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Its a great game, run by a [censored] company, we might as well just get over it now.

All you ever going to get out of this lot is all's well (in the bigger picture) and we have big things to come soon.

Which they will no doubt be mumbling to themselves right up to the day it all goes pop.

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Although i14 sounds cool, I'd rather NC spend their budget a lot more on marketing and building the player base to say, an extra 100k players EU side? Or even better, just on Defiant?

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I think the opposite of that, they missed the boat for new players about 3 years ago, i think they want to try keeping what they got with some content.

Content made by devs, not players.

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Because bearing in mind I have tried to put forward why I think the game has never hit its potential, and you lot have constantly knocked my theories and suggestions,then clearly the game should be doing fab business right now.

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That had a hell of a lot more to do with the WAY you said it rather than what you were actually saying. The message was drowned out by the arrogant attitude.

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Lets get ready to RUUUUUUUUUUMBLE!!!

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Naaah that comment was fine. Besides I dont think it's appropriate to flame war on this particular thread.
People are losing their jobs.

Mind you, the risk of a ban has just decreased...

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Bahhh bans, minor casualty of war

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Because bearing in mind I have tried to put forward why I think the game has never hit its potential, and you lot have constantly knocked my theories and suggestions,then clearly the game should be doing fab business right now.

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That had a hell of a lot more to do with the WAY you said it rather than what you were actually saying. The message was drowned out by the arrogant attitude.

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Lets get ready to RUUUUUUUUUUMBLE!!!

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So, what's the busiest US server? I need to make travel plans.

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Freedom.

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I think you have to keep in mind that the number of people on the Euro boards, and therefore even knows this is going on, is pretty dirisable. And the number miffed by lack of feedback is even less than that. So I dont think they consider us to be a priority.


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By now i would think everyone thats logged on the game, not just these forums knows.

And if they want to hang on to these customers, they want to start making them a priority.

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Out of curiosity (inspired by the lovely person above me) should we all create Marvel/DC inspired characters just to see if we can get away with it or would that just be a mean a spiteful act?

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I'd personally call it mean and spiteful, but it DOES raise one question. Do we actually HAVE any GM's at the moment? Are petitions being ignored if so, or passed automatically to the US GM's already?

Are we alone in the dark?

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The CS team (GM's) remain, and they're working through their tickets as normal.

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Tell me something, do you think this is being handled well?

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Surely if the media doomsaying caused some people to alter their spending habits it could have lead to or exacerbated the recession.

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This.

The media caused the credit crunch, which caused the recession.

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lol, if that's not the definition of naive I don't know what is. I admit the media didn't help matters but to blame them entirely is just narrow-minded.

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It's certainly an oversimplificion, but I'n my job it's something I have to do a lot.

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Oversimplification? You mean you took out all the other people responsible and just blamed the media.

It's like saying the problems in Brighton are the fault of the people starting the server merge threads.

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Who actually didnt deserve the hard time they got.

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Locking this thread until we get a redname response on the situation

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An optimistic mockmod aren't you? Surely the boards get closed before a redname responds.

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If they do say that then they'll lose more players than if they put time/effort into doing some sort of transfer imo.

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As has been noted many times, this wasn't the result of a plan scribbled on the back of a [censored] packet after one-too-many tequillas on Monday night. If they are going to put time/effort into a plan then they should have done it already.

Whilst they may still (superficially at least) be looking at their staff I'd be surprised if the positions/locations that are in flux will have any great impact on what they have planned for the players. i.e. if they've decided that they're going to transfer us then they'll transfer us whether some staff from Brighton relocate to the US or not.

Given that they've planned this reorganisation in advance, they must have also planned for what they are going to do with us. It doesn't matter where it falls on the scale from no change to we just don't care - go away ex-customers - they'll have planned it. As such, they should have been able to give (at least preliminery) information to us PDQ.

Given that they've been silent and letting the bad-feelings/thoughts prosper it seems pretty clear that NC doesn't really give a hoot about us - which doen't bode well.

BTW - do you think that they'd hold off telling us relatively good news?

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Its been a long time since this company gave a flying [censored] about the EU part of CoX, all this silence is doing is carrying on what they always do when something isnt going well.

They stop talking about it.

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Surely if the media doomsaying caused some people to alter their spending habits it could have lead to or exacerbated the recession.

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This.

The media caused the credit crunch, which caused the recession.

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Another classic.

Just knowing you have them is a sort of comfort blanket even if you dont play them.

I dont even fancy the prospect of my US account even with 18 months vets and a couple of i1 or i2 whatever they are level 50s to be honest

Its all over for me without me Smurfs

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oooo ooooo ooooo i call dibs on being temp mod for next few days!!!

*gets ban stick out*

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That's [u]not[u] what mods use as a ban stick! Put it away and do your flies up!

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Can we notify Damz to ban himself for making the banstick all sticky?

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ATTENTION ATTENTION .... sticky wicket spotted.... ATTENTION ATTENTION....

Rumours are rife in game, i logged on for 10 minutes last night and had about 5 tells.

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I'm in the "recession, what recession, it's mostly made up by the media" bandwagon myself, as I have yet to be affected in any way shape or form.


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Then you are blind, it hasnt effected me in way except its fab news for my business, but it quite obviously is real.

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What does your business do? Few industries flourish in a recession, liquidators/administrators and corporate lawyers are the only two that spring to mind for me.

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Diamonds, we consult on the cutting of them and sales.

In times of prosperity cut stones sell well retail, in times like this uncut stones sell well to corporations and investors.

The latter being better for us than the former.

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a ban for saying best of luck...seems a little harsh...

very well then...we'll go with the Damz option of things then...

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I was being sarcastic but i was threatened with a ban for wasting their time when i sent a petition asking if they could shorten my Smurf chars trench coat cos it was dragging once

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Well in that case, someone send a petition ingame, just something simple like saying "we know you guys are going to be leaving for the US or otherwise, just like to say best of luck in your future endevours and come say hi if you're ingame.."

See if you get a response...or turn on superspeed in a council base map and run around, you're bound to get stuck behind a piece of scenery sooner or later and then ticket.

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For gods sake dont do that or you will be threatened with a ban for wasting their time lol

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I'm in the "recession, what recession, it's mostly made up by the media" bandwagon myself, as I have yet to be affected in any way shape or form.


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Then you are blind, it hasnt effected me in way except its fab news for my business, but it quite obviously is real.

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i expect theve lost more than 7500 subs

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Despite the fact that subs have been trending upwards since I13 came out...

Being made redundant doesn't turn GR into a liar now, does it?

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Depends how do you interpret "trending"

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the EU law of data transfer is gonna be the main problem and sticky area, but if they do an application where u can claim what u have (that abides with the Data Protection Act) and then they check it i see no real problem as this really cant be easily abused becoz of credit checks etc (whihc are done if ur on auto renew (not sure if the last bit falls foul of the DPA but its a suggestion none the less if it ges [censored] up)

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What credit check are you talking about?

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If there is no money in the account then the payment is rejected thats what i meant that sorta cedit check (not a is he allowed to get a contracted phone or load credit check) sorry for being vauge

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Ah sorry with you now, i thought you had uncovered some subversive credit check then

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the EU law of data transfer is gonna be the main problem and sticky area, but if they do an application where u can claim what u have (that abides with the Data Protection Act) and then they check it i see no real problem as this really cant be easily abused becoz of credit checks etc (whihc are done if ur on auto renew (not sure if the last bit falls foul of the DPA but its a suggestion none the less if it ges [censored] up)

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What credit check are you talking about?

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And I would be very much surprised if it was an active number of subscibers that pushed it to 2000. Hell I would be gob smacked if it was 1500

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They probably have more active subs than active players, but yea i dont think theres that many.

I just hope its too many for them to just bin and [censored] us off with a new US account, rather than transfer us.

Edit: Extremus in there very fast

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emmm, where are people getting the less lag on us servers idea from ?

the servers are in the us ==> if you are in europe you have to do more hops through more internet nodes to reach them, each hop == lag ==> us servers means more lag and not less.

doesnt make one bit of difference what bandwidth they have on their side of the atlantic or if they have a fibre mpls piped directly through their ISP and into a load balancing box. transatlantic traffic, especially that used for streaming or online gaming, will have a noticeable time delay (at least more often than a locally - relatively speaking - hosted server). Why else do you think large online entities start server farms in foreign hosting providers and ISPs in the first place ?


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For mainland Europe that is true, but that's NOT true for the UK. We have far better links to the US than we do to mainland Europe, and having played on the US servers myself, I can guarantee you, there's less lag from here to there than from here to Hamburg.

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not sure I agree with that.(not saying you are wrong, but I'd have to see it to agree with it) from working in an ISP and providing hosting to american companies that want a gateway to europe, local regional hosting beats trans oceanic every time.

granted, its been getting better all the while (I used to do netwrok planning for SAP systems international customers and satellite uplinks and isdn bandwidth calculations were a nightmare) but i still dont think uk to usa can have less latency than uk to germany (not line speed, but latency, though I would argue line speed as well).

must see if i can dig up the server ips and run a test to check this out.

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Every one of the dozen or so people i personally played with from the UK on US servers had less lag there than in the EU game.

Also most of the people iv seen post here or talked to had the same experience.

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let all u sad doom saying idiots speak ur mind

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Except all the sad doom saying idiots have actually been right you mean?

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not really considering u lot said merits were doom.

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No no, get it right, i said merits were not going to make much odds either way.

And what thats got to do with the EU section of this company not being in great shape is beyond me.

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Because this company has always sucked at keeping people informed.

Everything is and always has been a big secret, from the trivial to important things like this, its like blood out of a stone. Always a "soon" , another carrot dangled or just silence.

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Hang on the hissy fit power pick police have arrived.... it's ok officer i, i have taken stamina.

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let all u sad doom saying idiots speak ur mind

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Except all the sad doom saying idiots have actually been right you mean?