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The only PvP I do is the occasional evening in Siren's ... occasionally you'll come across a group of people 1vs1. I generally leave them alone unless I'm not aware it is a 1v1 e.g.there was one occasion where I zip round a corner into a mob of about 10 heroes/villains - I dive straight in only to then notice only two of them are actually doing something. I wasn't the only person to make that mistake as the regen scrapper chasing me piled in and did exactly the same... they hadn't announced it (although the only way to make sure everyone hears it is to spam broadcast every minute, which brings its own problems in terms of abuse or people taking it as an invtie to grief intentionally).

I think so long as everyone remembers that occasionally snarl ups like this happen, it can be ok.

Cybercel posted a link in this thread.

take it, if only for use against Longbow spec-ops.

Worth a power pick just for that.

Kinetic is a great secondary. A little tricky to play effectively with energy (your primary knocks them away, your secondary needs them in close to work).

There should be a number of guides available. You may also be able to get away with just hover - 3 slot for speed and slot up siphon speed as well... one of the nice things about kinetics.

I think it is more perception than reality. I could be wrong of course - but I have a corruptor and a defender both at 27 and they both level at about the same speed (although the solo/team ratios are slightly different). Plus the hours of elapsed play on them are pretty near identical.

hmmm... time to start levelling up my /kin defender again (who will have more single target holds by 50 than my controller. How messed up is that?)

I also like the fact that it seems everyone is involved ... might stop some of the usual (and justified) complaints from the tank/scrappers...

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No need to get nasty and tell me to "get a grip," this is a discussion about a build, not a flamewar.

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well, technically, since you're discussing the relative merits of flame breath vs flares ....

/ducks

wait till you get to transference + fulcrum shift + pet brute

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Personally I duo with a /kin corruptor and with 3 SO slotted stamina and his buffs I have LOADS of endurance.

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If you find a kin corruptor, nail them to your side.

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However before lvl 20 I had major problems and tbh I'm not sure how you can avoid that.

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below 10 don't run any shields and die occasionally.

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SJ is a good choice as you'll want Acrobatics from that pool for knockback protection.

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I currently have only one SO in Acrobatics and I find if I turn it off until people start putting me on my [censored], I don't have any endurance issues (1 End reduc in all shields, 2 in CoF). Acro will probably get another end reduc if I can spare it.

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well, i can honestly say i use aggro to build fury. tbh,

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Depends. Solo I do use aggro to generate fury. At low levels, on large teams where you're the only melee type ... the only thing moving faster than your fury bar is your health bar...

I'm fine with my own aggro. I can even handle 2 or 3 others aggro for a while if I need to... another 7? not just yet

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Eh, I built my Fire/Kin for PvP from the ground up - some levels have been tricky as a result, but it's been fairly rapid progress since I stuck SOs in a few strategic slots...

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It's also helped you that you've had a couple of brutes in the SG to SK you up on a regular basis for Speed Boost.


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WHERE SPEED BOOST MONKEH GONE? GENERICVILLAIN SAD

The one problem I've found with fire/dark is that the odd fire resistant mob will give you truly horrific times solo. I'd pick up Air Sup just for that (well ok, and some other stuff).

Ice/Kin FTW! Although I can appreciate you may want to lay off the ice for a bit ... (still hoping for Ice/Storm at some point...)

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Also, endurance is more of an issue for some builds than others. Dark Armour for instance drains a lot of endurance.

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Bingo. I have an EM/DA and I leave the 2 big hitters (TF +ET) out of the attack chain unless there's a spec-ops or equivalent OR I'm pounding on a boss. Only TF is left out for endurance reasons but using that whenever it is available is a fury killer, because I end up having to rest to recover in missions (which realy slows things down). Low end attacks all the way up to the boss, full head of steam and TF + ET = mission complete.

EDIT:- plus at low level, relying on aggro to generate fury also gets you killed repeatedly. I know we're brutes and all, but not in a good way...

I probably will update that guide sometime soon (if I can stop watching the 'Internet is for ..' link someone sent out earlier

All I meant was that I spend more time messing about in PvP or badge hunting, so I don't find AoE holds all that useful. Given that I've only got one respec left, I'll probably just respec into a Hami-Raid build, where blind + choking cloud is really all you need. I'll probably shoehorn EMP into the build, just because I couldn't imagine giving it up

Nice guide.

I have a 50 Ill/Rad and she does ok ...
I'd suggest a /regen scrapper or mind/storm if you want something that seems to cause people most grief.

So, Eressos, do us people exist?

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thats a mazing news.

A question if you please? Is there any chance that for the duration of aim and BU that if u have apet like voltaic sentinel out, it will be buffed, blizzard is intangible but soon to be buffable, why not VS? also PB works when casting buffs like RA, so maybe Aim/BU -> VS, or just as i said before wheere it feeds off your buff?

If it were the case that VS were to become tangible/buff/debuffable i would rather it was left, it alone is enough to own a defender who can't heal even if u are busy being held/debuffed/tickled to death

Plight

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Quoted for truth. (I have to say I never take VS as I've always found it disappointing - has it changed recently)

Hmm. really must get round to updating that guide for ED/I6..

One thing I've found is that you don't really need 2 AoE holds after the duration/timing reductions. Or rather, AoE holds aren't as useful as other powers so you can get by with just the one.

I'm even thinking of taking choking cloud and six slotting it as *gasp* it is relatively much more useful now.

Of course, I'm at 50 and thinking of hami raids etc. ...

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So does CoV suffer the "City of Blasters" syndrome that CoH apparently used to have way back at Issue 1? And if so do you think Mr Nerf Bat cometh for us?

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Not for the reason outlined. You've been able to do exactly the same thing in COH with all defender teams for a while...

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I'd be surprised if your Ice/Kin couldn't down a Regen Scrapper, Seri - with a breakfree or two, anyway.

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Unfortunately, the Regen scrappers can get them too, although most think they don't need them ... except hobo

TOTAL PWNAGE!!!!!


Granted, you pwned me, but some people may not read this far.
Well played and good luck.

and my theory that my controller lost because I was more used to playing my Brute, well that theory didn't work either.

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Well going by the people that are interested we may be even able to have a fareware mass brawl!

Team A will consist of Chives
Team B will consist of everyone else.

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It's so crazy it just might work.

Oh and I'll happily Exemp for anyone who wants to tusle but you get no credit if you beat me since I'm very 50 dependant.

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Count me in for both the tussle AND the 1 on 1 with LP.
Hope to see you there and sorry to see you go.

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I went for that, then to Hammi-O's, and then to hosptials

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I never made it past the first stage. Too much
gizoogle methinks.

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If you're lucky enough to team with a /Kinetics Corruptor with 3-slotted (EndMod) Speed Boost every single second of your gametime, ignore this, and get three-slotted Hasten on your Ice/Dark.

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Fixed.

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Oi, SB monkeh. Less chat, more SB (pounds floor angrily while huffing and gasping for breath)

You don't need them, but tough can be quite nice. I personally wouldn't bother with weave.

I went with Cloak of Fear/Air Sup./TP Foe in preference and am loving it. Power Gamers (I think) take boxing + tough.