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That was kind of my point when I posted that. EA doesn't 'suck' like was stated earlier. It's just a defense set from the perspective of the early levels. Now it may not be SR once past lvl 24 but that's another can-o-worms. But considering the pool choices and endurance management, it has its own advantages.

Now I thought there were separate mods for range_buff mods and self_buff mods. Is that not why Tanker's melt armor and things like Maneuvers and Grant Cover aren't overpowered for them?

Not to mention Katana *looks* good. Broadsword looks like you're swinging a metal flyswatter.

Thinking a Kinetic/Electric Melee would synergize well to sap foes + siphon speed to get that Lightning Rod up faster.

Really, I think you just have to wait until Spines gets proliferated to Brutes (can you imagine how bad it'd be on them currently?). Then Castle will have to crack his knuckles and finally get on with 'fixing' Spines.

People may cry now about that but the set will probably be better off (not to mention spread around to more ATs). It'll flow better and probably not be completely handicapped vs single hard targets.

But my point was, BaB probably won't go shaving off animation seconds and then Castle following behind to balance everything. Castle will ultimately dictate the direction in adjusting the set with new animation times and then BaB will alter the animations afterwards. You won't get one without the other.

You've got the wrong idea. BaB adjusts animation times *ONLY* when Castle requires it. He doesn't go shaving off or adding seconds because he think it looks good. He said so himself when another poster jokingly accused him of butchering EM and he replied it was Castle that put him on the task.

The weapon sets had their animations shaved off because Castle wanted the weapon sets to start being proliferated to Brutes and those draw times were affecting fury. That's when Castle tasked BaB to go in and mess with animation times. Now any weapons sets (except Spines) can be cleanly proliferated without messing with animations, just the numbers.

So Assassin's Flame, Placate, Build up, Breath of Fire, Scorch, Cremate, Firesword, Greater Firesword....and Taunt!?

Sure. Whatever you say >_>

Okay, but *ONLY* because you said so.

Actually, a broadsword is a form of short sword. Really, a broadsword is a type of straight sword that some short swords and long swords fit categorically into.

You just described a type of stalker. Heck, you can play the Grim Reaper in any non-kill all mission by just looking at foes you pass and decide "It's his time to go" or not. I do it all the time. Again, a stalker doesn't have to be some cold-blooded killer or hired hitman. They can kill for higher purposes just like Death. And if we *are* using the Grim Reaper to reference a specific AT, it certainly wouldn't be Brute and probably not Scrapper (they seem to usually kill everything indiscriminately).

Anyway, I believe I've made my point, no need to press it

For ranged weapons, or any new weapon that's being suggested, I think it'd be more interesting to include alternate damage types for them than the typical smashing and lethal. For boomerrangs, similarly to Archery, it'd be cool if they had an attack in there that does something like smashing/cold damage. You can say it spins so fast it creates a cold chill (??). The throwing knives/shuriken could have a poisoned tip attack that does lethal/toxic damage + DoT. The mentioned scythe I think would work with all the attacks being lethal/neg energy.

I don't see it working as intended. You gave negative rep to someone you mistakingly thought was someone else. I gave you negative rep for your misuse of said system and yet it does absolutely nothing in the long run.

i.e. it isn't working.

Now that's just plain being a jerk, Bill. Explain why you felt the need to deduct reputation from someone just because they have an opinion differing from yours. Now if he posted in a trollish, annoying or incoherent way, maybe...

I think I've added/deducted rep about 4 times total since the forums changed (most positive toward SteelClaw in this thread) but you'll be my 4th and my 1st deduction. Not because I don't agree with what you said but for misuse of the rep system.

In the long run, it does nothing but annoy and frustrate the boards. If the system were dropped, who would actually miss it?

If something needs to replace this system, I'd opt for the old 'stars' system. I'd generally read threads with titles or subjects that interests me and skip everything else unless it had an odd star rating (high or low) then I'd read into those too. This rep system, when used properly, doesn't do much and when used improperly is just a griefing tool.

Np, I just want to post stuff in the Stalker forums so people know who I side with

But if anything, OP, I'd just go with concept...or whatever set sounds fun. I had a blast with my Spines/Dark not because it was easy or 'the best' but because it had a different playstyle and fit my character's concept. He's sitting at lvl 39 not because I don't want to play him but because I'm an altaholic. About 99.68% of my characters range from lvl 22-41 and 0% are lvl 50

Actually, you were the one who said anything about broadswords first and the category of weapon Jason uses is just that.

The problem with quoting video games is, unless it's exclusively a stealth game, the argument that said character is not a stalker because he doesn't sneak around is always going to be used. Same with your opinion on Jason (I mean, come on!! The guy *LITERALLY* stalks people!). If I put down Batman from the AA game, you quote the parts of the game where he stands and fights.

It's pretty discriminating to Stalkers, really. As if they can't stand and fight and must *only* sneak around and hit and run. That's not how it's done nor has it ever been done. In summation, a Stalker is everything, in concept, that a Scrapper is but can use surprise and stealth to their advantage.

I said one. Death. The Grim Reaper. This guy:




“Think of the Lord! No one knows this secret, of when the Messenger of Death will seize you and take you away. All your weeping and wailing then is false. In an instant, you become a stranger. You obtain exactly what you have longed for. Says Nanak, in the fourth watch of the night, O mortal, the Grim Reaper has harvested your field.” --Adi Sri Guru Granth Sahib


You must already know how pissed off I am that Stalkers got Broadsword over a set that would provide great new possibilities for alternative playstyles. You must have known this and are now twisting the knife.

A two bladed finesse weapon? Like Dual Blades? But with alternate animations of course....

Nah, I want a big weapon. Nothing says assassinate than one-shotting someone with an oversized piece of metal with a sickle at the end.

If you're talking about Ninjutsu, having that set custom fitted for Stalkers is kinda balanced out by the sacrifices every other armor set takes upon proliferation. Talking about the removal of Quick Recovery, Extra +res passive from SR, endurance draining tool of Elec armor, etc.

Stalker does not equal quick nimble ninja guy. They can, but they can also be murderous knife wielding maniac that pops out from behind stuff when you least expect it (Jason ain't no stealthy quick ninja but he manages to sneak up on people). Or in this case, the most recognizable figure to use a Scythe, Death, stalks his targets until their time comes. Death certainly doesn't flip out and kill stuff, or SMASH things.

That's why I think Scythe is best for Stalkers. It's an unwieldly weapon not built for actual combat like a sword or spear. As for it not being built for 'assassinations', it's a game where a broadsword is a 'heavy weapon'. I think broadening Stalker's repertoire from simple assassinations to 'cold-blooded killing' or 'reaping mortal souls' isn't nearly as far a stretch.

As for Kusari Gama and that chain weapon, I could possibly see the chain weapon working but more of an assault set because of its range. The kusari gama is too niche a concept. Really, only ninjas and japanese warriors used that weapon. Scythe is more broad a concept.

Well you can just be pissed until they proliferate it like I am with Ice melee for Stalkers. That is what I was implying. Create the set, design it around doing what a Stalker does best, let it sit on that AT for an issue or two *then* proliferate it. Bonus points if it's extremely 'meh' for Brutes and Scrappers, positively awesome for Stalkers and absolutely amazing on Tankers.

When the heck did they say that? If so...

tsk, tsk. *shakes head at Sexy Jay*

Good question. But I'm afraid you know too much to simply leave.

*Quarktease is quickly Assassinated*