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Synapse replied to me that while he can't disclose the actual numbers, he can say that "no item is weighted more than 5x than any other item."

This is a very important point, because our tables are showing top items drop 10x more often than the bottom items. This implies that need a lot more data to get the actual numbers, and also gives us a higher bound: the top recipe in our tables is 5x, and it goes downhill from there. This is most definitely an oversimplification, but I'm going to go ahead and update the tables to include a "Weight" column, which will assume the top recipe is weighted at 5x. In theory, after many many many drops, we should see some clear "break points" emerge.

I sent you a PM, Dreammy.

Very nice! Those 606 rolls brings the 25-29 range to 1285 rolls total, and some clear winners are surfacing. I think we still need at least another thousand rolls however, as your rolls added two recipes to the range that hadn't even been captured before. It's starting to look like we're going to need at least 3000 rolls for this range. Too many recipes!

Quick, someone make an AE arc about Manticore forgetting his wedding anniversary! With SP being a psychic, he can't even claim he had not forgotten. I can see SP reaching for the Enema Arrows...

PUG WTF MOMENT!

So, I start a Cavern of Trascendence trial and ask for players in Freedom Events, Freedom Monster, Freedom Badge, etc; the regular global channels. Among the people who reply, there's this guy, I'll call him "Pikachu" to protect the guilty.

So, I have 8 people, I explain to them: I'll port each of you to one of 8 obelisks, and we have to click them all simultaneously. After that, I'll port everybody to the final monster. Nobody moves from where I port you to, ok? And a chorus of "ok" comes back, including Pikachu.

I port people to their respective obelisks, do the countdown, and... all the obelisks but Pikachu's are clicked. He's in the middle of the map, battling some Pumicites and promptly getting killed. Annoyed, I port him to my obelisk, tell him to stay there ("ok" comes back) and I move to another obelisk.

I do the countdown again, and... Pikachu doesn't click. I target him, and he's... flying around the middle of the map.

Now quite annoyed, I start blasting him on team chat:

Doctor Leo: Pikachu, WHAT THE HECK are you doing?!
Teammate: is there anyone else you can put on it?
Doctor Leo: no, we need 8
Teammate: damn, that's right

Pikachu is still flying around the map, and I lose my patience:

Doctor Leo: Pikachu, you need to stay at the obelisk and click it when we say so, stop DOING THAT!

And he replies, in team chat:

Pikachu: no se donde estais

INSERT WTF HERE. That's spanish for "I don't know where you are". The guy didn't understand English and was trying to get together with the group. I have no idea how he understood that I was asking for people to do the trial, or how he managed to pick my message among the many messages in English in the global channels I spammed.

So I switch to Spanish:

Doctor Leo: Tenés que mantenerte donde te digo yo
Doctor Leo: Y apretar el obelisco cuando decimos
Teammate: el clicko
Doctor Leo: No te muevas como idiota por todo el mapa
Pikachu: ok

"You have to stay where I port you, and click the obelisk when we say so. Don't move like an idiot all over the map." So I port him, and:

Doctor Leo: Quedate ahi
Doctor Leo: Click in 30 seconds
Doctor Leo: CLICK EN 10 SEGUNDOS
Pikachu: vale
Doctor Leo: CLICK NOW - HAZ CLICK AHORA

Everybody clicks their obelisks, Pikachu included, and the door is unlocked. We rush to Koago, and finish the trial, 13 minutes in. The annoyance past, I relax, and then a teammate hits me with this message:

Teammate: damn, you're pretty much useful for everything, aren't you?

I just had to laugh.

This is something I've been thinking about. The devs have stated that there will be no War Walls in Praetoria. That means, possibly, that you can travel between the zones without having to go through a "zone gate" like we do in COH, or a ferry like we do in COV (since as far as I'm aware, Praetoria won't be a bunch of islands).

Now, they probably could rig something so you could change zones by touching the "force field" at the frontier of a zone and appearing in another zone (you can do that currently if you swim to the south end of Peregrine Island; the game will dump you in Talos). However, the more I think about it, the more I feel that the devs wouldn't be happy with such clunky zoning, and would rather have a seamless zone transition.

Which would mean, you could start in whatever zone Praetoria starts at, and sprint all the way to the highest level zone without seeing a single loading screen. And how could they do that without messing with the game too much? By cramming all of Praetoria in a single zone.

We have pretty huge zones; the Shadow Shard zones are massive (if quite empty), Nerva could be considered three zones by itself (Actual zone, Agincourt, Primeva/Thorn Tree), Independence Port is quite large as well...

Actually, think about Independence Port for a while. It has a zone "within" the zone, Terra Volta, which is larger inside than outside. The screenshot that was given to us as a teaser showed some caves. Maybe one of the zones will be a system of caves where the Resistance meets, which can easily be "gated" from the rest of Praetoria?

Of course, if this were the case, I expect to see a ton of instances of the zone, as I'm sure a lot more than 200 players would visit it (at least when first released). The zone population cap is the one big issue I see against this implementation.

How would you feel if Praetoria had four or five "zones" worth of content, but all together in one "big zone" so we can seamlessly move between them? Would you think "THE EXPANSION IS JUST ONE ZONE! FAIL! RAGEQUIT!" or welcome the lack of zoning, and adapt to hopping instances a lot?

Thanks, Liquid! Wiki page updated. There are 85 recipes in this pool (so far), so we'll probably need a lot more data before we can get good numbers. As it is, the more valuable recipe of the pool (LOTG 7.5) has a drop rate of about 1:46, and the Miracle: +Recovery has a drop rate of 1:121 (very high margin of error.)

Great job, we have 1803 rolls in the 20-24 range now... and Pacing of the Turtle is still too darn high.

I tend to not give a darn about influence unless there's something specific I want to buy, at which point I start selling crafted common IOs for a neat 200K-400K profit per IO (I have every recipe memorized) and doing lots and lots of TFs to buy expensive recipes with merits, for 500K-750K per merit (LOTG 7.5s, Miracle +Rec, etc). I can easily get a billion inf in less than a month that way. The only reason I never hit the cap is that I buy whatever I want (Panacea sets, the last time; bought the last one, a Panacea: Heal for a billion last week, the bid is still listed in Wentworths) and then go back to playing regularly without caring much for influence.

Awesome, PumBumbler! That's 1456 rolls in the 20-24 category now, and the first thing that comes to mind is, "what the heck is Pacing of the Turtle doing ranked so darn high?" And both of them, in fact.

I managed to get a couple more copies through when I moved my character to Justice for tonight's Hami raid and then back; every time the character copied, I could get the script to send a copy over to Test. So, there's 107 rolls in the Wiki page now, which is not much, but it'll grow as soon as the Copy Tool decides to stop working against me.

That was fun. I didn't die a single time, but my team hugged the dirt a lot :P

And I got Texas Justice to team! Woo!

The character copy tool seems to be taking FOREVER to let me copy the same character several times.

I'm trying to copy my main several times in order to gather data for this page, but while the actual copy process takes maybe five minutes, the Copy Tool is then stuck with the message "Doctor Leo (copy in progress)" for a very, very long time. I made a copy yesterday at 10:30pm, and today at 1:30pm, FIFTEEN HOURS later, it was still saying "(copy in progress)".

It's not godhood. Yesterday, me and three others (2 trollers, a blaster, and a defender) ran Positron in one hour and 22 minutes. I don't have an screenshot to prove that one, but I do have an screenshot of last friday's, when my team took an hour and 30 minutes:



We were racing three SG teams to see who finished first, and the second place team clocked at one hour and 41 minutes. The teams weren't optimized for anything, we just grabbed people and went.

Well, I started 20-24, but the character copy tool keeps saying "copy in progress" on my character for the last 15 hours at least (it's been stuck since I posted the last message), so I can't add any rolls until it decides to work. The data on the first 25 rolls I managed to do is on the wiki.

Edit: well, I managed to get another copy through, so that's 25 more rolls. And now the copy tool is again making me wait forever.