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Quote:I wonder if it'll censor *****.Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
The wierdest thing? Apparently calling it a great load of bollocks doesn't get filtered =S
Yeah, it censors *****. So much for using French profanity
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From the title, I thought this was about a new Lost ride at Disneyland. Something that would take a long time to get through, and leave you completely confused when you left.
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Author Harry Stephen Keeler has a lot of great titles, such as:
The Skull of the Waltzing Clown
I killed Lincoln at 10:13!
The Case of the Barking Clock
Finger! Finger!
The Riddle of the Traveling Skull
The Man Who Changed his Skin
One of these days I'll have to see if I can find some of these, to see if the stories are as good as the titles. Although, according to Futurama writer Ken Keeler (no relation) almost no one really likes HSK's works, including the members of his fan club. -
Quote:Michael Flatley is the true power behind Praetoria! I KNEW IT!!!Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
I've always been amused with the sign that says "Stop The Lord Of Dance"
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McCoy was the only character I thought JJTrek managed to get right. Other than the ham-fisted explanation for his Bones nickname (which I always thought was short for 'sawbones,' a slang term for doctor/surgeon), I loved him. He was just the right amount of crotchety and compassionate.
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Quote:I know (I think it was the only time Sulu was ever shirtless). The crew got drunk on contagious water and started acting crazy, with Sulu running around babbling about fighting Cardinal Richelieu and waiving his foil around. Then it never came up again. It was more or less a minor part of the Sulu character, and there wasn't really any indication that fencing was more than a hobby for him. Yeah, alternate universe and all that, but still I have trouble believing that sport sword fighting could be used in actual combat.Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
The sword fighting bit though is a gag/reference to TOS where when something (a disease? I forget) made the crew go crazy and Sulu was fencing around the ship. In fact, the real reason why the character was doing that on the show was because George Takei padded his resume by saying he could fence (he really couldn't) and the writers saw that and wrote it in. It was part of the show.
So I would say the fencing bit in the movie is an attempt to take a not so serious, throwaway thing from the show and flesh it out and make it more serious, relevant, and useful.
Also, I always figured that they made Sulu a fencer because Takei didn't want the character to be shoehorned into being a stereotypical Japanese karate guy. -
Quote:True, Chekov and Scotty were never the most developed characters. But they still had more depth than the "nuclear wessels" and "I know this ship like the back o' me hand *smack into pipe*" essences that JJTrek boiled them down to.Originally Posted by Arcanaville
No argument there. On the other hand, Chekov and Scotty are not what I would consider to be well-developed in the TOS movies either. In many of them they become parodies of themselves; in IV particularly, even though that is seen as an otherwise good movie (worse in V, but I don't think we're going to be using that as an example of anything anywhere).
I think the main problem there isn't Abrams, but the original script, and the problem with the original script is that we really don't know those characters well enough to easily extrapolate their past selves, so Orci and Kurtzman didn't have anywhere interesting to go. Spock we probably can extrapolate the best, even moreso than Kirk, and Spock shows up very strongly in the film. Kirk less so, but we can still see the potential for the naturally brash and rebellious Kirk to get out of hand without a father to look up to, and perhaps resenting Star Fleet for taking his father away from him (although I believe the script goes too far there, particularly in the aforementioned Kobayashi Maru). But then we get to McCoy, who we know basically nothing about his past (or rather, most people even most fans don't know much) except he seems to have had a very long friendship with Kirk. Sulu and Chekov we know even less, and Scotty's best known for saying the line "its green" and being the TOS equivalent of a geek. Not much to work with there.
In any case, I think if there's someone to blame for Scotty being the Chris Knight of Star Trek, Chekov being Doogie Houser: Navigator, and Sulu having trouble with the parking brake, its probably more Orci and Kurtzman than Abrams.
As for Sulu, I took more issue with him being a god of sword fighting because of his fencing training than I did with the parking break gag. He's a green officer who is expected to fly a sparkling new ship-of-the-line into an emergency situation, so he's bound to get nervous and forget a detail or two. -
Quote:With Magnum's daughter taking over the family Private Investigator/mooching friend business?Originally Posted by Ice_Wall
Honestly, I've been really surprised there hasn't been a TV remake or a Movie remake of Magnum PI. Given how popular the show was at the time, and the fact that they've tried to remake everything under the sun, including Knight Rider, a show of the same era, I'm surprised this never came up as a remake or something.
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Quote:And then he gets to Chekov and Scotty...Originally Posted by Arcanaville
He's not the strongest character director. But I think that's not a fair assessment of his work on Trek. Of course that is somewhat subjective, but I think his treatment particularly of Spock is not a caricature: its very well fleshed out. Its a little more superficial in the case of Kirk, but then again Kirk was pretty superficial in most of TOS as well. He was more of an archetype than a three-dimensional character except for a few very noteworthy episodes.
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Good stuff. My favorite Batmobile is the one from the '92 animated series. I think it's recognizably a Batmobile without being outlandishly over the top. Plus it's got that art deco aesthetic that I love.
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Quote:It's more memorable, but I suspect it has to do with Trekkies being disappointed by how Kirk died rather than how poignant the scene was.Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Which reminds me: iconic moments are a metric, but not the best or only metric to judge a movie. Generations probably has a better one than any moment in The Voyage Home with Kirk's "it was... fun" scene. People remember that one.
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Quote:I'm not talking about small things like why Kirk was such a ****** or why Scotty was stationed at the a** end of nowhere (both of which were actually explained in the movie). I'm talking about stuff like why Nero's mining ship was as big as a space station and had more firepower than an entire fleet, or what was he doing between his encounter with the Kelvin and the emergence of Spock, or what the explanation for the changes to Federation technology was (in universe, I mean, I'm perfectly aware of the real life reasons). Those things should've been explained in the movie, but they weren't.Originally Posted by Alpha-One
Well, see the Romulans didn't send anyone. Nero left on his own to seek revenge upon Spock for failing to save Romulus. This is explained in STO of all places. Just because the movie doesn't explain it doesn't make it an omission. They don't go on explaining warp theory or matter teleportation either, yet we easily accept those as fact. Books, comics, web comics and games are a perfectly acceptable way to expand upon a 90min movie intended to entertain for 90min, not educate viewers in the minute details of its universe.
Coming up next: Star Trek: The Next Generation: Technical Manual: The Movie Quintology! (STTNGTMTMQ for short)
The Kirk-Khan history isn't fully explained, but there was still a (very) brief summary of what happened between them. You don't get that in JJTrek. There's not even an acknowledgment that Nero and Spock have a relationship beyond Nero's "You didn't do enough to save my planet," tantrums, even though a deeper relationship is supposed to exist.Quote:Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Some perhaps, but a lot is debatable as to whether it should have been self-contained. WoK doesn't really explain who Khan is or why he's on Ceti Alpha Five. It doesn't explain the connection of his wife to Kirk, or how a 20th century person is running around in the twenty third century. We're assumed to know. -
Quote:It's not the inconsistencies that bother me so much as the glaring omissions. Things that should've been explained in the movie were left to web comics, which is, IMO, just bad story telling.Originally Posted by Alpha-One
Is it that hard to accept that the JJTrek universe is a different one from the "main" universe we've come to know and love? And we've only had one 90min glimpse into that universe. How about we wait for JJtrek #2 before calling him on inconsistencies in his own universe?
And then there's the stupidity of the Romulans in general and Nero in particular. Seriously, the best the Romulans can do is send a whiny miner to avenge Romulus' destruction? Yeah, the planet blew up, but they still have a freaking military with warships commanded by people who actually have an understanding of tactics and strategy. But rather then send any of those people, they send an emotionally compromised miner whose idea of tactics is to just shoot things until they blow up and throw tantrums every time his dead family comes up in conversation. -
Quote:The time cops themselves were an incredibly bad creation. One could very well ask why they weren't around for every other time travel incident prior to Voyager's escapades in the Delta Quadrant.Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
What about the time cops? How many episodes have we seen people from the future coming back in time to maintain the timeline? I guess what happened in JJtrek didn't affect the future.
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Quote:Will Ferrel as Commander John J. Adams, of course.Originally Posted by Golden_Ace
Who's he going to fight?
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Hey, if it gets more men to pee in the urinal, I'm all for it.
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Quote:You compounded it! You can't uncompound it!Originally Posted by je_saist
Tales of Interest...
heh. That sounds like something Namco would do if they made an RPG based on Banking.
TALES!
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Quote:My first thought was that they should make it a story in one of the Tales of Interest episodes.Originally Posted by je_saist
... anybody else struck with the horrible thought that if Michael Bay actually saw that... it would happen...
You watched it!!! You can't unwatch it!!! Stay tuned for the next...
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Quote:Perhaps some sort of death clock!Originally Posted by Scythus
And what is the obvious?
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And humanity can bite his shiny metal a**!
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Quote:Business as usual.Originally Posted by Veritech
Right... so what was this thread all about?
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Quote:No, it wasn't. As I said in my post, the engine is more efficient in ways that have nothing to do with fuel economy.Originally Posted by Durakken
It is said somewhere in one of the things that discuss the core that it is better than even a core of that size even, but we can't talk about it, even though we are allowed to according to what was said of the rules, but apparently not according to dif mods. Whatever.
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Quote:...what? According to who? No one ever said that. The engine allows the ship to run at FTL faster than most ships, but that has to do with the build-up of an electro-static charge in the core that doesn't have to be discharged as often as it does in ships the same size with smaller cores.Originally Posted by Durakken
v.v
#1. Yes, the drive was over sized, but...
#2. The drive was also used it's fuel more efficiently than a drive of similar size.
Yes, assuming you can generate a field big enough to encompass a larger ship then yes, both ships would have the same mass. But there are a few things that you seem to be forgetting or ignoring. First, no one ever said how much of that particular substance is required to generate fields of varying sizes. Second, no one ever said how much electrical energy is required to generate fields of varying sizes. For all you know, larger ships with more mass require larger engines because they need more energy to generate larger fields using more of that particular substance in order to propel the ship at faster than light speeds.Quote:#3. While it is the case that we have not seen other ships and such. We know what it does. You could hypothetical get the mass of the two ships to be exactly the same regardless of its actual weight/size and as such they could use the exact same engines to reach the same speeds. -
Quote:You seriously think that Arcana's attempt to explain why you're wrong by using your flawed analogy means that she only cares about volume in relation to complexity? Seriously?Originally Posted by Durakken
Arcanaville implied it was Volume and Galadiman said it was based on the number of intrinsic parts in a functioning system. Obviously, this ends the conversation with Aracanaville because the biggest thing to her is the most complex as it has the most volume.
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Quote:According to what? No one in that universe ever said that a frigate operates with the same engine as a carrier. In fact, we only see the engine of one ship, and it's an engine that was deliberately made much larger than it needed to be to move a ship of that size, which was done at a HUGE cost in materials. They've never shown the engines of other ships, not yet anyway. So how do you know that every ship in that galaxy uses the same sized engine?Originally Posted by Durakken
Do you not realize we're talking about in a reality where this takes place in space and they have stuff that makes it so that a battleship and a destroyer can literally work on the same engines and achieve the same speeds. The only difference they have in terms of systems and such is the size/advanceness of a single part?