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*shrugs* If you know Storm Summoning, then you'd know the only real buff it needs is for Lightning Storm to have longer range/perception. Tweek its AI to target and attack the same foe up to 60-80ft away and have it attack anything regardless of the summoner's status (that is, it shouldn't care if I'm around the corner or not being attacked with no foes near me, it should just be tossing out bolts constantly on anything within LoS 60ft or more away).



Nowhere near as safe though...for the caster, that is. Don't give a flip about the team...they got their own capped defense for a reason. But if your Cold Dom is dead? You're not going to be effective. Conversely, Storm practically has anti-melee armor, control out the wazoo and pets to watch its back...

Got 2 IO'd builds on mine, one that keeps hurricane up and foes debuffed and immobilized and one that doesn't run hurricane but instead Oppressive Gloom + Thunder Clap for teams that don't need repel...so either a Tanker or a Controller (either with scourging Rain of Fire + Reactive/Spectral). Not a GM soloer but there's few enemy groups that can actually *do* anything to her

Definitely think this will be in the new boosters. Really nice for characters that you don't play often or solo so they can either pick up rare recipes, convert them into alignment merits or get some enhancement converters to make some coin that way.

And Windfalls...but I think the devs are looking into things that may replace these in this pack. Trying to think what they might offer but am drawing a blank. Besides the Performance Amplifiers, it might be possible those will be something put in there instead: Defense Amplifier, Offense Amplifier and Survival Amplifier.

I'm actually hoping they nix this one. Not that I don't like getting these, but I felt I was getting more of these than the inspirations...which I'd have preferred.

If they put the Super Inspirations in there, they'd probably be rarer since they're sellable. I wouldn't mind the devs creating Auxiliary Inspirations:

-Tenacity = 200%/350%/500% regen boost + res to -regen for 30/45/60 seconds
-Zealous = 150%/200%/300% recovery boost + res to endurance drain/-recovery for 45/60/75 seconds.
-Imperishable = 1/2/3 levels of absorb for up to 15/25/35 seconds (or until you absorb the alloted amount of damage) + 1/2/3 points of protection vs hold, sleep, stun, knockback, confuse, immobilize for 30/40/60 seconds.

Keep the group inspirations, just replace the mixed with something like those.

Yup, can't have enough of those.

I wouldn't be opposed to removing this from future packs and replacing it with 'costume purchase tokens' redeemable in the costume creator. Basically, what they do is allow you to buy any 1 costume piece available for purchase, maybe with a maximum of 20 or something on an account at one time (so you have to spend them before you can get more...no hoarding a load of them for future stuff).

But what? Lol would be terrible if they made it a white tiger...then I'd have to spend hundreds of dollars in an attempt to get it T_T

Why? The way I see it, if all you want is the costume set, super packs are like a Booster Pack+...it cost a bit more but comes with a *slew* of rewards that can make leveling new characters far more enjoyable. From the XP boosts, to the merits and the enhancement boosters, merits and inspirations...where a Booster is basically just a costume + a power and/or emote you may not use and has practically nil effect on gameplay, Super Packs are a bit the same + stuff that *does* have an affect on your gameplay.

No need to sell the costume seperate, just buy 24 packs and you'll have it + more.

I still have some rewards from the 36(?) packs I bought...mainly ally rezzes, some ATOs and prestige boosters (lol most of my alts aren't in SGs!). Doing this (claiming the rewards on the characters that need them) spread over around 6 alts (Dark/Thorns dom, Stj/Inv brute, DM/WP stalker, Staff/Inv brute, DP/Fire blaster, Grav/Time controller) has boosted them anywhere from lvl 1 up to the mid 30s (and higher for those that I had already started up) with far more ease than normal...and I'm one of those players that *hates* easy mode.

Super Packs are fine...but if people still think they're 'Gamble Packs' maybe the devs need to implement some *real* gambling into them. I'd have loved the chance, after opening a set of 5 cards, to swap back cards I didn't want for a chance at 1 card returned that wasn't the same as any of the cards returned.

Example: if I got a 25x merit card, a prestige booster card, 2 ally rez cards and Kheld ATO, I'd have liked the opportunity to flip back the prestige booster, an ally rez and the merit card(3 cards) and given 1 new one that automatically wasn't either a prestige booster, merit card or ally rez. Let me *really* gamble!

I guess you didn't read the context of what I was responding to and disregarded the way I answered it.

Radiation, electricity and plain energy do not have a different damage type though. And Negative Energy isn't energy 'created', it's 'summoned' or 'channeled'. The means to which it is spawn is a mystery locked in the dimension it's pulled from. It isn't a form of energy that exists in this world, as set by the lore of the game.


Right, because one isn't just the same thing +1. So far, that's what your comparison mainly shows...Rad Armor is Electric Armor +1.

Because blanket statements are always right, huh?

That's the thing about them though, is they're there for convenience not correctness. It's the same with any catalyst that is used to power any work that creates an effect and is possible to create one energy from another.

However that's not how dark energy works in CoX. Technically dubbed Negative Energy (but someone else mistyped it and I was just copying it), it's not 'dark energy', it's 'Netherworld energy' which has to be channeled from another dimension which has their own creatures completely comprised of the stuff. It will never be the same as regular energy and seeing how the game is set up (powersets using energy as protection generally have diminished protection to negative energy and the opposite for negative energy protection) they are opposites.


Yes, I realize the transmission between the synapses is chemical reactions, that was what the handwave was for. Apparently, if you can cover your body in electricity like an Elec Armor character can, you can also use the power to create similar internal reactions just like a battery. But it's easier to cut the explanation as they're still charged reactions.

Despite the illogical disconnects you may be making with those statements (even if DP is the same for both, those sets use it to completely different ends, one magnifying their regeneration and the other magnifying their resistance, that practically any weapon will mainly come down to cosmetic differences and that Power Sink is nothing like Consume since one is auto-hit and does no damage while the other is a wide-area AoE attack), one point you're glossing over is...those sets are issue 1 sets (or 1st CoV issue). Not only have they been in the game since the release of the ATs, but none have special gimmicks added to enhance their gameplay. They're hinging straight on their concept for what functionality they have. There's no need to copy the concept of another set to fulfill the added functionality of another set.

So you were just blurting out a group of words you heard that didn't make any sense? Because no one was pointing at your examples and making any judgements until you demanded them to be with a rhetorical. But to answer the rhetorical anyway, yeah, it is absurd because it has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Those other examples? They're already been made, tested and implemented. The topic I'm discussing? A powerset's concept who hasn't even been touched or even agreed upon yet. There's still room to make it not functionally electric armor + absorb.

Yes, because if someone has metal control, they can control the metal in the batteries, not the energy inside the batteries. Just because one can manipulate the mind doesn't mean one can manipulate what the mind has given off. Deforming synaptic connections in the mind of a psionic user has nothing to do with mental attacks already thrown at you.

The point was EMPs don't 'disrupt' psionics. Static Shield builds up synaptic connections with electricity because the set is Electric Armor. It's directly fortifying the mind from neural attacks.

And she becomes immune to psychic attacks, was the point.

Because Regen is a heal/regen set and Inv is a resist/def set. They're not the same.

Because Katana is better. Forget ugly broadsword unless you want to use a Shield...then they are functionally different...

Because Fire has lite-resist and more offense. Fire's endurance management is the least similar point of the set.


You're a liar if you think I said absurd.

Don't be a liar, liar.

But the concept is largely covered. What concept of Radiation Armor cannot be covered by existing sets so absolutely warrants a new set for it? Perhaps, however, after more info is release it actually will be someone different from existing sets enough to not be a waste of time.

Dark Energy is different as it is the inverse of energy. Electricity is special since the brain functions through (*insert handwave*) electric currents that can be overridden to make mental attacks less effective.

But I've never taken the position that radiation armor could not have psionic resistance, just that radiation armor doesn't *need* psionic resistance. As pointed out below, does the set not have enough alternative means to overcome psionic attacks without requiring a special hand-wave to add direct resistance to a damage type it wouldn't normally or conceptually resist?

Emma Frost?

That's Biotic Armor.

So we either have to borrow from Electric or Biotic to justify this? Why even bother, then? Are you that desperate for psionic resistance?

Maybe even unslotted enhancements. Frankly, with attuned enhancements, I feel there's really not anywhere too far beyond simply giving you the in-game ability to turn regular into attuned...

Giving an invention crafter who has created a slew of enhancements and unlocked all the badges the ability to change the levels of IOs seems perfectly fair to me.

Attuned aside, being able to slot -KB enhancements at lower levels, being able to slot procs sooner, and/or keeping bonuses when exemplared. Not only that, some lower level IOs are more sought after (and therefore cost more) because the supply is so low.

Well I hope the first costume pack is available...I missed it this year and seethe every time I see a vampire, crow costume change and/or the fishman face...I wanted those fish parts, dagnabit!

Took it. Thanks. Go Water Blast!

It was a joke response to your joke


Don't get me started. Personally, Spines would be just fine a fit if given proper animations for thowing knives/blades....

But I've derailed the thread enough.

When I think of post apocalyptic, I think of Fist of the Northstar....so we need to add Gumby-Physics to the game.

I'll take that as an insult

But yeah, if given the choice on the boards, I'd pick Thrown Weapons over Radiation anything. Because rad is covered:

-Caustic foe affecting radiation = Radiation Emissions
-Solar Radiation = Energy anything
-Toxic = got me there but that ain't gonna be Rad armor or Rad melee
-Radiation mutation = Biotic Armor
-Green Glowie stuff = pick an aura

But this is coming from someone who doesn't care for Rad to begin with...I've got no Radiation defenders/corruptors and the only Rad blast character I ever made, I recolored it aqua so it looks like water blast (worked pretty nicely, actually, and the after effects it left on foes looked like water and bubbles). To me, Rad isn't interesting probably because what makes Radiation truly formidable is that it's invisible. It's a force not perceived by the eyes and goes mostly unseen...radiation could be destroying you from the inside and you not being able to tell until it's too late. Anything else is just bells and whistles more better spent on something more visually appealing.

But like the Stalker changes, I'm not begrudging anyone for wanting it and I'll probably even use the set if it is versatile enough to be colored and played off as more than just radiation.

Also, I didn't get back until yesterday. I've been making up for lost time I guess...

Considering the emo world we live in now where a nasty facebook message can shatter someone's world, anything at all depressing is, like...multiplied by a bajillion and five!

It's soul crushing!!!

Because there is precedence for using barriers of various energy types to deflect or dissipate physical attacks like those. All of which tend to leave psionic as a hole.

*munches on cookie*

Eh, you can do that now. Hell, I pretended spines are throwing daggers and not bone fragments sticking from my body and that energy aura is a telekinetic aura made of psionic energy on another character.

Blame yourself if you're some piece of fail that can't be bothered to read the forums without it 'ruining' your game. I have every right to posting my opinion on these boards as you.


And it's not about 'logic and reality', it's about consistency.

So then it *is* a semi-waste of time since the mechanics are so similar. I mean, we could just put on a vaporous or glowing aura (or atomic aura) and pick Invulnerability for your radiation character if the above Hulk example is the example of Rad armor...


I honestly don't care *finishes cookie*

Perhaps you're reading ulterior motives in my posts?

I'm sure the many psychic character players will enjoy your definition of psionics being just another form of radiation, though.

As far as game mechanics go, though, since psionic is its own damage type and radiation is just another form of energy just like sonic and electricity, your definition cannot be correct. If only a small difference like you describe were needed to differentiate damage types, then why isn't energy energy damage, sonic sonic damage and radiation radioactive damage?

Examples? Because there is no precedence that radiation makes one more resistant to psionic damage at all.

If your only example is EMPs then perhaps I should paste the description of Static Shield?

"You can create a field of Static Electricity around your body. This Static Shield protects you from Hold, Sleep, and Disorient effects as well as Endurance Drain, Recovery DeBuffs and enemy Teleportation. Static Shield can also help normalize your synaptic activity, granting you good resistance to Psionic Damage. Recharge: Fast"

EMP doesn't disrupt psionics but if a specific character wanted to explain defense or resistance to psionic damage then that would work for them. The other way around, you'd have to define psionics as disruptable by radiation which it does no do directly. Here's the description of EMPulse:

"You can unleash a massive pulse of electromagnetic energy. This EMP can affect machines, and is even powerful enough to affect synaptic brain patterns. It will drain the Endurance and HP Regeneration of all affected targets and leave them incapacitated and Held for a long while. Additionally, most machines and robots will take moderate high damage. However, this power uses a lot of Endurance and leaves you unable to recover Endurance for a while. Recharge: Very Long"

Yeah, EMPs are effective against synaptic brain patterns, not psionic energies. Not even Electric Armor's Static Shield 'blocks' psionic energy. It'd make more sense for radiation to simply debuff psionic damage more than other damage types, but no, it has no precedence of manipulating or dissipating psionic powers without attacking the source.

That actually would justify it being pretty much a Heal Other but in a 15-20ft radius. Have it trigger by a short 5ft proximity though.

The idea is, the set could be balanced and built to have heals but in a limited scope with respect to its other capabilities. Now you can either do that by forcing certain conditions (requiring an enemy like Transfusion or Twilight Grasp) or by simply giving the set a weak heal (Alkaloid and O2 Boost)...or you can do something even crazier.

Just saying, AoE focused buff sets probably shouldn't have high or moderate amounts of debuffing and decent amounts of damage AND be a competent source of healing. If it can do all of that, then it should be limited/lower values or situational.

Where the heck is your avatar from, Dragorian?

The guy punches him so hard, it sends him flying and his clothes fly off!? WT*?!

Anime is awesome

Good thing I wasn't there. If I was and I saw you scratching out your name and I'd have known you were going to suggest Magnetism as a control set, I'd have kicked you in the kneecap...twice.

Magnetism is a *GREAT* set idea and I'm sure many would love to play it...If the devs aren't going back to add alternate animation themes for old sets so you could swap Earth Control theme for a Metal Control theme (it only half-a-quarter works with the color customized) then the devs should be considering the set seriously.

The visuals could spawn from the ground and basically be pipes and I-beams that sprout up and wrap around foes' bodies/legs. A key/unique power could be a sleep/confuse toggle aura conceptualized as minutely controlling the metal on or in biological creatures and a strong high-mag confuse on robots because you can control the metal they're made of. The pet could either be a hulking golem of metal held together by your energies or simply a floating titan weapon that just goes around smacking stuff...would be awesome if it was like an amorphous liquid metal ball that morphs into stuff (big gun, big arm, big hammer) for every attack but that's probably too hard.

But yeah, Magnetism or Metal Control would have gotten my support.

*searches thread for the word 'realistic'*

*finds 1 entry by Nethergoat*

That depends what type of psionics are present. But AFAIK, psionic energy isn't regular energy. Because psionics are not governed by the same laws as energy and yet is itself specialized so as only making specific phenomena occur (a psionic user would have to know or be capable of manipulating or creating energy or fire or mineral, etc. *with* their psionics otherwise it does not transcribe into such effects at all).

Just because psionics can make fire doesn't mean psionics is fire-based. Just because psionics can create kinetic force doesn't mean psionics is kinetic-based. So on and so forth...

Electromagnetic is Electric Armor which is why Electric Armor resists psionic damage...see Static Shield a.k.a. electrostatics/eletromagnetics.

Again, you can say Radiation can be used to make such electrostatic effects, but it'd be reaching to justify the effect being there. That Electric Armor has psi resists was a stretch but it makes sense (electrostatic, static/white noise, etc).

But anyway/sarcasm, let's see how we stretch Rad Armor to justify giving it everything one could ask for in an armor set...I'm sure it won't be corny, cheezy, cheap or lame at all.

/sarcasm