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Quote:You could just not go see it. I mean I won't be seeing Nolan's third batman film while it's in theathers. I didn't see either of the first two till they were on DVD for free. Hundreds of bad video games are made every year I never touch. People can make all I don't like things they want , I just don't have to experience them.Originally Posted by QuiJon
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It looks like several people here are lucky they probably never will gain super powers. I'd be their Lex luthor and take them down hehe.
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Quote:I don't see using natural advantages for self fulfilling outlets as being a villian. Otherwise every good looking person who has been paid to be a model is a villian. Every athelete who opted to use their physical abilities to make millions rather than be a soldier or cop is selfish by that defination. Basically everything you do that doesn't help someone else is being a villian if you go with that. The world takes all kinds to go around.Originally Posted by BlackArachnia
Depends on my powers, but over all, yes I would lean towards self gratification. COuld I be a villain? In the strictest interpetation, yes. I do believe in using one's powers to change the world for their own benefit, as well as the worlds benefit, and no, both are not the same.
I see it being a villian the moment you trample other people's right with said power. Taking care of yourself though and making yourself better to a point is just being human. You're no good to anyone else if you're broken. The better you take care of yourself the better you are prepared to help others.
Just matter of looking at the big picture. Over thinking every last detail and needing the perfect answer everytime is the path to madness.(and believe me I've done tons of that.) As Patton said, "An imperfect plan now is better than a perfect plan that's too late." Help who you can, and try not to kick too many others down in the process of getting where you want to go. That's all you can do.
We just like to flaunt what we got going on. Makes us easy targets. And stuff like This! (NSFW)doesn't help. I don't think we've done anything worse than anyone else in history. We just have better recorded history and more people keeping score at this point in time.Quote:Originally Posted by Lazarus
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Quote:I'd have a massive problem with your brand of help. The world doesn't need that sort of help. In most cases you're just treating symptoms not really curing the disease. It either creates a power vacuum to be filled or you go so far to terrorize humanity into following your code of morality like Tyrant. Who heck are you to decide who should live or die? This is a very slippery slope that's entirely too easy to fall down. Is the future of our world worth a single human life? You'll never stop at one!
This is exactly right. And if I had super powers, I'd use them to help others.
Creating more death and fear is last thing I'd want to see people with powers doing. Freedom is the right of all people, even evil ones. Peace thru tyranny is not the answer. I refuse live in that world and would fight someone like that with every fiber of my being. I'd rather live in a world where murders and thieves can sometimes escape justice than have some super being judging us all and trampling our freedoms because they can. -
Everyone seems be ok. The car that got wrecked was a production model which they had several of on handle at a given time. It's not like the first film where the camero was a concept car they only had one of on hand and costs stupid amounts of money to replace. (I remember Shia commenting on first film who extremely careful he was around the car.) Ultimately the show most go on.
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I imagine there would be more factors to whether or not people become a villain or not than simply receiving super powers.
- What powers do you have? Just how high do they go? If someone gets amped up to above captain america physical stats I'd picture them wanting be professional atheletes rather than super villains. I see someone with far greater power to say super man or captain marvel range more likely to abuse it or stick their nose into the world's affairs. I'd definitely want to know my limits before I tried doing anything dangerous.
- Is there anyone else with super powers? Like in no ordinary family, the bank robber who could teleport said "Did you think you were the only one?" That's a really good question to ask yourself. Just because you haven't seen anyone else with powers, doesn't mean there isn't. Who knows if there's been some long running secret order of metas running the world and you publicly showing off is rocking the boat. I'd proceed with caution before slapping on tights and assuming I'm truly the only one with powers. Also does the world's governments know about you? There's alot worse things they can do besides force you to register. (like use your family as leverage or disect you in a lab.)
- Does your power set shut off or are you always in super mode?(or the origin of your powers for that matter.) I picture people who power down like Green Lanterns keep a better sense of what it's like to be human still than people who'd always be powered up like Wonder woman. Power begins to alienate you from others. Just like people really high up in a company don't understand the considerations of what it takes to do a job at the lowest level since they haven't done it recently or ever; people with powers would take for granted just how fragile humans are and all their needs to survive.
- Do you have an exploitable weakness? Is it something common? I think this would be a major factor to how people might react. If you are powerful as martian manhunter, but are weak to fire you might not want to get too uppity with the rest of the world since they can still take you out with something fairly common. There's a way to keep you on your leash. If you are like Black Adam and immune to anything the rest of the planet can do to you, the only thing stopping you from being evil is you. There is no deterence to keep you honest.
- Does your power extend your lifespan? The urges of someone who's been around the block a bunch of times might not be the same as someone who's been newly minted as a super being. Even if your initial schemes and plans were all petty may be you grow out of it. Or may be you were once noble but become sickened with humanity after years of watching us.
For me taking all that into consideration I'd be neither a villain or a hero. I figure the world's lasted this long without a super version of me getting involved it doesn't need me now. At very least doesn't need to know I exist. The first step to destroying something is to know it exists. You can then understand it if you can study it. Then you can control it and break it if you know how it works.
So I'd prefer to eliminate that option by making it appear I've done nothing at all.(if somehow I am discovered I disappear for awhile. I try remain an urban legend at best.) Just like in the episode of futurama where Bender is god to a small race and meets a computer who might be the one above all, (or superman returns people were crying for him to save then.) why allow for people to become dependent on you. If they don't know you're helping them you can give as little or as much as needed without upsetting the balance of the world.
I can think of tons of ways make money without robbing anyone with super powers. Anyone who's first plan is to do that simply doesn't think big enough. Besides the fact super powers remove much of the things you'd need money for anyways.
I've probably thought about this entirely too much for something that's very unlikely to happen to anyone at this current time. I think if it did I'd be well prepared. -
Animated was one of the best written series since beast wars. Once you get past the quirky art style (it's aimed toward kids.) and the first end of the season it begins to really pick up a bit. It has tons of references to previous series. While I'd like to seen it gone atleast one more season after the finale Endgame, it atleast went out on a high note.
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All this nerdrage and I didn't cause it. I'm losing my touch. (turns on You've got the touch as he walks out of the thread.)
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Quote:He managed to somehow do it in Armageddon along with an bay-xplosion that could been since from space around the planet. I dont look for bay to get physics and placement of locals on a map whether its in space or the earth right heh.Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
How will Michael Bay make every scene take place during sunset in space?
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Quote:Given the third act of the movie was filmed in chicago I agree with your assessment. I'm sure there will be some scenes in space but those will likely just be transformers alone.Originally Posted by Talia_Rayvyn
Despite the name I imagine most of the action is going to take place on Earth again.
I find it kinda hard to imagine Shia LaBeaouf doing his usual human antics on the moon in a spacesuit, Jmosh Duhamel & Tyrese Gibson doing their NEST army stuff in spacesuits against the robots ooooor coming up with a plausible reason that John Turturro is on the moon living in his mother's basement. -
Let the fan worship begin!
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Not sure why they didnt just go with Dark side of the moon instead since the title already got me thinking of Pink Floyd anyways. Dark of the moon just sounds off. Darkness of the moon, Mysteries of the moon or something else. I know that the plot has to do with something back during the kennedy adminstration and the space race as there's some cybertronian secret on the moon.
The movie might be fun(I know people online love to hate these films yet they keep getting watched...so its anyones fault who goes to see it and hasn't figured out they dont want to see this by now.) but this title gets a thumbs down. Revenge of the fallen atleast worked because it was exactly what the movie was about. Plus you could always take another meaning to it with Megatron who had fallen and wanted revenge if you weren't aware of the Fallen being an actual character. There's no meaning to dark of the moon. -
Quote:Well both the parents have some enhanced ability to withstand damage since they re the two likely character to do any super brawling.(which I would almost thought Step would wanted to help Jim save Georg given she could have gotten there faster.) They can both take some beating then but aren't unstoppable.Originally Posted by MaestroMavius
I can't believe nobody has mentioned that she's also a Regen!
Secondary powers ftw.
Both the kids likely would end up doing support stuff later. Given it's ABC they probably won't portray much violence toward them directly. (unlike Heroes which ....well some Cheerleaders didn't get saved.)
I was surprised they took out Detective Cho. I was expecting her possibly work with Jim in the future. Guess we won't have worry about any love triangles between her and Jim forming later.
Lastly don't trust Katie. She's a french spy I tell ya hehe. (bonus to anyone who gets that.) -
Quote:And his character role as he tried get some stimilus money for his ecomony.Originally Posted by Wayfarer
5 characters. I'm pretty sure the Obama Mask robber had embraced his power.
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I just watched it on Hulu. Was a nice start. Good see another super human based show after heroes had been laid to rest. Hopefully this one has a much better run as the pilot was promising so far.
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Quote:Beat everyone off our new borders as we always have? It's worked pretty well so far.Originally Posted by Durakken
A movie I just watched...
"The Battle for Terra"
available on Netflix
Humans detroyed Earth and need to colonize a new planet. The planet they have chosen has life on it already. So now what should they do? -
I tend think sequels have every bit as much purpose as new IPs do. Some games don't quite hit their sweet spot till second or third game. Sure there's game that take steps backward because the developers are trying hard to keep the series from being stagnate. Make it too much the same and people will be up in arms about it. Change too much you get back lash as the game doesn't feel like the same series anymore. It's a tough line to walk.
I think one of the biggest gripes I have is games trying mix too many genres together AKA sandbox games. Don't get me wrong as some games placing them into big expansive 3D worlds was the next step and worked great such as Zelda: ocarina of time. Other series have been perfected in 2D such as megaman, mario, castlevania and shine the most there.
Games of yesterday had tech limitations and had to pick a strength. Some times they would turn limits into a unique gameplay mechanic. Such as Bionic commando focused on swinging around rather than jumping since you couldn't fit any more buttons on a NES controller. Silent Hill put fog in it's backguards to hide some of the graphical weakness which made the game spookier. Games would pick a strength and do it well as they could.
Current games have a bad habit of watering down genres such as survival horror and stealth games. In both you would be inept in combat because it would force you to avoid trouble , conserve resources and use stealth. Now both have more or less mutated into 3D action games.(such as metal gear and Resident Evil.) I mean who doesn't want a character who can duke it out with everything on screen with no qualms. Sorry for giving people a different type of challenge besides mauling everything insight.
I don't see sequels being the problem. I have more of a problem that people started putting graphics before game play.(thanks final fantasy 7.) Flash before substance. They've turned gaming into T ball where everyone wins. Heaven forbid people actually get stuck in a game and...GASP have to learn new tactics and tricks besides button mashing through everything. And developers just making massive games that try do everything but excell at nothing. (see brutal legend.) Those are much bigger beefs in my mind than sequels. -
Quote:I'm guessing you haven't paid much attention to the character or read anything I said about it. Just a hunch heh.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I find the Hulk rather boring too - there's not really much to him
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Quote:How I feel about it. I usually flip thru it since it's free with my edge card. You get what you pay for. They tend to periodically make completely unfounded comments that absolutely false that will get cited on the internet as fact later. Or just really biased and foolish comments about certain things.Originally Posted by NinjaPirate
I only have the magazone cos it's part of the Gamestop member card deal.
It's good for passing the time in the bathroom.
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Such as they claimed in their retrospect review of Megaman X 6 it was retconned out of the series by inafune which is bunk. Inafune was initially mad at release because it forced him to tweak his story for the zero series a bit to allow for Zero's continued presence in the X games but it all worked out. He got over it. Nothing I've ever read any where as a megaman fan ever cited their statement as fact. Not the fan sites, not the canon of the games nada.
I'm guessing it was more of a hyperbole of how bad they felt the game was rather than stating a fact but they needed bring that across better if that were the case for those who don't know better. Somehow I doubt GI is going to correct it though either way. -
I personally always liked the hulk because I was able to relate to him. As someone who was a very ticked off teenager who hated my father, I always felt like a ticking time bomb, and just wanted left alone. Like the entire world was against me at times, and I was struggling to keep it all together and not become what I hated. If you watched the Intro to 90s hulk TAS it really captures the feel of the character well. To be backed into a corner with it all coming down on you and the only thing you have left is your rage. That is the hulk.
As for Hulk being stupidly powerful, that's the point of his character.(Granted comics tend to power crept many characters beyond a comfortable level in last 20 years.Animated series and movies tend do a better job of capturing characters while still keeping them beatable and less insane levels.) That almost nothing can stop him when unleashed is exactly why Bruce Banner is so afraid of letting it out. If he was easily stopped then he'd have little to be afraid of. He's afraid that at some point he won't be able to stop himself and tons of people will die. Why he can't stay in one place for long as you knows he can never find peace long as he is the hulk. His power is a curse.
The Hulk like Godzilla is just this force of nature. (and both are powered by radiation, they re very similar in a lot of ways.) He can be both a villain and a hero at the same time. While he is childlike at times, others he wants to destroy everything in sight. Bruce Banner ultimately tries very hard to steer the hulk in the right direction, but he sometimes fails.
I'd recommend watching the Hulk Vs movies as they give a snapshot of the character and are fun to watch. In Hulk vs Thor it puts a face on just what being the hulk costs Bruce, as it was one of the saddest moments I've seen in a long time. You always knew it was holding back. But to see it then have Bruce have it all ripped away and allow himself to be dragged back into the cycle of madness to save the lives of millions showed Bruce Banner is a hero at heart despite it all. A reluctant one, but a hero nonetheless.
Hulk is best when it focuses on psychology of the character than being nothing but a smash fest.(why I actually liked the Ang Lee hulk movie since I felt it did rather well on that side while the newer film was better on the action side.) The smashing is very much a part of his character as nothing sums up being angry like Hulk Smash! but with out the war with in and the alienation of the world around him being part of the story he just becomes a bit dumb loud character of little substance. There's been some great runs of the hulk that really tap into all that and make a very human story.
Sure there's dumb things like Loeb's current run, which the saddest part it could easily been a good story if just handled properly. Every character has a lousy run here and there though, but I wouldn't say it takes too much away from the character's collective wealth of good stories.
I can understand he might not be for everyone. As someone who gets it, he's my kind of character. -
Quote:Sounds like someone needs unlock the power of self respect too hehe.Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
Gee golly, thanks mister!
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Quote:Not every hero revels in being written like a loony tune character to point it's far too jarring.
I don't know why some people get bent out of shape over it. Pretty much every hero adventure story has the good guy overcoming seemingly insurmountable odds.
Actually people don't mind normals winning when it makes sense, the problem is top tier heroes have generally power creeped so stupidly these defeats often rely too much far too heavy of plot convenience as all super powered chaarcters tend get written as doing everything at half speed and generally act like morons.Quote:Most people don't like it when Badass Normals are put into fights against beings that grossly outclass them.
Crisis on two Earth is a perfect example of the plot being railroaded to make Batman seem important. Big opening super brawl, Batman would gotten horribly crushed...he stays behind due to his some excuse about working on the base. Act two the villains arrive at the Watch Tower, Batman just happens be in a mech working so he can actually throw down briefly with the super powered villains. He then summons back up which he follows Superwoman back thru her portal and continues fighting.
Superwoman is litterally toying with Batman. She could have ended the fight at any moment. She actually helps lift a heavy object off of him during the fight because he's outclassed so badly then opts to only break a rib when he continues to fight when she offers do some other physical activities. He eventually wins because he tosses down a green gas bomb, and she then gets I'm in a scene with batman induced stupidity in full effect and says you can't hide from me in this smoke and inhales it instead of blow it away with her super breath which he replies..it's not smoke. (No duh captain obvious, it's green gas.) She jobbed for her completely.
I get he had to win thru skill and intelligence but Batman is only as smart as the person writing him; In this case their plan wasn't very good and simply relied on the foe being dumb as a rock not him being this uber planner.
If you were to take the flip side of the coin there Owl man is the character batman should be. (or closer to.) He actually has better tech and enhanced himself with it why he could actually throw down with Wonder woman (mind you she isn't a murderous psycho) far more evenly and it's not remotely as jarring. Batman has the I'm riding around in a wheelchair for the fun of it mentality because super powers actually slow me down B.S. going.
At the end Batman opts to run ahead of the gang despite being the least effective member there in combat. I mean he just had to a wait a sec and all of the team could have jumped Owlman together. Oh no Batman needs to fight this guy alone to show how bad @ss he is since the gap between them of all the foes is the least. During the fight Owlman says what the whole audience is thinking, Why didn't you just send your flying man. (and possibly save both the life Owlman and Johnny Quick.) No because Batman doesn't trust anyone else to do it for him, he needs do it for himself. So his entire characters assinine stance is entirely composed of pride...all more reason he needs get taken down a peg in my mind. Batman ultimately could win this fight without much help from plot armor since it was a bit more even. It was just completely pointless for it to have gone down that way.
Comics often get the same treatment as this film. It's not just the BANs can win, it's that most top tier characters in both DC and Marvel have power creeped up to stupidly high levels to point, nothing on human levels should be a remote threat regardless how much planning is involved.
In DC in particular just about every uber power leveled character has super speed of mach or higher variety. (which always comes up for vs threads with marvel characters.) They generally seem to treat their advanced movement as travel powers like they suffer from CoX mobility supression. Between most of them becoming too super for their own good to point and the extreme speed (Martian Manhunter.) writers have trouble making crebile threats for them, and to have BANS beating them gets all more silly. As the Flash said to Batman "You touched me because I let you." It's damn near impossible for you beat someone who you can't even react to. Especially when they can defeat you in 1 hit or effortless. (which in most fantasy stories the uber bad guys tend be big slow moving monsters that get nerfed by whatever magical plot device that tends be a sword the hero gets that easily kills them; such as dragon warrior , shining force etc. It's not that hard to buy someone land a lethal hit on something like that.)
Granted there was a time when the top tier characters were written to being knocked around by stuff of human calibur or just above. The gap then wasn't as jarring. If you were to go back to the 80s in marvel's case especially (the Xmen all seem to become omega mutants since then.) their characters weren't that much more uber than any other action hero. Obviously characters have plot armor by default as named characters character in a story often does. (everyone who isn't a named character tends be written with ninja physics.) So gap between the top and the bottom was as high as it was more of any given sunday then. (if you were look at a marvel power listing of strengths only like 4-5 guys had 100 ton range , which that seems be the baseline for all bricks nowdays.)
Between power creeping, extreme levels of speed and durability, less than inspired writing it gets hard to buy BANs can regularly defeat someone who basically only loses because they want to at that point.
He definitely has some better resists to damage than a normal human or his electrical powers would kill him heh. How his smashing/lethal resists fair is another question.Quote:As far as I know, Black Lightning's ability to resist damage isn't any greater than Batman's. -
Heh makes me think of This! Periodically comics always toss in some weird temporary change to characters. I swear they do it just so we're happy that the characters remain stagnet and unchanging when they make dumb changes. Oh captain America is boring you say...lets turn him into a werwolf...is that better? nope, well then here's your reg cap back. Take it and shut up.
Quote:Hows batman any less ridiculous than the punisher operating in a world of super powered people? Especially given people like Superman could bring him in any time he felt like it. He uses non-lethal force so there's always witnesses. Figuring out who he is wouldn't take much longer or perhaps would be easier because of that. Oh that's right, he's the gosh darn batman, he gets a free pass on everyone's disbelief while a guy with guns or a bow somehow so much more unrealistic. No they make as much sense as squirrel girl.Originally Posted by TheBruteSquad
I don't actually mind the change for earth 616. A normal guy running around killing people, with all the superpowers saying they're irked and that he should be brought in but never doing so, never made sense to me. It would take someone like Vision all of an hour to find him, beat him, and arrest him. He's not Batman.
Leave the Punisher character in the Max series. It's a better fit for him.
Like the punisher, batman does best when he's in his own book far away from any high powered supers. Bad @ss normals are really jarring in books with people who are on part with superman or silver surfer. They need stay in the shallow end of the pool. -
Quote:It was more to argue that every point made was applicable to that movie as well as the newer ones than to nerdrage over those details.(which I went on to say that pretty much happened with every new series.) Proving a point was all I was up to heh. I'm not going bother debating anything else about it besides that.Originally Posted by Veritech
you know, i can grok that you didnt like the '86 film. but really, we're going to pick on the fact they actually had known actors doing the voices and DIDNT use them for the cartoon series afterwards? at the time, there was no way the series would have had the budget to keep those folks on payroll.
also lets be honest, the series was ALWAYS about giant robots fighting it out. that they 'transformed' wasn't so much an integral story point as it was the selling point for the toys they were pushing. -
Yeah it was a tuesday. I was in bed and my friend who was in a courthouse downtown Chicago called me and told me something about terrorist bombing the trade center and he was evaced from the place he was at then. I was half awake and was like yeah whatever(as it was exactly what happened in the lone gunman and was in disbelief and tired.) and tried go back to sleep as it was about 10 am when he called me. I then got a call from my dad he told me a bit more accurate info and I got up and turned on the TV.
I went to work and the Sam's I worked at was a ghosttown. They were playing the news on all the TVs they had out. I really didn't want to be there that day. I worked in the meat department at the time and was cleaning up by myself thinking what heck was going on. I was alone pondering what to do for most the day. I told my sisters to get somewhere safe since I wasn't sure what was going happen next. (particularly my older sister who had her daughter and son on the way who lived closer to the city.)
I actually strongly considered reenlisting after what happened. I was in the Air force back in 1997. I ultimately decided against it as I felt I was needed at home to protect people here. That's where I was.