LadyJudgement

an update...

the villainous Helena May, another in my long line of do one of my alts a favor and I draw you pieces...

LJ

couldn't help myself... hope you like it pare...

color detail

Bayani is on my list, but he'll have to wait until I finish these next 3:

1) the Graes
2) Fire Stingray
3) TA Doom

Perhaps if Spinomania was rampaging through the French countryside, that would make Graver happy?!

Yes, but you have to either fill rapidograph pens with it, or dip it like in olden times... It's monk's work if you ask me, the kind that comes with cold stone floors, and Gregorian Chanting!

I have some lying around here somewhere... I'll post it tomorrow.

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Your lineart always baffles and amazes me, Judgement. I'm assuming you're using Macromedia Flash for such smooth lines?

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Thanks, Illustrator is very forgiving, though I suppose you could use MFlash which I used about a month ago and enjoyed. In fact I was looking at some older pieces in my gallery from just last september, thinking crap my lines look like I'm going through morphine withdrawl...

I may have to redraw Radey Ayte just to be able to live with myself, but don't tell Starchasm that...

edit - the smooth lines are a new thing for me, as I didn't always use Illustrator for inking. Now I find just sketching in it with my wacom is like having a magic marker that never smudges.

When I sketch in Photoshop, I go for "mood" speed, and you can see the difference in the last few pieces. Illustrator has been my "vector" day job for the last few months, so it only makes sense that I'm using it more for my "off hours" work.

Here are two a non COH related pieces I just did:

1) Mermaid - a recolor of an older piece, but how I use to work in Illustrator.
2) Faerie - after creating my own brushes to simulate different thicknesses.

I still color primarily in Photoshop, but only because I'm too lazy to open Painter and stick to it. Digital painting takes a lot of patience imho.

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They even sent me a Christmas card.

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I just found out I could have gotten one, waaaauuuuugh....

- LJ ( former Sisterhood of the PK member)

Quickly climb into a time machine, and before you open your mouth again, apply several large wallops to your forehead with a hammer... that's what I do when I argue with my wife.

Btw, does your friend ink traditionally with a brush or croquill ink pen?

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But Lady, you can agree with me that I can surely decide whether I like or dislike an artist's piece, and that that art which some people may like, others may not? Or have I been misreading your earlier posts?

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Absolutely, I think your friend's point was she didn't want to have to be told what to like based on another person's taste of what is "acceptable".

Yes bad art exists, in droves... if we didn't have it, we wouldn't know what good art is, or the kind of art we choose to own, imitate, emulate, or "whoore" over... it isn't what makes good art good, only a means to say, "today I like that".

Take Graver's argument, obviously he has issues with the French, I don't know maybe he was chased by a pack of wild poodles through the wine country... But he doesn't care for that subject matter no matter the skill it took to make it.

That is personal taste.

We can argue over the intent of the artist involved, but it still boils down to making Graver eat his baguette and brie while the rest of us do the can can around him in mocking french accents!

Now would you subject your friend to that? Or expect her to do the same to you?

Now had your question been, what is bad art and how can I tell if it's bad. Here are two of three very obvious signs:

1) It's wrapped around a large piece of halibut.
2) It's sole purpose is to charge you the public a small fortune for the glory of viewing it in your lifetime.
3) Some quack in some rag said some very long words about it, and made me want to cry.

Retro Comic Art vs Modern CG Comic Art?

That's a tough sell, there's some great retro art and there's even more great modern art after all we learn from the past, though unfortunately we don't have a comic book museum ie hall of fame somewhere to bring grandkids to and say,

"Now that's art you rapscallion! You whipper snapper! You illegitimate love child of Captain Marvel!"

I love the silver/golden age of CA (comic art), and I love a lot of what I see today, it's like asking me which of my children I love more! Okay you forced me to answer, I like the one that's moved out and sends me cash...

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Judging another persons work as good or bad just because you do or don't like it personally is wrong. It's the main reason why judges of all types are supposed to be impartial .

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Agreed.

But I was judging on what I like, not what I considered merely artistic or skillful. I happen to love both surreal and abstract art, but not as much as I like realism and classical art and neither as much as comic book art.

Ack, these are apples and oranges.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ,nvm.

Subjectivity is personal, if we're basing on skills, subject falls by the way side, and Skill is the only basis of critique. Notice I didn't say personal taste... Personal taste is all about what turns you on, bla, bla, bla... Some like art to be shocking, or mind blowing, I think many of those people should be put to sleep.

There are those of us who find both those former adjectives in a simple comic book cover. That's what we like, it almost doesn't matter about the subject, but the "coolness" of it, the skill yes adds to it, but we require a low level playing field.

Some good anatomy, some cool coloring, a nice bold inking that pops off the page. These are not the terms "art critics" use, they're all concerned about how the piece makes us feel.

How do you feel when you look at the cover of Spiderman#1?

Ummm, I feel supercalifragilisticexpealidotious (sp)...

I don't feel like the paint is dripping.

Surrealism, abstract art, these are interpretations of subjectivity that have little to no recognizable features. Some say it's apples and oranges... again put these people to sleep.

I like what I like.

Last September, Lady Grae was kind enough to let me join the Sisterhood of the Paragonian Knights... unfortunately I quit the game abruptly and had to leave but I did promise her and Grae Knight a piece of art based on both of them.

This is my gift to them, and their tireless effort as co-leaders of one of the best community teams in the game.

I took the pose from an old movie still of Tyrone Power and Lynda Darnell, but once again sketching in Illustrator has been so much fun, that I guess this piece was "meant to be"...

Gonna color it tomorrow.

LJ

Niice inking... hmm I do recall I owe you a drawing, that is a color finish...

The perpsective in Seahawk in Flight is quite good, looking forward to the finish...

It being waaay past my bedtime and me stuck on the missuses pc, I am without wacom in hand, and so had to resort to the ole pencil and paper and badly scanned finish. But this will be the subject of my work tomorrow or today, as I promised Gwendolyn Snow a gift for Valentine's.

This isn't the finish, just a warm up to get use to the details in GK's armor. Anyways here it be:

Grae Knight

cool, my inner artwhore is happily satisfied!

Congrats! Every time I read the title of this thread, I picture Mardun delivering a baby surrounded in roaring flames! Okay, not gonna draw that one...

your wish is my command... or my doodling... check out the other thread I made...

LJ

What can I say, I was procrastinating tonight in between the two pieces I'm already working on (well mentally) and this piece just flowed out... I'm in the zone!

Larissa

Unfortunately the coloring might have to wait for a month... hope you like it.

LJ

Thank you so much for your praise Larissa... I enjoyed your DA gallery also, in fact I may have to add something to it soon.

Here's an update... Fire Stingray linework

I took Thornster's advice and moved the scabbard behind the legs, and did a closer look at some of my screenshots to correct the shoulder guard. This is gonna be a ------ to color...

Wow, I miss your work... every new piece is your best piece!

fixed the size for you to download El, enjoy!