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Quote:Thousands of dollars in lawyers fees aren't worth a few hundred dollars back from NCsoft.Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
Then sounds like you people and the people that got "ripped off", have a very solid case and should go ahead and sue them and the case should be a slam dunk for ya'll and be over quickly. Why isnt that in the works? What is stopping ya? With evidence that solid, you shouldnt even need a lawyer to prove that fraud. Its been what about two months now nearly since the refund announcement and no one started a case? Is it hesitation because the case is not as solid as they try to put on like the was hording points for months instead of actually spending them knowing an online game can end at any moment? Or is it they are just heated right now but knwo in their hearts that it is not fraud?
If might not be illegal right now but neither was slavery 300 years ago.
It will change eventually because people are/will get sick of buying something like oh say a video game with a box(COH) then just cause it's on a computer and online they say "hey we can take this away when ever we want you only rented it" when no other console games this happens.
**** me I get the rental part I have cable and a phone and internet but this is like my cable company cancelling their service then stopping by to try and take my television and my internet provider trying to take my computer, get it? NCsoft cancelled their service and now are taking my game.
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Quote:They were selling cash shop items up until they day before they announced the shut down of COH and even advertising them. This should be considered fraud as far as I'm concerned.Originally Posted by Zem
Which reason applies here? There's no fraud if you were never promised the game would last forever. Consumer health/safety? Don't think so. Environmental concerns? I doubt it. Anti-trust? Nope. So what legal basis would you choose for this law? You are essentially asking the government to impose a value-add feature into a product because... you want it. That's not how this should work and it would set a very bad precedent. Heck, I'm a liberal-leaning moderate and even I wouldn't want THIS much government meddling in product design.
There is still people that have hundreds of dollars of paragon points they won't get refunded all because they bought them before some arbitrary date NCsoft decided upon. -
Quote:Sorry but that's not how the law works. We don't stop charging and arresting people stealing pension funds cause they aren't hurting anyone physically. Laws are made not just to protect people from harm but also secure them from fraud among various other reason..Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
Was refering to the game industry.
But even in that realm, closing a game is like a company choosing to discontinue a product.
Closing a game causes no harm to anyone so what is the logic for making a law forcing them to keep it running? That law above is like forcing GM to continue to make the Pontiac forever. I dont believe that the closing of this game caused actual injury or danger to anyone. It's a trivial matter that shouldnt even be worth the time of the law process especially when there are more important issues that should be addressed that effects actual health and lives.
GM can discontinue their Pontiac all they like but they can't take away the Pontiac they sold to people when they do but apparently MMO producers/developers can. This is what needs to change. -
Quote:Can't win unless you playOriginally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
...and I don't buy lottery tickets.
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Quote:Jesus christ you make it sound like making game developers have offline servers would be the end of online video games as we know it, hyperbole much?Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
While a law to do that sounds like a nice idea, it wont be in practice. You think games now are trying to be WoW or WoW is the only one of it's kind? With that law, Game makers will take their buisness elsewhere, stop maling games for here or build games that are imatation of the most successful one to minimize risks.
They wont come up with risky ideas with laws that make those ideas not even worth the risk.
If a law like that existed prior to COX, then I can bet that COX would have never existed and instead of been a reskinned WoW grind fest.
Sorry but selling something to someone one day then taking it away the next cause it's digital and your EULA BS said you could should be criminal and I hope one day it is. -
Quote:They would be forced to have an offline version off that game. There is plenty of console games that when the servers shut down you still have the offline version most the time of which online stuff(loot,costumes etc) carry over to.Originally Posted by Zem
And what exactly would you do about in-game virtual goods once a game is closed? And mind you, it has to be something that doesn't prevent companies from wanting to do business at all. Therefore, you can't write laws that force them to keep games open forever or to refund all virtual purchases when the game closes. Or rather, you could, but then game companies simply wouldn't make these games in the first place. Not where these laws exist anyway.
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OK this is awesome halloween prank by LG
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...155753236.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeXMxuNNlE8 youtube version
SPOILERS
They outfitted the floor of an elevator with HD monitors and made it look like the floor was giving way and recorded the peoples terrifying reactions for our amusement.
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Quote:I'm not a business man by any means but that sounds absolutely wrong on so many levels please let me explain myself.Originally Posted by Starsman
If I'm not wrong the "standard" for most industries is for businesses to be priced at about a year-worth of income. I think that would set the sale of Paragon Studios at a minimum price tag of about 8 million.
Ok so say what you saying is true Paragon is pulling 8 mill a year. Well what if only 1 million is profit or even 2 million profit. At 8 million it's gonna take the team that buys the game 4 to 8 years just to pull even. Ok but you could get some savvy business men in there cut costs in all the right places half that cost of development and you may may break even in 2 years and that sounds about where I can think a potential investor would sit industry standard be damned.
Just general question to the forums how long would you want to sit on an 8 year old game before making a profit and still feel comfortable as an investor? -
Aw people denying the game aint dead till the very end somethings never change.
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I use to lure Monsters from the far end of Peregrine to Portal corp to kill the spammers begging for a power level. I love power leveling but hate spammers.
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OK time to make this a ride at 6 Flags
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Quote:Ya you know like EVE /endsarcasmOriginally Posted by bpphantom
So one of those obscure, generally seen to have failed MMOs?
Only two space MMOs(niche if I ever heard of one) I can think of EVE and Start Trek of the two EVE is way more popular and is also way more hardcore. Some say the learning curve is like stepping off a cliff.
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Maybe Super Hero MMOs aren't the niche we all think they are. Maybe they have just been to easy, to care bear friendly, not enough grind no challenge so that's why it's a niche. Just to ******* easy.
People may not like the grind but they absolutely love the satisfaction and this game this just isn't enough challenge to equal the satisfaction I'm talking about. Someone needs to make a super hero MMO that is actually hard and doesn't hold your god damn hand the entire way threw. Now maybe that game will not attract this games type of user base but if you want to be big, get big, stay big well you have to stop worrying about the small fry.
You want to rule the casual market tough Nintendo already beat you by 3 decades. MMOs and casual just doesn't seem to fit all that well and so the real niche in the MMO market is trying to be casual and not super heroes.
TL;DR the real niche of MMOs is casual and not super heroes. -
That actually looks pretty fun ima go try it.
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Quote:They come to Canada and they pick Halifax of all places. Not a border city like Niagara falls or Windsor or a big city like Toronto or Montreal or Ottawa but bummfuckhalifaxOriginally Posted by TonyV
October 26, 27, 28: Hal-Con (Halifax, Nova Scotia)
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The thought that counts right? -
Quote:no idea but it sounds exciting doesn't it.Originally Posted by Quin
What in crappity does that even mean?
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Quote:The more I hear about this secret project the more sad I get at never being able to play it. Sounded real promising to a gamer like myself. I hope one day in the no so distant future the beans get spilled about the details and such and hopefully gets picked up by another studio/developer what have you.Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
The studio was shutdown because the "NEW" secret project aimed at the evolved hardcore gamer was in a different direction than NC SOFT wanted to go period. -
In Windsor Ontario next Friday October the 12th is a zombie walk. There's gonna be hundreds of people going lots of hot zombie girls/guys. Chance to scare old people and young children and animals alike. Should be fun everyone goes drinking afterwords just no bath salts
Here's the link if anyone is interested
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Put it on a console too I'm tired of playing games on mouse and keyboard not nearly as comfy as sitting back on a couch with a 40 inch or whatever TV size you got. Also give it an offline version so you know when the servers shut down we can still keep playing.
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She told me not to step on the cracks
I told her not to fuss and relax
Pretty little face stopped me in my tracks
But now she sleeps with one eye open
That's the price she'll pay
I took a knife and cut out her eye
I took it home and watched it wither and die
Well, she's lucky that I didn't slip her a smile
That's why she sleeps with one eye open
That's the price she'll pay
I said, hey, girl with one eye
Get your filthy fingers out of my pie
I said, hey, girl with one eye
I'll cut your little heart out cause you made me cry
I slipped my hand under her skirt
I said don't worry, it's not gonna hurt
Oh, my reputation's kinda clouded with dirt
That's why you sleep with one eye open
But that's the price you pay
I said, hey, girl with one eye
Get your filthy fingers out of my pie
I said, hey, girl with one eye
I'll cut your little heart out cause you made me cry
You made me cry
You made me cry
You made me cry
I said, hey, girl with one eye
Get your filthy fingers out of my pie
I said, girl with one eye
Get your filthy fingers out my pie
I said, hey, girl with one eye
Get your filthy fingers out of my pie
I said, hey, girl with one eye
I'll cut your little heart out cause you made me cry -
Quote:+1 internetOriginally Posted by Xzero45
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Quote:Is that why Aion is still up and running why COX is shutting down?Originally Posted by Slaunyeh
You're being awfully defensive. Maybe you should go to their forums and talk about how great it is, eh?
Aion had some pretty impressive animations (also significantly more impressive than that hammer limply moving up and down) and still managed to fall way short of CoH's level of quality. IMHO obviously. -
Wanna talk about cheesy how throwing a rock at someone here in COX they ducking behind a wall and still getting hit now that is pure cheese.
Anyway so long COX community who thinks they are better then everyone else have fun with your holier then thou attitude. I'm done here and with this game like it matters it will be in it's grave soon and no one wants to buy a 8 year old MMO with a 10 year old game engine. Just to obsolete. -
Quote:So cheesy they have an MMO that isn't dying LOLOL and they have like 5 or 6 games using the animations. Must be doing something right.Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
That looks cheesy as hell.