Lord_Nightblade

If the Joker takes enough of an interest in you to ask you to join his crew, then you're probably dead either way. Say no, and he'll go out of his way to make life hell for you until you die. Say yes, and it's only a matter of time before he kills you on a whim. Your only hope is that Batman will catch you first.

I dunno. Seems to me that with a villain like the Ventriloquist, you at at least have a somewhat predictable, standard job. You'll be involved in the standard mafia activities, as opposed to mucking around with Lazarus pits or trying to pull off clever crimes so your boss can flaunt his intelligence.

Which is more or less typical criminal behavior. The kind of henchman who doesn't expect that sort of thing is probably the kind of henchman stupid enough to work for the Joker.

Yeah, once I knew the correct answer, the diagram became much more obvious. Not that I would be able to actually build a steam engine, or at least not one more complex than an aeolipile.

This. I would probably try it on and test it out a bit, and then proceed to do absolutely nothing with it. If it has flight capabilities, then maybe I'd bust it out whenever I wanted to travel somewhere. Otherwise, it would end up hanging in my closet.

9/10

I missed the engine diagram one.

Have to recast Morgan Primus anyway, considering Majel Barrett-Roddenbery is dead. Although they could always go the animated route, like the proposed Final Frontier series from a few years ago.

Makes me glad I don't attend UCLA. Having to put up with this moron and his inevitable juvenile boasting would simply be insufferable.

A what now?

I dunno. I figure it was just simpler for the writers to say she'd used up her regens. Maybe they'll elaborate later down the road, or they'll just leave it be and let the fans speculate.

Whatever the case, it's a moot point considering what eventually happened to River.

Eh, just spit-balling. I'm more inclined to believe that she sacrificed whatever mechanism allows her to regenerate.

Three seasons is a bit much for a beginning. Even in a show like TNG, which did run seven seasons, I would say that, at most, the beginning of the series was the first two seasons.

Also, 'assumed' =/= 'guaranteed', especially when a show's ratings dip as much as Enterprise's did in the first season and continue falling thereafter.

Spoilery stuff below.





Well yeah, but River isn't a full on Time Lord, she's Human+. So maybe there was a limit to the number of regenerations she had. Alternatively, they could've said she used up all of her regenerations as a simpler way of saying that she poured all of her regenerative energy (or however that works) into the Doctor, and now has none left and can no longer regenerate.

Convenient how you ignore that the studio requested that they do that.



No, they were not showing what might have happened. They were doing whatever they wanted and not worrying about the audience. If the audience didn't like it, the writers could simply reset the time travel stuff and pretend it never happened. It's not a clever trick, it's lazy. It meant that they didn't have to keep track of anything that was established in the earlier series.


And?


Do you even know what "attenuated" means? He was saying that the story was too thin and never really went anywhere, and it needed to be ended. The part you quote only says that he thinks it could've been ended in a way that was more nuanced, not that he thinks it should've been stretched out more.


Do you know what "beginning" means?

My reading comprehension is just fine, thanks. Nowhere on that page does it say that Braga wanted to keep going over a longer period of time. Braga says that the War was mandated by the studio, which wanted something more "futuristic" in the series, and that it probably would've worked better in a different series. Then you have Berman saying that the War gave him more or less a free hand to do whatever he wanted and then reset things like they never happened. Then Manny Coto saying he wanted the fourth season to be free of the time travel stuff. And finally John Billingsly saying, "I tended to concur on the broader point that the temporal time war never really got off the ground, the storytelling was too attenuated, and that it needed to die."
The Temporal Cold War was neverthe driving story behind Enterprise. It was a badly executed concept forced on the show by the networks that the writers either forgot or chose to ignore for most of the show's run.

What are you talking about? The Temporal Cold War was very clearly given a resolution by the boring first episode of the final season. The rest of that season had absolutely nothing to do with the TCW, and fans generally consider that season to be when Enterprise finally started getting good.

Memory Alpha: Temporal Cold War. Appearances: ENT(13)

Note that there are often gaps of ten episodes in which the war isn't mentioned in any way shape or form. When you're trying to do an overarching story like that, you don't go that long between plot relevant episodes. Yeah, you can do one or two filler episodes in between, but ten? Ten is a sign that the writers aren't trying very hard to keep the story going. And the Xindi arc was about the Xindi. It was only loosely connected to the Cold War

Oh, and you'll also note the parts where there are quotes from the show's creative staff saying that the Temporal Cold War was more or less forced on them by the network, which then forced the writers to resolve the War because it was not working due to how poorly developed it was.

Thanks for playing, buh-bye.

That is the definition of a bad story. You finish what you start. You don't create a setup and then switch your focus to something entirely different. And yeah, I don't know what Enterprise's writers were trying to build to with the TCW, but it's also clear from the hamfisted resolution that they didn't know either. It was a half-***** concept from the beginning, with a half-***** middle and a half-***** end.

Yes, you can get away from it. Only 13 out of 97 episodes were actually about the Temporal Cold War. It was clear that the writers forgot about the whole thing pretty easily, because it was never a consistent thread throughout the series.

They've done that. It's called Torchwood. It's not about the Doctor at all.

No, it wasn't done well at all. But you are right about trying to convince people. As I'm sure we all know.

To be (reluctantly) fair, Braga and Berman did make some good contributions to Star Trek. But they stayed at the series' helm too long and their ideas started getting...weird. And bad.

Dude, just stop. That's not what Arcana is saying at all. I don't know how you even interpreted that from her statements.

The fact of the matter is that Enterprise's Temporal Cold War plot line was a badly executed contrivance. It was there so the writers could do almost anything they wanted without having to worry about established continuity. It went nowhere until the Xindi arc came along, and even then it was an afterthought. And the resolution to the whole thing basically means that every single TCW episode was a waste of the audience's time, the equivalent of the whole thing having been Archer's dream after he fell asleep reading H.G. Wells.

Enterprise would've been much better focusing on Earth's early colonization/exploration efforts, relations with local pre-established space-faring species (Vulcans, Andorians, Tellarites, etc.), and the path toward the foundation of the Federation. Instead we got an on-again-off-again boring mess of time travel that was magicked out of the way when they couldn't think of ways to keep it going.