, as long as you're on your game. How frustrating is that? Probably more frustrating than having to click a heal occasionally. And if you get dropped by a team of Stalkers, well, you'd have been dropped by a team of archetypes X, Y and Z, so it doesn't really have anything to do with them being Stalkers.

Again, I don't PvP, so if I'm way off base on how this goes down in practice rather than in my head, my apologies.

Originally Posted by Santorican

Okay carry inspirations and what else positive has he said? Nothing else lol



Okay dealing with toggle debuffs, what is a good way to work passed those? I don't know much about PvP and the levels pertaining to it so I have no clue what is good or bad.

Originally Posted by NordBlast

Because they posted for 1.5B

Originally Posted by Santorican

Okay next question when dealing with slow type enemies how do you compensate for that? If you're stuck on an ice patch or some large aoe slow for an example? Will phasing help with that or are you just sol?

Originally Posted by macskull

Story-oriented players won't touch it with a ten-foot pole because of the reasons Joule mentioned, and rewards-oriented players won't touch it with a ten-foot pole because the hero will be taking all their rewards. Both types of players are better served with the final mission of the "A Hero's Hero" arc, where you free Statesman and he'll basically clear the map for you, which gives full rewards since it's a dev-created mission.

Originally Posted by GibberingLunatic

This thread is about the loyalty badge, not someones ability to quit smoking.
And you haven't walked a day in my shoes to know how rough it is where I'm at. So don't assume you know everything when in fact, you know nothing.


He made the mention of cutting off my cigs when in the end that would cause me stress, and possible panic attacks later on down the line. Perhaps causing me my home, any future job I might get (in the middle of quitting) or friends because I flipped out on them.
I can't afford the medication for what I have and this is the closest thing I got. Back to the "loyalty" badge now plz kthxbai.

Originally Posted by je_saist

um. No. Brutes and stalkers do not get energize. So... um. There's no point here. The cottage rule isn't working through energize, since energize is not in the Villain sets.

So yes, porting changes back is a BIG ISSUE for the developers.

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Originally Posted by je_saist

They'd also run into the very serious problem that they caused with Electric Armor. Electric Armor on Scrappers / Tanks is heads and shoulders above the Eletric Armor on Stalkers / Brutes due to Energize, and I seem to recall a significant amount of forum backlash over the changes not getting ported back to Stalkers / Brutes. I am directly aware of a large in-game backlash across Supergroups, Coalitions, and various global channels with many players repeatedly comparing their Hero Electric to their Villain Electric and unable to get over just how good the Hero version is in a comparative manner.

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Originally Posted by ELF_STALKER

I recornized through PVP community on Champion as one those greats.