LadyJudgement

Glad you like it, sigh (good deed done) off to play!

Here's my 2 cents: Lazzarus hope you like it... it's fast, it's loose, but hey it's free!

Oh and mucho thanks for the vote of confidence Starchasm!

LJ

I just got painter today, so I'm feeling magnanimous... apologies to the others waiting, but this is my first time reading his request, and I have no other basis but to take it as sincere... gonna punch out something.

However tomorrow and all week, will be working on those I promised to do...

Hey Bayani, question for ya, I loved that team up... is there anyone else you'd like to be drawn with?

LJ

Oh forgot to mention I pm'd Cuppa this thread and my piece. She sent back this very gracious reply for all of us:

" Holy moly! That is awesome! *does the not-worthy bow*

Geez you guys - *sniff* yall are so sweet and the art is so good and *whaaaaa*

Thanks so much hun - really amazing! "

CJ

Is anyone going to her party on Test?

Try this for metal

Here's mine, I've only had 1 dealing with Cuppa, but she was most kind... sorry to see her go... oh and a warning, it's a really large file. Cuppa Jo

LJ

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Man that just makes me wanna make a pimp based toon just for the humorous binds you could end up with. Wonder if the next Mastermind set will be all female carnies.

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I know, that would be great!

Right now my 3 punks are Tricky, Switch & Baby Mack, and my 2 enforcers are Tiny & Bubba. When I get my bruiser, his name is gonna be Shaft.

I suppose I could make a Zombie Pimp... and name all the undead pets after my ex gf...

This toon goes out to Big Daddy Love & the Playas!

My level 25th Thug/Dark Mastermind - don't ask me how, I just realized one day going through the costume creator, that Pimping was in my blood... You can't see it from these pics, but in his first costume, he has the monster fur chest hair which the ladies all just love! Well not all the ladies, here he is sweating his contact... I lost the crown logo btw, I'm sticking strickly with the heart... oh yeah...

For his second toon, I was thinking more laid back, hot summer night kind of pimping, you know cuban style all white. Dig his mega tan, that's real baby, no spray on stuff...

LJ

Count me in, but got 2 total noob questions, um what AT is Cuppa, and what are her powers?

LJ

Vort I'm adding you to my que, that is too cool a face to pass up... You know I can't decide which I'm enjoying more of late, playing my new MM pimp villain, "Big Daddy Love", or drawing COX people!

LJ

Actually barring the find of the exact same shoe, that poster illustrates my point. The arch on Demi's front foot curves into the toes, the drawing has the arch kind of ballooning a bit outward. Might happen if she was wearing 4 pairs of socks, but I think we can say that's not gonna happen.

Can't wait to see this colored...

Sa-weet!

The cheek bones could also be suggested in color if you don't want them that prominent. You'd still retain that soft outer edge.

No you're right, the nose ridge is a bit much... as for the mouth, that was just me, cause I didn't understand the lines. But after looking at the body sketch, I can say this... loose that small line in between the inner side of the front leg, and the otuside of the arm.

While technically you might see it, and now I totally get the anime body type you are going for... it really makes the hips look thin. My case for loosing it, is that the figure will appear wider at the thips without it. Again that's up to you...

whoops forgot to mention, I added a nose ridge on one side, cheek bone lines, and made the eyebrows darker in tone.

LJ

Well this is what I came up with: Hex Girl suggestions

I took your original, copied it, and fixed the most obvious inconsistency, the other side of the hat. Since the face is from a frontal view, then the hat should be the same. I think the other side was more from a 3/4 view.

Second thing I touched up was the mouth. I wasn't sure of the lines you had on the inside of the mouth. And like my post says, these are just suggestions, to make you think, not for you to copy or redraw as... Anyway I redrew the mouth with the tongue showing, and the fangs more prominent. If you weren't even trying to draw fangs, then whoops, my bad, nevermind...

Next I took out that area above the foot and below the curve of the butt. Seemed like a nice curve getting lost, and as you can see it stand out more. Again wasn't sure what that section was, in color it might stand out more, but I don't think you need it.

Personally I have problems with 2 large areas, the width of her shoulders and the size of the front foot. Here's my case for changing it AND my case for leaving it.

First things first, this is a really tall person. Her forearms are about a hand and a half longer compared to her shoulders and biceps. However there are some lanky people out there, so maybe she is 6'7", whatever the case, I really like the lines you've put down here.

The shoulders are nice and soft, but a little small, making the head look huge, and the torso a little smaller also. These are negligible though because the piece has a very nice fluid style.

I don't think you're piece is like the Demi Moore shot, because she is hunched over more so as to cover her boobs, because let's face it they'd never release that in theaters if they showed.
Secondly her front leg is positioned differently because again they're going for maximum cover.

Now as to your legs, the back leg is longer than the front one. I know this because where the calve ends, both hands fit around the shin, instead of the arch of the foot. The front shin stops almost at the top of the shoe that makes the illusion there is more shin, but this is where you lost me.

That shoe is turned in 3 different directions. First let me say the style of it is great, it's perfect and you shouldn't loose that. But if we follow where the bone of the knee goes down to the ankle, and you can rub that on your own leg to see what I'm talking about. The shoe suddenly changes direction at the top, the perspective gives the illusion that it twists so we can see the top of the shoe.

But you wouldn't see that because the leg would have to be turned in the same way. Then next the lace holes do this curve, that the other shoe doesn't do by the way, so again, the arch is exaggerated nicely, but almost too much, because you ran out of shin, and now the foot appears enormous. Lastly, that leg is also slight skinnier than the back leg.

Now again, you don't have to change any of this, because the long slender body is pretty stylish, and that's hard to convey on a perfect proportioned body. This is the main reason that fashion illustrators draw so loosely and tall and thin. To give the illusion of those girls that well frankly need to eat something.

You could widen the shoulders, but it would change your dynamic. My overall suggestion is this, fix the hat, fix the mouth, loose that area by the butt, and actually elongate the shin just a touch.

And if I haven't conveyed this properly, it's a great piece.

Sketch

Sorry it's so small, just slapped it together trying to set a mood. Gonna sharpen it up this week, and hopefully will be done by friday...

LJ

Ack I don't want to rain on your parade squirrel... it was a good idea that's brought about a lot of good discussion. keep them coming as far as I'm concerned.

Just found this, it's decent basics - Drawing Superheroes

LJ

Be nice if we could get a sub forum, just for crits... then we'd know that it was okay to do whatever.

Most art websites have a seperate forum for professional crits, and a series of things to consider when giving the crit... ie talking about it's composition, perspective, line quality, color, etc.

Sometimes it's quite brutal, and most of the artists expect that, because they feel it's the only way to learn. I disagree with that, I think you can be reafirming (sp) and logical over straight to the point and crass, which is what I have seen as the norm.

A good crit is a thing of beauty, it not only helps the one artist but others as well. It's not a singular put down of what is wrong with the piece, that is obvious even to the artist. They know what they want to create, they just what points on how to get there.

My best friend growing up was the kind of artist I wasn't. When I looked at his drawings, they had endless patterns and detail I wanted in my own work. Years later he asked me for help on how to learn watercolors and painting. And we even collaborated on a few with his line work, and my color finish.

Point being that we had that nice trade off because we were together all the time. For a starting artist, it's not that easy to find a peer who can help you that way, outside of a formal teacher. It's one thing to get a crit from a gaming board, and a whole other thing to study traditionally.

You guys have a pretty supportive community here, a crit forum would make it that much better.

Btw since I'm so late, is there a link page on artists we like or websites in the industry? Here's an old one, but it was a breaking point for me... check this out:

Comic Color.com - click on the tutorials.

LJ

Well there's nothing wrong with it, if the policy is known to everyone. But what if someone new comes in, excited to show their piece not knowing, and comes back to find 4 posts of circle copies?

I personally would prefer a good description, rather then the circles. But that's just me.

On another art site I was on, it was frowned upon to draw over another person's work as part of a critique. It was thought of as "well draw more like me"...

I'm not saying it will go that far, just that among those that really want the help, there's no problem. But possibly to an outsider, it could be taken the wrong way.

I think that kind of thing should be asked for by the poster, a simple acronym or whatever... "OK4CRIT" or "OOO".

This is to just say that if I spend 2 hours out of my day drawing a piece and I post it thinking I'm about to make them happy. Only to comeback to the thread and see circles on how I can improve a piece I already think is finished... it could be a little annoying.

Understandable that everyone CAN and should improve, but do you really want to tell people they should redraw something until it passes some kind of group inspection?

I'm new to this forum, so I hope I'm not insulting anyone. My vote for myself is no, but if you guys decide this is the route to go, I'll follow the pack and crit the same way.

After all it's always up to the artist whether or not they will follow said advice. Okay hoping the DBS Server bug is over, ciao...

What if the artist doesn't want circles on their piece? But doesn't mind the critique?

Oh I can do better lol... I was just being lazy. Don't hate me because I'm lazy...

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The Nakoburu piece is amazing. Props my pinoy bretheren...

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I love it! Wow!! (and you got a blooper. You called her "Missy L")

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Oh Crap, I didn't even see that... , fixed! Thanks Static... yeah Mist, it's that left leg, definitely bent, and the right is a bit long... okay next time, me fixie...

Sweet! Love this...