Lord_Nightblade
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I loved the old Trek fight music in WH13. I wonder if they wrote the episode just so they could have an excuse to play it.
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I just picture this guy being told that it was illegal for him to do something, and he responded, "Oh yeah?! Well I'll build my own country! With blackjack! And hookers!"
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Quote:They'll only hand out the Soylent Green when the Soylent Brown supplies run low.Originally Posted by 2short2care
That's when they start handing out the Soylent Green.
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Quote:Yeah, but you can't even tell that it's one of those plus size mannequins.Originally Posted by Encharger
Pfft, it's on a mannequin!
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Quote:Oh it's classics you want, is it?Originally Posted by Niklarus
What, no Chuck Berry yet?
"No Particular Place to Go" is the best for driving. Not to mention "Johnny B. Goode."
"Fun Fun Fun" by the Beach Boys too.
Some appreciation for the real classics, please.
Little Deuce Coupe Beach Boys
Little GTO Ronnie & the Daytonas
Little Old Lady from Pasadena Jan and Dean
Dead Man's Curve Jan and Dean
409 Beach Boys
I get Around Beach Boys
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Can't Turn You Loose. Just, you know, avoid malls.
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Quote:Really? The whales bother you more than God needing a starship?Originally Posted by Tenzhi
I hope not. I hate that movie more than any of the Star Trek movies.
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Quote:There's some important background information relating to Spock and Nero's relationship, which makes the whole vengeance thing make a bit more sense, that wasn't included in the movie. Nero was the guy who discovered the Hobus supernova, and he tried to work with Spock to come up with a solution to save Romulus. Note: this was after the Romulan Senate decided to ignore Spock's warnings about how dangerous the nova was, and decided to sit around with their thumbs up their *****. And then when Spock failed to convince the Vulcans to help and Romulus blew up, Nero blamed Spock for the death of his wife and unborn child. So that's where the whole revenge thing comes into play.Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
In addition to that gaping plot hole, did anyone else find it weird that the Romulans that got pushed back in time were so mad at the Vulcans? I mean, the Vulcans were coming to save them. They might have been a bit late, but they were still trying. It's not their fault that the star went supernova.
If my entire civilization had been destroyed by a supernova, and I had gotten thrown back in time, my first priority wouldn't be to take vengeance on the people who were trying to help me. It probably would've been to go and warn my civilization, or maybe try to work on something that could save them.
Still, given that the Romulans in this timeline should be at least semi-aware of their impending doom, having them be a little bit more aggressive as they try to find places that will be safe might not be a bad plot line.
A smarter man would've gotten his wife to safety first, and then worked on saving his planet. But Nero's obviously not that smart. -
Quote:That's not bad, but it seems like something more suited to a TV series than movies. IMO, the payoff would take too long for movies.Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
Interesting thing is, how old the actor is isn't relevant if they write the right story. Khan is in suspended animation. Thaw him out earlier and he's older by the time Kirk is captain of the Enterprise.
If we accept the premise of the JJ-verse trek, the timeline divergence begins at the events around Kirk's birth, and they basically have his entire lifespan to monkey around in.
Just as a thought experiment (because I don't think they should use Khan) but let me posit how I'd do things:
Step 1- sign Javier Bardem to play Khan. A far more dangerous feeling and serious choice than Banderas.
Step 2- Khan and company are found several years earlier. I think it would be cool if they were found by Klingons and sent to a gulag world. Alternatively they could crash land alone on a more hospitable planet than Ceti Alpha turned out to be (what was originally a near miss is this time a crash landing).
Step 3- develop the nightmare scenario that almost happened on Earth and led to Khan's exile. The survivors/prisoners thrive and are in a state of perpetual war, either with each other or their captors.
Step 4- Starfleet gets intel that there are humans on a Klingon gulag world and the Enterprise is sent to help. The meat of the movie and the climax is the war and eventual rescue of Khan at the hands of Kirk. Have them clash, but have a much older and craftier Khan not do anything so preciptous as mutiny. The movie ends with Kirk and Khan as something approaching friends.
Step 5- Khan and his surviving cohort end up concealing their origins and spending the span between the 2nd and 3rd movie learning all about the modern Federation universe. From that point on, anything is possible. A 3rd movie could be an epic betrayal and in this universe, it's Kirk who ends up with the all consuming vendetta against Khan.
This is nearly appealing enough to me to want to see it happen. It's excellent juxtaposition and has the feel of telling a much more epic Kirk v Khan story than any single movie could.
Personally, I would settle for a throw away line in a Kirk/Spock conversation. Like they found the debris of the Bottany Bay in an asteroid field or something and it looked like it was thrown wildly off course by all of the black hole shenanigans from the last movie. -
As long as they wrap up the Beverly/Consortium thread, I'll probably be happy. I've wanted closure on that since it was dropped after the second season. Also, I want to know what happened to Callie Curie (who briefly dated Jack then disappeared) and Spencer Martin (who was Henry's assistant and then disappeared).
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Quote:Originally Posted by ChaosAngelGeno
I just assumed that they rebooted Star Trek to undo the damage that Scott Bakula did with Enterprise.
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Quote:No contest, I'd much rather see an original story for the next movie. They've gone through all this trouble to set up a new universe to breathe new life into the franchise and introduce Star Trek to a new generation, so why would they go back and rehash the old stories? I mean, if I want to watch Khan in action, then I'm going to break out my DVDs and watch the original Space Seed or Wrath of Khan. I don't want to see some watered-down, Star-Warsey remake, I want the real thing. It'd be much better if they came up with a new story to tell rather than try to shoehorn one of the old ones into a remake.Originally Posted by Irish Fury
Article.
I am glad to see they won't be using the Borg, but I am still undecided on whether or not I want to see this new timeline take on Khan's story. Could be interesting, but part of me wants to see an original story. What do you guys think?
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Quote:But it was such a cunning plan!Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
I blame baldrick.
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Quote:I wouldn't stop with a beer and a chat, I'd go out on a date with her. I'd take her to some nice, secluded place in the mountains for a romantic getaway in my luxury car fueled by fairy dust and dreams.Originally Posted by Kinrad
She is smart. She is pretty. She is nerdy (in the best way possible).
I (obviously) don't know her, but I always get the feeling that she is just a very down-to-earth kinda gal that you could have a beer with and talk about just about anything. -
Quote:Super curmudgeon.Originally Posted by 2short2care
I wonder what Artie's "special power" is, other then his appendix can grow back every few years.
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Quote:That would've added a whole level of funny to that joke, but no, it was just some random actor guy.Originally Posted by Rodoan
Ok, I caught the line, but not the face. Guess I need my eyes checked. Was that someone from Trek? It certainly felt like a cameo moment.
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Quote:Indeed. I'm curious whether Keller is going to end up being Neil's way out of the whole treasure situation. Neil and Mozzie could easily set him up with the bulk of the stolen loot, including the items on the manifest.Originally Posted by ShoNuff
Second, the treasure over plot is going in an interesting direction.
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Stupid Trekkies, crashing Civil War reenactments and pretending to be time travelers.
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Quote:It's not the greatest mask ever, but the general public will probably take it more seriously than they would a luchador mask.Originally Posted by DarkGob
I really don't like that mask.
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Quote:Wait, I thought the British used Reliant Robin-based shuttle technology. There was a documentary about it and everything.Originally Posted by Dr_MechanoEU
Perhaps for now the Americans will do like the British space program does, go to a nation with the ability go get into space and go.
"Look we want to go into space but we lack the actual ability to do so. What we'll do is loan you some scientists, pay you for the time and effort in exchange for letting some of our Astronauts hitch a ride."
Which is the arrangement we have at the moment IIRC, it costs substantially less than an actual space program but means we have to hitch rides on other peoples. -
Most of the public libraries don't have their copies circulating yet, so I haven't had a chance to read it. Took me six blasted months to get the last one, so it could be a while
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Looks like a big ol' pile of Meh to me.
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Saw the movie today and really enjoyed it (apart from the idiot who felt it necessary to clap for every action scene). I loved the fight choreography for Cap and his shield.
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Loved Eureka and Warehouse 13. I said it last week, but it bears repeating. Felicia Day is just so damn cute.
Loved seeing Rene Auberjonois come back. I'm used to seeing him as Odo, but seeing him in that really playful role is great. Spotted a minor case of Did Not Do the Research for the writers regarding how the street numbers in SLC work (mostly a nomenclature thing, especially with tourists/visitors), and now I can feel slightly superior to a group of people I've never met
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So it's not River Tam Beats Up Everyone? Dang.