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Quote:This is very true, I have trained myself to use weaker attacks in order to finish off weaker enemies, mostly from playing corrs and utilizing scourge to defeat mobs with the least overkill possible.Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
This is true for any damage buff. Unless you save your weakest attacks for last, under no circumstances is this something that only applies to Scourge.
This is even more important pre-SOs and pre-stam (pre-19), where you don't want to spend extra effort on an enemy that didn't warrant the endurance expenditure. I translated this onto my other characters especially while leveling.
Edit: Also scourge scales very well when you start fighting things at a much higher con then normal, where even LTs take some effort to kill and dont get wiped from just random AoEs. And certain bosses that can take ages to kill. (like Cim bosses) -
Quote:APPs =\= PPPs,Originally Posted by Brakner
Um AoE immobilization and Res Shield?
I don't know about you but on my Bots and Mercs it gets pretty annoying when mobs constantly get blown out of the Tar Patch, Freezing Rain, Burn Patch ( insert random stationary power here )
Also, Res shields are a good thing to halve the incoming damage if you're are not a tankermind and not in bodyguard 24/7
He is talking about the epics that came from hero side, which are full of tier 1 blasts and melee attacks, and some shields. Unlike the patrons that all have AoE immobs and some type of shield, along with other powers. -
A crab spider was able to do the pylon test in a very very respectable time in the scrapper forums. Even tho it was a specialized build, apparently the pets did a large portion of his damage.
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Quote:Same for me, I enjoyed every minute of the movie.Originally Posted by Hazmatter
Honestly?
Better than The Expendables, IMHO.
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Quote:You can stay offended, I'll take my softcapped S/L defense or my 90% S/L 'resistance' on my MM.Originally Posted by Halon
Personally, I refuse to take the epic powers on my masterminds -- it's highly offensive we're the only ones who don't get an epic pet. >:-(
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Quote:Originally Posted by Tatum
I like to think its because in Dark Mastery, soul drain is a tier3 power. Soul Mastery has more utillity and the inclusion of power boost. Hence Soul mastery having the longer recharge.
Dominators had Soul Drain at the same recharge as Dark mastery but they specifically nerfed that to its current recharge equal to the corruptors version. -
I'm not going to respond that to all of text with quotes, but all I have to say is this, if you thing that using pets is harder then blasting on a defender and takes up more time then you are spending too much time baby sitting them. I have no problem using all my support powers on MY bot/dark, using bodyguard mode and still keeping all my support powers on cooldown as needed.
Also personal defense IS your own support, unless you want to say that support can only come from other people? or a buff? Things like World of Pain is as much support for yourself as others. -
Quote:Not to mention, since you gain endurance and not recovery, its immune to -recovery debuffs and you can still gain end while having your recovery flatlined.Originally Posted by AnElfCalledMack
Performance Shifter: Chance for +End has a 20% chance to give 10 End every 10 seconds in an auto power. That means you average out 2 end per 10 seconds, or 0.2 EPS, regardless of the value of the power it's slotted in. Stamina has a base +recovery of 25%.
The formula is MaxEnd * (1 + RecoveryBuff) / 60, so the break-point between EndMod IOs and PS procs is when the enhancement (0.424 of the power's Recovery buff) gives an extra 0.2 EPS.
0.2 = (MaxEnd/60)*(0.424*PowerRecovery)
12 = 0.424*MaxEnd*PowerRecovery
28.30 = MaxEnd*PowerRecovery
For a character with no MaxEndurance bonuses, that means the IO is better if the power's native recovery bonus exceeds 28.3% - so Quick Recovery gets more from the IO, but Stamina prefers the proc even on the first slot.
If your maximum Endurance is 113.2 or more, though, the EndMod IO pulls ahead in the first slot. Regardless, if you're three-slotting stamina, QR, or whatever, the third IO is hit by so much ED that it's only worth 0.1412 actual enhancement, replacing the 0.424 in the eqation, and giving a no-MaxEnd-boost break point of 84.99% native recovery boost. To get that down to even Quick Recovery's 30% boost, you need 283 Endurance at maximum. So yeah, the PS proc is definitely a better deal for the third slot.
Also, the PS proc is not unique. You can slot it in both PP and Stamina, and enjoy an extra 0.4 EPS. If you only have one, though, put it in PP - lower base values means smaller gains from normal enhancements, and a bigger relative gain from procs and their constant boosts. -
Quote:Your pets support YOU by keeping you alive, even if they did no damage, unless you don't know what Bodyguard mode is or don't use it? By taking the pets, I can use my support to keep the rest of the team alive, instead of completely relying on my secondary to keep me alive.Originally Posted by Edana
Killing things and getting hit by them is not support; Scrappers are not a support AT. Some pets do have support powers though, and the Lich... Good point, it's not really the having pets I was finding a problem, more that after bubbling 6 pets and 7 teammates I didn't have enough endurance to do much besides recover for the next buff cycle and with the new AoE buffs replacing a couple of zombies would mean having to drink almost a full column of blues.
Ok, so my argument for 'petless' seems to suffer from a black/white view of either having all pets or none; taking Lich and possibly Grave Knights but skipping the horde would cut the amount of pet buffing in half and remove the squishier stuff so reduce resummon costs a lot. Does skipping the tier 1 pets sound reasonable? Getting bubbles and fearsome stare on the same character is definitely appealing enough to take Lich again, and Grave Knights look like they do a lot more damage than the Horde would for the amount of maintainance required.
Edit: Uh, this thread is about Static Field? Sorry about the major threadjack :/
Petless MMs are not unplayable, but dont go around saying that its allows more effective support compared to taking the pets, that's the same king of thing, 'pure support' defenders used to say for why they don't blast. It didn't work for them, and it doesnt work for petless MMs. -
Quote:Yes, the PS stacks can only occur from KM attacks, but after you get the stacks the +dmg is just generic +dmg, so it applies to all attacks, which boosts up things like APPs and attacks from your secondary, like Shield Charge and Damage auras.Originally Posted by Hallowed
Gotcha. So the boost from SP does affect all (non-temp-power) attacks, not just KM attacks. I thought that was the case, but wasn't sure.
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PS can't stack due to how its coded, its limited to 5 stacks of the buff, at all times. So if it refreshes during PS's duration, just save it until it runs out or if its not worth using immediatly, save it for the next spawn.
For APPs or PPPs, I would go for one that has an AoE attack like Mu or Fire, to take advantage of the extra +dmg to combine with Brust for more AoE goodness.
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Quote:Some scrapper secondaries have taunts in their auras. So thats three of four. Kheldians and Blasters aren't FORCED into melee range, they can when it is approperiate. IE when they know they wont get mezzed or can deal with it. The melee ATs CAN'T, beyond a few sets, they all operate purely at melee range, and overall have less ways of taking out a mezer besides just defeating it. So YES they will absorb more mezzes and can easily get killed if they get overwhelmed by mezzes, tsoo ink men are a perfect example of that.Originally Posted by Edana
I agree that certain powers in sets can be 'core powers' that are part of what makes a set good and the set would overall be less effective without them. My disagreement was specifically with the use of 'unplayable'. Concept characters all over don't take powers that don't 'fit'. Petless MMs deliberately lose 5-6 powers from their primary, but a well built one is still playable as a support character; in fact without the pets to distract them it could be argued that they are better at that part of their role (and prior to GR this was the only way to get a /FF character redside.)
Static field is a very good variation on a sleep with a nice secondary effect, but since there are some people (me included) that found they couldn't use it without the graphic effects giving them a headache, I know that the set is perfectly playable without it.
Two of the four standard ATs that have mez protection have taunt inherents and auras, two don't and one even has placate and hide. Kheldians can fight in melee and skipping dwarf form hardly makes the character unplayable. Half the blaster sets include PBAoEs and blappers are a playable (if insane) build style. Mez protection is very useful, playing with it is a lot easier than playing without it, but it isn't essential to have a power in your build that gives it to you. -
Quote:Square released the game knowing that it had many game ending flaws and convoluted systems. They told reviewers to hold off on reviewing the game until they could give the game its first major update, instead of just fixing this stuff during beta, where testers kept telling Square enix about all of these problems.Originally Posted by Jibikao
Oh, I am a Final Fantasy fan here but I've never played FF11 the online game. I watched the newest online game and it looks pretty cool.
Maybe it needs time to grow? -
Yes, WAI, you are not getting a free 20% defense slotted just for being a Bot MM, 10% defense for free is crazy enough.
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Quote:The ATs that have mez protection tend to have powers that force enemies to target them over other players, which will cause them to absorb more mezzes then other ATs. And then there is the fact that they fight in melee range...Originally Posted by Edana
As it happens my /stone brute didn't take Rooted until her respec after gaining Granite, before that the movement penalties for using it were more annoying to me than having to keep a stock of break frees or ask someone on the team if they had Clear Mind (one of the other versions usually, not a lot of empaths redside at the time).
Half the ATs don't even have access to mez protection. Yes mez is annoying, but having a power that protects against it is only one way to combat the problem. The MFing tactics don't just work on warshades. -
Quote:Because of how Static Field and Conductive Aura scale, as long as you are fighting large enough spawns, you can easily stay positive or just max out in end.Originally Posted by DrMike2000
Since you brought it up, I did just this on a SR Stalker. It worked, but only because I was the bottom of the threat list on teams and hardly ever got hit due to being soft-capped.
I wouldn't try it on a resistance based Tank though.
On topic more, my Elec/Elec dom, now 27, hasn't taken Stamina. I've found the end return from Static Field and +recovery from Conductive Aura (3-slotted for end mod) have done me fine until now.
Domination's end bar refill helps too of course, but its not felt critical, like I'm not gasping by the time I hit Domination, and often save it if I dont need to mez boost.
Its amusing to be almost empty and stand in a 8 spawn mob with Static Field and watch your end bar go up by a third per tick. -
For one build, you can only have one EPP or PPP, so you take either body, or leviathan or Mu. etc. This requires that you have the patron badge in order to take PPPs. You can also have a different power pool in your second build.
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Quote:Um no sorry you are wrong, if you are going to start adding more power together, then you can't compared them to one power. Frozen Aura + Frost vs Footstomp + Rage. OH BUT WAIT, Ice melee still has build up. SS might beat out ice melee, especially in a high recharge build, but to state that it doesn't come close, you are being disingenuous.Originally Posted by Auroxis
When's the last time you saw a level 50 /SS Tank without perma Rage? Rage is a part of the equation when talking about Foot Stomp and SS attacks in general, always.
Frost is a subpar attack when it comes to AoE. It's still a melee cone, and won't give you the AoE coverage you'll often want.
As for Ice type damage, it helps but it's not gonna put you on par with Foot Stomp. Not even close. Face it, your powerset needs a buff.
Frost is not 'subpar' for an AoE, if you cant easily fit at least 5 targets inside it, then im sorry, you aren't trying hard enough. It hitting less targets is balanced around that it does more damage then normal AoEs. *Hint you can increase the range of frost to expand the cone*
I like how its somehow 'my powerset', and you still don't understand what a power CLONE is, when they make a power that has the exact or very similar stats as another power. The only change ice melee would need, is to make GIS an actual hard hitting power. -
Quote:Im sorry, did footstomp somehow become footstomp + rage? And then you discount that Ice also has Frost, which does more damage then frozen aura.Originally Posted by Auroxis
How is Frozen Aura a Foot Stomp clone? It has less damage(no rage), less radius and no KD. The only redeeming thing about it is that you can slot a sandman heal proc in it.
/Ice is all about survivability. With IO's, it's mostly overkill. Dark definitely doesn't need the mitigation from /Ice.
I said Frozen aura is a footstomp clone which it is in every shape and form, besides damage type, secondary effect and radius, and I would bet all my inf that the devs would reduce Footstomp's radius if they could get away with it or get around to it. Frozen Aura is what footstomp WOULD have been if it was developed during the current administration.
If GIS wasn't so terrible, ice melee would not have that bad rap for damage that it does. Luckily Frozen Touch is a very nice attack along with being a hold.
And you also ignore that frozen aura is pure ice damage, which most NPC targets have no resistance to. -
Quote:Unless you are just fighting high level bosses, that is completely false, Ice melee has very good AoE damage and can easily kill mobs and mobs of minions and LTs. If having a footstomp clone for an AoE isn't enough along with all of Ice melees other powers. then nothing is enough.Originally Posted by RemusShepherd
I have a Dark/Ice tank, and she is a mitigation machine. With an area-effect stun, fear, knockdown, sleep, and to-hit-debuffs, and a single-target hold, she can nullify almost anything. That's without *any* ancillary pool, since she chose to get tough+weave instead.
I would not, however, recommend soloing a DA/Ice. The endurance requirements are harsh at early levels. Even at max level her damage is not very good, and she relies on the damage aura to do most of the work.
Frost breath is one of the best damage-dealing powers in the ice set, and you'll regret not taking it. But it may not be strictly necessary.
Its ST damage is pretty terrible tho. Which is why soul mastery is an amazing powerpick for ice melee. gloom ftw. -
For Bot and Trap MMs, an AoE immoblize is godly for keeping everything inside your aoes, burning patches and trap powers. Slow patches like caltrops do help, but the enemies will sooner or later run out, especially if they are higher level then you.
For shields, Scorp if you are not in a softcapped build, resistance if you are.
IN sort, Mace mastery if you want the defense, Mu mastery if you want the res shield. -
Quote:!!! Its already beginning!Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
So Black Pebble really does exist? Huh...
Hey, David, can you badger your coworkers into posting that I-19 teaser on your YouTube channel? While I really do appreciate all the folks that filmed the panel and shared it, a nice high quality version would be tres spiffy. Please?
Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite
*Goes into Video watch alert*
*Watches intently*
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Quote:Apparently, end game system + we recommend the alpha slot for doing the end game TFs = You must grind out and farm to hell and back in order to obtain it.Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Then don't do that.
Right... because that's all there is to do in the game. -
Quote:TF has just about garbage DPA, and the rest of the set is just about average, the only standout power is ET and its still slow, and one power doesn't an attack chain make.Originally Posted by Arbegla
How is TF and ET rather low compared to many other stalker sets?
Even with the ET nerf, its been proven time and time again that energy melee is still pretty high on the single target damage department. Granted, it has next to 0 AoEs, and its not #1 on single target, but its still pretty high.
Plus, with the barrage change, barrage is actually fairly useful on a stalker, especially when it crits. -
Quote:Well there was that guy just down a couple channels that said something he shouldn't have and we haven't heard from him again! Even people that know the person!...Originally Posted by Nethergoat
Really?
When did they issue MP5's to the mods and start 'disappearing' troublesome posters?
We shouldn't speak of such things. That's how people disappear.